Aug. 30, 2026

Alec Baldwin says Trump isn't funnier anymore

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac recaps comedy news, highlighting a Atlantic piece on Trump satire fatigue: Alec Baldwin says Trump is no longer funny, while Anthony Atamanuik describes The President Show as issue-focused despite Trump being an “albatross,” and the article notes the left-leaning satire boom faded, with Sarah Cooper’s pandemic-era rise and later Trump portrayals by James Austin Johnson and Shane Gillis. Mac also cites Atsuko Akatsuka’s Guardian interview (a dog-walking Yelp complaint, advice about jealousy from a friend, and hotel habits), David Spade on jealousy and improv trust, and a Ronnie Chieng–Josh Johnson Interview Magazine chat about career ruts and releasing long-form stand-up. Other items: BBC renews Diane Morgan’s sci-fi comedy Android, Cam Patterson joins film Love, Love, Billboard’s top July comedy concerts, LA Times booker picks, Matt Matthews’ pronouns controversy, and Dan Tiernan’s Fringe review.

00:17 Trump Satire Fatigue
01:39 Sarah Cooper Era
02:30 SNL Impressions Then Now
02:54 Vaughn Meader Example
03:53 Atsuko Interview Bits
04:26 Chelsea Handler Ad Rant
05:30 Spade On Jealousy
05:58 Chieng Johnson Career Rut
08:40 Android Renewed
09:11 Kam Patterson Casting
09:45 Top Comedy Concerts
10:56 LA Bookers Picks
12:37 Matthews Pronouns Blowup
13:31 Fringe Review Tiernan

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We are running out of August, friends. Hi, I'm Johnny

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Mac Poolside, as much as I can. With your daily

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comedy news, The Atlantic tells us that Trump comedians are tired.

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A writer over at The Atlantic caught up with Alec Baldwin.

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You may recall he portrayed the President of the United

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States on Saturday Night Live for a little bit. Earlier

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this summer, Alec Baldwin said, None of it is funny.

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I don't find it funny anymore. There's nothing left to

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say about Trump. Anthony Atamnewick, who does a pretty good Trump,

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he's got a fantastic album, The Trump vs. Bernie Debates.

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It's probably about 10 years old now. That was a

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fantastic album, one of my favorite things that I would

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play on the show over on Live One, where I

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host the weekly comedy thing. Look at me remembering to

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promote it on a Sunday. That's right. Let me just

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go there real quick while we're doing this. So I

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host a show. It's kind of like this, except I

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talk less, but I can actually play the bits. So

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if there's a comedian in the news, I tell you

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about the story, and then I play a bit by

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the comedian. It is called the Weekly Comedy Thing. The

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app is called Live One. Both are free. Check it out.

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Anthony Attenewick in 2017 hosted a show on Comedy Central

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called The President's Show that I thought was pretty good.

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He told The Atlantic, I wanted my show to continue

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mostly because I saw each episode as an essay on

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an issue in American life, and the albatross I had

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was Trump. The Atlantic says Anthony's hope was that for

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a liberal audience still reeling from the shock of the election,

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skewering the president could be a way to crystallize what

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had happened to the country. The Atlantic pointed out the

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initial burst of left-leaning satire didn't last. There were shows

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like Michelle Wolfe, Larry Wilmore, Hasan Minhaj, Wyatt Sinek. And

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they reminded me of this one. If you're a longtime listener,

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you know this one drove me nuts. By 2020, the

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most visible Trump satirist was the comedian Sarah Cooper. Do

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you remember Sarah Cooper? Now, during the pandemic, People were

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fawning over Sarah Cooper like she was like the next

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George Carlin. What she was doing was she was taking

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audio of the actual president and pantomiming his voice and

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making ridiculous faces. And this went great on TikTok because

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we were all stuck at home. But oh my goodness,

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like to act like she was one of the comedy

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greats was insane. Somehow she got to guest host Jimmy

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Kimmel Live. Are you kidding me? And got a Netflix

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special directed by Natasha Lyonne. Go look up Sarah Cooper.

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It's six years later now. Like, what? No. That was insane.

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I'm getting mad that people were actually like, oh, she's fantastic.

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She was pantomiming. Stop. The Atlantic reminds us James Austin

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Johnson and Shane Gillis have both played the president with

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some success in recent years. Johnson's impression hasn't created the

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kind of splash that Baldwin's once did. His version of

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Trump is reminiscent of the de rigueur presidential impressions of

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SNL seasons past. Brett Terhune talked about the character he

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plays on videos, that character's alpha male. A sort of

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disgruntled mega-vlogger, a reaction and a reflection of people that

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are Trump diehards, says Terhune. And then this article goes

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to talk about Vaughn Mader. Do you know Vaughn Mader?

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He's the guy that did the Kennedy impression. The best

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description I ever heard of Vaughn Mader is, when you

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think of what John F. Kennedy sounds like, the voice

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that you have in your head right now, that's actually

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not what Kennedy sounds like. That's what Vaughn Mader sounds like. Here,

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let me pull two clips. Here's Vaughn Mader. The flowered hat. Yes.

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Not you, sir. The lady in the back of you. Yes, yes.

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We recently heard that you sent an agent into Cuba.

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Didn't you return with any information? Well, I didn't send

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him for information. I sent him for sugar. And here's

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President Kennedy. There are many people in the world who

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really don't understand or say they don't. What is the

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great issue between the free world and the communist world?

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Let them come to Berlin. Otsko at Costco told The Guardian,

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I think people think I'm more wholesome than I am.

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I love that description. They asked her, what's the strangest

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job you ever had? Otsko said, I used to walk

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donks in L.A. And there's a bad Yelp review about

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me saying that I only walked Charlie the Terrier mix

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for 10 minutes. instead of the full 30. And I

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did do that, but it was a rainy day and

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the dog didn't want to keep walking and it was shaking.

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So I brought it back to the house, but it

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turns out the owner of the dog had a friend

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spying on me and timing me from the moment I

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let the dog out and back in. I guess it's

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not a weird job, but it's a memorable one. What's

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the best thing you learned from someone you work with?

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Chelsea Handler is a good friend of mine. Time out,

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time out, time out. I've been meaning to mention this

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for a week and a half. So as we all

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listen to the show, including me, we get different commercials.

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Like some of the commercials are regional, like I'm in

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New Jersey, so I'll get a lot of things that

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are New Jersey related. Your experience may vary. So, like,

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a week ago, I'm listening, and there's just this woman,

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and her voice is just grating on me. I'm like,

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what is this commercial? I can't stand this. It was

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Chelsea Handler. Chelsea Handler is a good friend of Osco

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at Costco's, though. Osco says, the tip was about jealousy.

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Just keep in mind that there's room for everyone. You

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may go, I want a first place like that person,

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but you have a role in life in whatever field

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you're in, so never compare yourself to others. We're all

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made so different. Here's a random question. Oscar, when you

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get to a hotel, what's the first thing you do?

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She said, every time. I'm generally so stoked that I'm

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not in my own house. Thank goodness I'm away from

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my dishes. I'm away from my dirty underwear. I only

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have clean ones because that's all I brought. Nice answer,

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but it didn't tell us what's the first thing she does.

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What is the first thing you do in your hotel room?

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I throw my bags on the bed, and usually I

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kick my shoes off because I've learned from traveling a

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lot that it's good to give your feet a break

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while in the room, and then I usually have to

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check 4,000 work e-mails. David Spade said he used to

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tell his fellow SNL stars he was jealous of them

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if they got more airtime than he did. I think

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that's true of a lot of the SNLers. Spade confessed,

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I tell Sandler. That was funny. I'm so jealous because

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that's at least acknowledging something was good or makes you

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better to go, OK. Spade said it's the biggest compliment

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whenever talented comedians know that they're safe to riff and

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improv with you. He explains that's an accomplishment right there,

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which you don't really think too much. But that's what

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other people think. They're like, if those guys know what

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they're doing. Ronnie Chang and Josh Johnson kind of riffed

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for Interview Magazine. Let's pick away at this. Josh said,

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when I first started, I would take advice from anybody

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because I was bombing. You know what I mean? So

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I was like, anybody might have a good idea. I

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find that even when someone's advice is completely off base,

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it's a reminder of what you don't want to do.

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Ronnie Chang said, I feel like I can do without that,

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but you're more positive than me. I come in from

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almost exclusive humility. Like, no, please don't praise me. I'm

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a nobody. But unfortunately, excessive humility can actually come out

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as arrogance because people think you don't want to talk

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to them because you think they're better than them. Chang said,

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you're always smooth and good with people. You're very charismatic.

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Josh Johnson said, smooth is a very nice way to

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put it. I definitely walk away from most conversations being like, oh,

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I botched that one. This is interesting. Chang said, I

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first met you, Josh Johnson, at The Daily Show, and

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you were a very talented writer and stand-up comic. You

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always contributed in the writing room, always had great ideas,

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great tags, very professional, very friendly, positive. There was a

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period when you were blowing up and there was a

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lot of momentum. Then I remember just before the pandemic,

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it felt like the momentum was kind of flattening or

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even going down a little bit. I think you fired

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your reps, your reps fired you, and you're going through

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this creative rut or rediscovery. I feel like you came

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out the other end of that guns blazing. Is that

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a fair description? Josh said it's completely fair. Ronnie, what

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do you think caused it? Josh, I think the rut

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came from not being very certain about what I wanted

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to create next. Sometimes that stuck feeling isn't just about

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being stuck. It's literally about being able to move in

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whatever direction you want. Having that much freedom to do

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the next thing is what makes you feel stuck. Once

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I made the decision to apply myself a bit more,

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that's when everything really opened up in my mind, which

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helped me to do more and help people to notice

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me more. I got to a point where I was

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pretty good, and now pretty good can either be met

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with people noticing or could be met with, well, you

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could be better and people won't notice you until you're better.

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Ronnie said, when you started coming out of your rut,

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I didn't want to be condescending, but I was trying

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to give you a little bit of advice on how

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to move into theaters. I feel like when you move

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into a theater, you gain control of your schedule, you

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get a little bit more money. I encourage all comics

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to try to do it, which is easier said than done.

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But your way of doing it was you started releasing

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long-form stand-up content regularly at a time when it was

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the opposite of what you're supposed to do. Even now,

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it's flood the zone with short-form clips until something hooks.

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What made you do that? Josh said, I had always

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actually written a lot. Like, a lot, a lot. Even

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when I started in Chicago, I was doing open mics.

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I rarely did the same five minutes, which I think

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is a different way of getting good. Obviously, if you

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have your five, you can tighten your five. And then

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that teaches you how to put your joke through the grinder.

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But my version of getting better, this is fascinating, isn't it?

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This is really good. I think I know what did

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and didn't work from that thing, and I have some

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other things in my mind. Some of it was just

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being scatterbrained. The other thing is when you don't know

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what you want, you end up wanting what you see

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other people have, because those are the only things available

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in your mind. So it's like, what if I had

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the best catalog? What if I had 100 funny hours?

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Here's my thing. I would never tell anyone that what

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I'm doing is what you need to do. Let's say

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we're being hardcore capitalists for a second. You're now in

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the market giving away a lot for free, and who

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knows what you're going to get back versus the model

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we're all used to, which is hone this thing, make

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it as funny as you can, and then get paid

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for it. The BBC has renewed sci-fi comedy Android for

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a second season. The show was written by, created by,

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and stars Diane Morgan, who some podcasters have a crush on.

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It is a fun show. Season one followed the relationship

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between a woman and her elder care robot, played by

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Diane Morgan, in a press release. Diane Morgan said, The

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response to Android has been so incredible. We're totally blown away.

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I'm really looking forward to not blinking, needing physio, and

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hearing Cotton Eye Joe on repeat. Now, I'm not surprised

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that was renewed. I am surprised that I'm here to

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tell you Cam Patterson got a role in another movie. What?

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What are people seeing that I'm not seeing? I get

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the Kill Tony version of Cam Patterson. I don't get

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the SNL version, and I don't get the movie version.

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He has joined the cast of Love, Love, about a

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struggling tennis phenom who falls for a ball boy at

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the U.S. Open. It is currently in production, so they're

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probably filming it during this year's U.S. Open. And it

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is Cam Patterson's second film role for some reason. He

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was also in 72 Hours, which that was that Kevin

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Hart movie that starred Marcelo Hernandez, who does one thing well.

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Billboard put out the top comedy concerts for July. Number five,

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Maximini grossed $ 1. 9 million across 22,000 tickets, 11 shows. Matt

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Rife in fourth. He did 10 shows, sold 50,100 tickets

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and grossed $ 4. 7 million. Weird Al, not including that free

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show in Montreal, tickets $ 114, 000, 20 shows, grossed $ 7. 7 million.

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Al secretly loaded. He comes across as normal Al. He's loaded.

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Number two is controversial MAGA comedian Nate Bregazzi. He's normally

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number one. You can see the damage his career is

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taking on. He did nine shows, only sold 101,000 tickets,

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and only grossed $ 8. 3 million. Winning the month, Dude Perfect.

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They did 16 shows, 135,000 tickets. They grossed $ 8. 5 million. Well,

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we're not going to get into that Hannah Burner story

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yet again. It's not even a bit. I mean, check

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the clock. You know, if you listen every day, I

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try to keep the show a certain length. Thursday was

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kind of long. Friday was a little long. There's a

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certain length to the show. We'll get to it. I mean,

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Labor Day weekend's coming in that first week of September.

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Often I'm scrambling for stuff. So if I have a

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Hannah Burner story in my back pocket, it's okay. I

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do want to start chipping away at this. The LA

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Times had an article, 15 comedians that the bookers say

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you should know. Maybe we'll do five or so a day.

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Their premise, to help you figure out which comics in L.A.

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you want to keep an eye on, we've tapped the

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expertise of some of the city's most seasoned bookers. All right,

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first up, Takara Williams. The L.A. Times calls one of

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the most genuinely likable comedians out right now. Every woman

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wants to hang out and have brunch with her, and

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every man wants to date her. Even the younger generation

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of girls love her hilarious impressions of her teenage daughter.

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She makes her family come alive in her jokes and

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reminds us that we're all living the same life, dealing

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with kids, dating, and everyday struggles. Next up, Ron G.,

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one of the greatest entertainers in the world, says the

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LA Times. If you've seen him host Chocolate Sundays, you

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know exactly what I mean. He can get a 22-year-old

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black dude from Compton to rock out, and he can

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get an 80-year-old grandma to twerk on stage. Steve Fury

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is an ex-door guy at the comedy store and now

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a paid regular. We were told he's an incredible writer,

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very consistent, very polished, hilarious. Got pretty far on Netflix's

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Funny AF. Oh, yeah, that guy. Willie Simon is another

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ex-door guy and another paid regular at the store. Originally

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from Hawaii, he flew through the door program and got

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passed as a regular a few years ago. The guys

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over at the store said, I'd consider him a prodigy.

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So funny, goofy, but no corn. He also has great

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writing skills, part of a fun online sketch group, Almost Friday,

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and does a podcast with Steve Furrier. We'll check that out.

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And Joe Maurice was the captain of the door guys

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at the store. So apparently you got to be a

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door guy at the store who recently became a paid regular.

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He's unique and it's such a fun style of comedy

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from Chicago. And this booker said that he's obsessed with

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the video clip series Joe Eats Online. He's one of

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those guys that everyone will have an impression of by

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the end of his performance. OK, that's good. This from them.us.

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Comedian Matt Matthews has had it with the pronouns. So

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as I understand things, Matt was on a podcast with

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Real Housewives of Atlanta star Candy Burris, who was curious

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about Matt's partner Rob and assigned Rob the pronoun them.

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Burris asked about you and your boo. When did you

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meet them? Matthews said, them? I only got one. Burris responded, well,

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you know, these days I got to know the pronouns

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before I start talking. Matthews said, quote, we ain't got

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no damn pronouns. I got a tallywhacker. That's a he.

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We don't do all that stuff. I ain't doing all

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that they them. Then he used some swear words. Then

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he put a bunch of letters together. The transcript reads L-G-Q-I-L-M-N-O-P-W-W-F.

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Shut the F up. You're a boy. You're a girl.

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You got a thing. Cleaning that up a little. You're

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a girl. And he said, I'm going to tick people

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off with that. Saw a lot of buzz on that

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online during the week. Fringe is wrapping up. Dan Tiernan's

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show got three out of five from The Guardian. Dan's

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show Quartz and All, a furious comedy show about healing crystals.

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We were told you have to strap in for the ride,

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and Quartz and all is no less so than its predecessors.

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It opens with Tiernan seething with his usual self-loathing and

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cracking a fantastical gag about getting glasses. Now 30, he's

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still ambivalent, bordering on hostile about his sexuality and appearance.

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The healing crystals are a last resort, he argues, because

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only magic can redeem a man as freakish and unlovable

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as he. From a comic who, when good is very good,

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there's an excellent joke and a callback. They spoil it.

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I'm doing take two here. I don't want to spoil

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the joke. Okay, that's a good callback. You don't have

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to spoil it. At such moments, Tiernan feels like a

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comic worth choosing to believe in. And that is your

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comedy news on a Sunday. All right, not much August left.

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Enjoy the weekend. See you tomorrow.