March 7, 2025

Bill Burr's Evolving Public Persona

Bill Burr's Evolving Public Persona

Johnny Mac discusses the angst-filled nature of the day's stories, which delve into political and social issues. Key highlights include an interview with Andrew Schulz about his new comedy special and personal storytelling, Chris DiStefano's...

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Johnny Mac discusses the angst-filled nature of the day's stories, which delve into political and social issues. Key highlights include an interview with Andrew Schulz about his new comedy special and personal storytelling, Chris DiStefano's reflections on American pride, and a thought-provoking discussion on Bill Burr's evolving public persona. Also covered are Michael Rappaport's clash with a Canadian politician, a controversial comedy club incident involving anti-Semitic remarks, and lighter segments about Joe Koy, the SNL ratings, and upcoming comedy events at South by Southwest. Emphasizing the dynamic day's contrast, Johnny ensures a lighter, funnier episode for Saturday.

01:17 Andrew Schutz on Comedy and Personal Stories
02:49 Chris DiStefano on American Pride and Politics
04:47 Bill Burr's Evolution and Media Perception
08:06 Patrice O'Neill Comedy Benefit and Tracy Morgan's New Show
09:43 Michael Rappaport Controversy and Comedy Club Incident
15:15 Gossip Corner and Joe Koy's Filipino Food Faux Pas
17:45 South by Southwest Comedy Highlights

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Hi, I'm Johnny Mack, host of Daily Comedy News. This

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is the Friday episode. I just wanted to talk to

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you guys before we get into the episode. As I

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put the show together, and you'll hear me say this

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during the recording. As I put the show together, I

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was like, ooh, all these stories are really angsty. I

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hope this episode doesn't annoy people. I hope this episode

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doesn't turn people off. It gets into politics, it gets

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into some social issues, and as I explained in the episode,

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I just put the stories together and I go, Okay,

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what's going on today? And you know, sometimes I'll be like, oh,

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that can wait till tomorrow, and you know, this could

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go next week. The show's getting long. Let me bump that.

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You hear me do that all the time live. But

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as I put the show together say it's like, oh,

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this is going to be very angsty. And I hope

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you know, nobody who listens to the show every day

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goes away going ah, the show is getting really political.

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So I actually recorded Friday and Saturday back to back.

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Is today's show angsty? Yeah? It is, is tomorrow's show angsty?

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Not at all went out of my way to make

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tomorrow just fun and light and silly. Today a little serious.

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So this is my little preamble. If you don't enjoy

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today's podcast, I get it. But you know I'm here

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every day. So you know, if you don't like today's hit,

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stop and come back tomorrow and you like tomorrow's episode, Okay,

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let's hit it. Callaroga Shark Media. Hey man, what's up.

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I'm Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news. More from

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Andrew Schultz. In an interview with The l eight Times,

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they were curious how Andrew feels a special like life

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raises the bar for Andrew's comedy. Great question, Andrew said,

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I don't know. I'm always just trying to do something different.

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I think that's the exciting thing for me. Before this special,

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I was never personal in my comedy at all. Like

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I didn't think my life was interesting. And then when

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it was tough for us to get pregnant, I think

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the only thing I could think of. I just couldn't

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think of anything else and nothing really mattered. And then

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talking about this got really exciting. On stage. I was like,

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maybe I could tell stories. I never really told stories

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on stage. I was like, what if I could make

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this whole story, and then I didn't want to tell

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anybody it was a story because I didn't want there

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to be one man's show expectations, and I wanted them

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to come in thinking like this is hard hitting stand

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up for an hour and have that expectation, but also

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see if I could have a story layered onto it.

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Spoiler part of the special, Andrew jokes about collecting a sample,

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if you know what I mean. The only times was

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curious as you were collecting a sample, did you think

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there could be a joke there? Andrews said, Yeah. Sometimes

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you're in a moment you're like, oh, this is kind

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of funny. And then sometimes you're just talking about it

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on stage, like you're really frustrated by something, you're embarrassed

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by something, and you feel very vulnerable, so you're like, Okay,

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let me share this and then maybe I'll find something

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funny in it. And then there's other parts where you're

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just so miserable in the moments you can't even think

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about comedy just yet. So I think it was both

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for sure, new topic. Hey, Andrew, what made you decide

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facial hair was part of your look? Andrew said, not

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all of us can grow a beautiful thick beard. Okay,

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some of us, this is all we got mustache. I'm

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no clue. I think this is all I got. To

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be fair, Andrew warns us, though you can't go too short.

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That's a big no no. Be prepared for a lot

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of rough looks from people. Chris de Steffan a hotel

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Fox News Digital he hasn't seen American pride on such

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a large scale since the aftermath of nine to eleven. Chris,

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and I think our country honestly now, personally, I know

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that it's very divided. But I think that and it

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might be because of exhaustion if you think the other way.

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I do think we're going to make a concentrated effort

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to try to come together a little bit more. Chris said,

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I mean, you look at this Trump presidency, the very

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early stages of it versus the last Trump presidency. I mean,

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people were trying as much as they could to get

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anything they could on him, to remove him. People screaming

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in the streets, so mad the first three months of

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his presidency. But just like, yeah, there's issues, people trying,

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but there's no like major upheaval because I think people

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are like, all right, so exhausting, can do it the

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other way, So why don't we just try. I feel

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like we're unifying more as a nation. There's more American

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pride or a country than I remember. I haven't felt

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American pride like this since, honestly, like nine to eleven,

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like after that, like right after that, there was so

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much American pride. Everyone came together, and now I feel

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it again, which I think is good, Chris said. I

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understand America's just lines on a map like every other country,

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where there's something about having pride as a nation that's

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just better for everyone. It's better for us. I'm not

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saying America is the only be all end all. I'm

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saying it's good to have pride and where you're from.

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Is when I go to other countries, they have pride

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and where they're from, and you see their flags flying

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and they're proud of something, and that doesn't mean, hey,

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you know, we're number one in Mexico. It's like, be prideful,

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be proud to be Mexican, be price to be American,

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and we can work together. Chris continued. For me, comedians,

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I think we like to call it as it is,

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and perception is reality. I'm in the middle. I'm Chrissy Grayzone.

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I think even Trump's efforts like who knows if the

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executive orders will pass, who knows if we'll buy Greenland

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or Candadates is gonna be the fifty first state? Who

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knows right, could just be wild things he's saying. But

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I do think what it's doing is trying to reassert

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in an American dominance, which again is just good for

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our pride as a nation. The combination of stories today

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has me a little worried that some of you are

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gonna go away and be like this show has gotten

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really political. I just do whatever comes out, and that

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there's a couple of stories coming down in the first

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half here that are also political ish. It's just the

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zeitgeist today, So let me just do a palate cleanser here.

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We'll do something else. But again, I don't wake up

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and be like, I'm gonna put out a political message today.

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It's not what the show is anyway. Friend of the show,

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Jason Zinneman talk to Bill Burr. Jason writes in The Times,

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I begin to tell bur there was something he often

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talks about that resonates with me. When he cut me

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off Bill went horse ores, He respondedly, back in chuckling

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in a gray hoodie and jeans. That sentence almost sounds

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like Norm MacDonald. Right, hores, he responded, leading back in

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chuckling at a gray hoodie and jeans. Now, I responded,

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I'm not talking about hores, fully appreciating how funny it

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sounds for a New York Times journalists to say this

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in an interview. Yes, Jason's in him been writing. No,

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I'm not talking about whores. Is funny, Jason writes, So,

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I wanted to talk about male anger, a long time

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theme of Burr's stand up. I won't drop into a

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half assed bur impression because I want to catch Jason's

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words Here. He's quoting Burr, who said, let me ask

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you this, he said, flashing an intense stare. You've been

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with me for an hour. Do I seem like an

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angry person? Jason writes, I pause. He did appear a

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little annoyed when I picked a fight with him about

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a bit he does about women's sports. Burr is not

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the only one who likes messing with people, but alone

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in conversation, Burr seems like the same guy he is

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in front of a crowd, only more cerebral than my

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old mannerd Burs said, there's a lot of truth in

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the guy you see on stage where you just looking

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at me for one side, Jason writes, the side I

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see here is a guy with anger issues who learned

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how to control them. Yeah, there's some sort of uh.

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I almost suspect it's a pr campaign. You're in. Burr's

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got a special out a week from today. You're gonna

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see a lot of Burr has grown up and changed

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his ways and learned how to become a better man.

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That seems to be the messaging on the mainstreaming of

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Bill Burr that he became a better man, which is fun.

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We should all become better people than we were yesterday.

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I strive to do that, probably like you, there are

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things in my past that I'm not too proud of.

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I don't have a time machine. All I could do

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is be better today than yesterday. So I'm not saying

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Burr's a jerking face for being a better guy, but

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there does seem to be some sort of campaign around

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that messaging is what I'm picking up. Burst said, I

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want to lose my edge. I don't want to go

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through life angry. And here's the thing. If you have

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an edge, you never lose it. I can tap into

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that whenever I need it. You bark at the other

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dog and make it go away. I know how to

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do that, Jason writes. When I tell him the right

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wing media figure Ben Shapiro said Bill Burr was going woke,

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Burr shot back. All he knew is if you put

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Woke on what I said, he'd make more money. I

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don't know who he is, but that guy is a

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hmm a self enjoying dure. I teach this to my students.

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I could just read the phrase there. I mean, the

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phrase made the New York Times, so it's not the

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dirtiest phrase in the world. But sometimes trying to keep

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it clean makes it a little funnier. And that's one

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of the reasons I do the kind of things I

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do where I won't say a phrase that made the

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New York Times in print. Anyway. Bill Burr's special Drop

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Dead Years premieres on Hulu March fourteenth. Now my question

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for Hulu is if I hit play, am I going

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to see the entire special? Or with like thirteen minutes

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to go, is the automation going to cut off the

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special and I just don't get to see the closer.

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I mean, this is a fair question, Hulu. Perhaps your

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publicists could get back to me and I'll ask them. Oh,

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this paired up nicely, and I didn't do this on purpose.

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Remember when Jason Zinnemann wrote, Burr's not the only one

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who likes messing with people, someone who liked to mess

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with people. But Tresea O'Neil. I've spoken about this in

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the past. I did not enjoy the man's company. His

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whole thing was messing with you, and great, dude, I'm

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here to just be a professional broadcaster and knock out

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this segment that we're going to do today. I don't

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need to mess with may just be a professional. Didn't

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like Patrese O'Neil. Sorry he passed away. I understand the

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New York City comedians revere him. Didn't like the man.

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The twelfth annual Patrise o'nil Comedy Benefit Concert is a

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night of stand up comedy to honor the memory of

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Patrise O'Neil. This year, performances by Rosebud Baker Greer bourns

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I'm seeing a lot of buzz on Greer all of

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a Sudden DC, Benny Bilberr, Tim Dillon, to misch Ptel,

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Sean Patten, and Rich Voss. It's at the New York

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City Center. All tickets seventy five dollars including fees. May eighteenth,

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Doors open at seven. Performance at allegedly seven point thirty.

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Nice nice line up there. Tracy Morgan coming back to

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NBC and teaming up with Tina Fay in untitled comedy.

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Tracy Morgan plays a disgraced football player on a mission

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to rehabilitate his image. Tina Fey is the executive producer

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on the sitcom. It'll be written by thirty Rock colums

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Robert Carlock and Sean Means. So that is telling me

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NBC wants to be in the Tina Fay business. Very interesting,

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Lauren Michaels Snel, You see where I'm going there. They

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want to be in the Tina Fey business. I mean,

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it's a good business to be in, but just interesting

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because I'm not sure. In the twenty twenty five twenty

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twenty six media landscape, b a Tracy Morgan NBC sitcom

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is you know what the world is into these days?

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Nothing against Tracy Morgan, It's just NBC sitcom doesn't mean

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what it meant in the nineties, That's all I'm saying there.

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Tracy will also star in Paramount Plus is upcoming comedy

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The Crutch, which is a spinoff from The Neighborhood. Tracy

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plays Francois Frank Crutchfield aka Crutch, a Harlem widower whose

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empty nest plans are put on hold after his millennial

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son and free spirited daughter moved back home. It's expected

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to premiere it later this year. All Right, some of

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the angsty stuff that had me nervous as I put

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the show together. Michael Rappaport's in the news now. Anytime

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I mentioned Michael Rappaport, and I've brought this up in

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the past, it's always like an angsty, angry controversy. It's

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never like Michael Rappaport went to the children's hospital, he

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gave out teddy bears. The nurses said he was the

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nicest man we ever met. It's never that. It's always

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something like this from The Daily Wire, Michael rapp Report

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slammed a leftist Canadian politician for encouraging lawmakers to ban

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him from doing stand up comedy shows in Canada. Rap

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Report made his opinions known and a column he wrote

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for The Free Press, Canada's new Democrat Party member, Heather

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McPherson had referenced rap Reports significant criminal history. I'm not

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familiar with that at all. Is that a thing? I'm

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not familiar with that at all. If you asked me,

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is Michael Rapp Report a criminal? I would say absolutely not.

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But maybe I'm wrong. I googled the phrase Michael Rapp

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Report criminal. I don't see anything. Maybe I'm forgetting something.

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I'm gonna type in Michael Rapp Report crime, Google tells me.

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On May eighteenth, nineteen ninety seven, a rap Report was

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arrested for harassing ex girlfriend Lily Taylor and charged with

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two counts of aggravated harassment. A page six article that says,

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years before Michael Rapp Report's court battle with bart Tool Sports,

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the actor once pleaded guilty to arresting ex girlfriend Lily Taylor. Okay.

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New Democrat Party member Heather McPherson referenced to Rappaport's significant

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criminal history, history of Islamic phobic speech and tendencies towards

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inciting violence as reasons for her proposed ban of Michael

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Rappaport She adds, we're witnessing an alarming increase in Islamophobia

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in Canada and globally. All Canadians deserved to feel safe

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in our communities. New Democrats are calling on the Liberal

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government to deny entry to Michael Rappaport. She concluded by

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saying hate has no place in Canada. Rapaport responded, writing,

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I have no criminal history other than calling my ex

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girlfriend Lily Taylor too many times in nineteen ninety seven.

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I'm not ashamed I was in love. I have no

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outstanding warrants. I don't have any parking tickets. As far

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as Racislamophobia, my only phobia currently is of a radical Jihattis.

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I'll admit I have a phobia of anybody wants to

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kill hert or dehumanized Jews. The irony here is that McPherson,

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in her post asserted that hate has no place in Canada, except,

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of course, when hate is directed towards Jews, which Canada

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apparently has no problem with. He linked that to a

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report which found quote six hundred and seventy percent increase

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in anti Semitic incidents in Canada since October seventh, twenty

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twenty three. Report wrote some more things and then finished

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with if you're reading this other a front row seats

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reserved for you in the New Democrats. That's a genuine offer.

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Another angsty one, this from AM New York. CJ is

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from Brooklyn and was having a wonderful day in Brooklyn.

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AM New York tells us she and her husband went

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to an exciting fundraiser at her son's school before deciding

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to finish off a fun day at a local comedy club. Right,

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they definitely want us to know. The day was wonderful

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and it was a fun day, AM New York. Right,

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she had no idea she'd end the night in tears

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after comedian on stage performed a set of jokes culminating

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with one personal attack. I wasn't there, so I'm just

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going to admit the comedian's name. It is not a

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famous comedian, CJ told AM New York. Most of the

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comedians were fantastic, at least until a comedian Question took

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the stage after ten pm and included a routine that

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focused on Jewish people and the Israeli Hamas war in

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the Middle East. CJ explains he starts with how Jews

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must find free Palestine, really confusing becase we love free stuff.

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Then he said, I don't know about you, but a

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Palestinian has never kept my security deposit. From a comedy standpoint,

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as a Roman Catholic recording a podcast in a basement,

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I don't know what faith this comedian is. I don't

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know what background this comedian is. But it's not like

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I haven't heard that sort of joke before, and I

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don't know the nuance of the joke. So the quote

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from the person who went to the show was must

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find free Palestine really confusing because we love free stuff.

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CJ identifies as Jewish, So is the we there the

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way the joke was told. So is this a Jewish

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comedian going because we love free stuff? Or is CJ

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self identifying and was the joke because they love free stuff?

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That I don't know that would add some nuance to

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this story. CJ and their husband said they didn't find

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the jokes funny, but understood that it was comedy, and

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hope did move on to something else. Okay, But then

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apparently the comedian brought up the subject of slavery among

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Jews in history. I don't have any information about what

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that part of the set was about and what the

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materials sounded like. CJ explains, at this point, I was

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getting visibly upset, almost crying at this point. It's very sensitive.

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I've dealt with a lot of anti Semitism over the

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last five hundred and eight or so days. CJ claims.

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The comedian then said something, quoting the article here along

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the lines of and then quoting along the lines of

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what the comedian said, something like wanting to go kill

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somewhere babies, this article says. The audience laughed. CJ then

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broke down in tears and left the club. Edward Ferrell

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is a spokesperson for the Williamsburg Comedy Club, told AM

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New York that the venue believes in free speech, especially

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on a comedy club stage, and will not be taking

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any action against the comedian. Williamsburg Comedy Club is a

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place for comics to take chances. Unfortunately, people occasionally get offended.

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That's out of our control. I hear jokes about many issues,

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topics and groups in the club that I don't always

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agree with or laugh at. I will not censor any

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of the comics who were lucky enough to have on

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our stage. A comedian made a joke and I stand

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by his right to do so. CJ said, I would

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love an apology from the club. They want to refund

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our ticket prices, That's great, but whatever. What I'd really

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and not support this comedian, and to warn other Jewish

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people that if you see this guy's name on a

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comedy lineup, don't go. The comedian is scheduled to do

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some more appearances, heavy one today. All right, let's see

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what else we got here. Let's go to Gossip Corner.

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Gossip Corner is always fun. Joe Coy, you remember Joe Koy, Scott.

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I'm doing the bit because this has been a heavy show.

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I've been trying to solve peace in the Middle East

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and Trump and I gotta do something funny. So Joe

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Koy one time he hosted the Golden Globes. You remember

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the Scott Beckett. Yeah, and he told this horrible, mean

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joke about Taylor Swift. Let's listen. Uh, the big difference

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between the Golden Globes and the NFL. On the Golden Gloves,

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we have fewer camber shots of Taylor Swift. Anyway, last weekend,

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I've had a bounce this all week Joe Coy was

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in DC. This show's a mess today, I'm trying. Joe

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Purple Patch to gobble up delicacies from fellow Filipino chef

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Patrese Cleary. Apparently Joe had some red Snapper Rihanna with

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crab and mushroom adobo at the Eater thirty eight. It's

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some interesting fact checking here. On Saturday night, Joe Coy

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told the crowd at the Capitol One Arena that he's

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never had Filipino food like that before. Oh but fact check,

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Purple Patch had previously catered Joe Coy back in twenty

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twenty two. Hmmm, is Joe Koy lying about what kind

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of Filipino food he eats? Investigation? Oh, this one's too serious.

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I get a bounce this Sorry, that goes to tomorrow.

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Shane gillis only the sixth most controversial thing I've talked

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about today. His SNL drew four point two seventy five

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million viewers and eight hundred and ninety five thousand viewers

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in the eighteen to forty nine demo, which I've aged

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out of, compared with the most recent regular episode, which

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was Timothy Chellamy on January twenty fifth. That was down

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thirteen point seven seven percent among total viewers and down

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thirteen point two eight percent in the demo. However, it

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was a step up from the sixth most controversial person

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on Today's Podcast, Shane Gillis. When Shane hosted in February

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of twenty four, he was up seven point two percent

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thirty four down ten and a half percent. Hmmm. Also,

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that up Conan oscar readings. I remember they were saying

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earlier in the week it was slightly down. The Holly

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point sixty nine million viewers on ABC and Hulu. Of course,

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the twenty four oscars back before the pandemic. The twenty

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and south By Southwest Comedy has kicked off. Let's see

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who's there tonight. It starts with Comedy Kickoff at seven pm.

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Jay Jorden, Bonnie McFarlane, Oppi Alak Baju, Caitlin Palufo. I'm

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seeing buzz on all of a sudden. If I were

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Elon Musk Disrupt Democracy l subtitled James Adomian as Elon Musk.

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The description interplanetary savior of Advanced Evolution, billionaire polymouth genius

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and Supreme Shadow President Elon Musk. Asterisk steps now into

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the light along with his most feared advisors to train

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the fierce fangs the dochegoons upon Austin, Texas. The Asterisk says,

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not actually Elon Musk. Great, great lineup, heer James Adomian,

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Anthony Tamniwick, Matt Besser, Chad Damiani, Alex English, Christina, Catherine Martinez,

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Natalie Palomides, Boy Besser, Natalie and Tammiwick and Adomian Right there, boy,

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what a great show. I'm sure we'll see some buzz

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on that next week online at nine o'clock. Three Girls,

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I see what you did there well, titled show ten

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o'clock only Murderers in the Building, Killer Comics take the

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stage for a night of mussy stand up. Greer Born

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still you've seen his name ever? All of a sudden,

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Lynn Coplets, Eddie Pepetone, Nick Thune. And that's long enough

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for a Friday. I'm bumping some things, so I got

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plenty of free tomorrow and I'm about to record tomorrow.

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So for me seeing about thirty seconds for you, see

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you tomorrow,