June 15, 2025

Bill Burr's thoughts on Media and Politics

Show Notes
Transcript

00:00 Introduction and Jim Gaffigan's Creative Journey
00:35 Jim Gaffigan on Family and SNL Experience
01:19 Joe List's Comedy Insights
03:18 Brad Williams on Performing and Politics
04:27 Kamail Nanjiani and Modern Comedy Challenges
06:22 Bill Burr on Media and Politics
07:49 Roy Wood Jr.'s Upcoming Book
08:17 Edinburgh Fringe Festival Discussion
09:26 Rhys Darby's Fan Encounters and Career Reflections

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Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your

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daily comedy news. June Gaffigan caught up with Las Vegas Weekly,

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and although it seems like Jim has accomplished everything in

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the comedy world, he says, there's stuff I want to do,

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but I guess I learned a long time ago that

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it's the creed of fulfillment I should focus on. It

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sounds corny, there's nothing better than coming up with a

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new joke. I realized this when I finally appeared on Letterman,

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which was such a huge goal of mine, and after

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that I was kind of confused. What do I do

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now that I achieved this goal? Made me reevaluate what

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I really love about it. Jim spoke about his kids.

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They're ages twelve to twenty one, so when we're all

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together it's usually around the holidays. They consistently have no

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interest in attending my shows, but when they were little,

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we threw them on the bus for a month. They've

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explored the world a little bit. Jim spoke about doing

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S and L during the election cycle. It was bizarre,

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is what you would think. But also I was usually

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done after the cold Open, so it was gearing up

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for two minutes of work as somebody who does stand

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up for like an hour. I kind of missed some

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of that longer process, but it was an opportunity I

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could never imagine just so amazing, and doing the fiftieth

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season was so incredible. If anything, it really surprised me

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because it was the first time I've done something where

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I felt like most people saw it. Maybe they didn't

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see the show, but they saw a clip of it.

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So it was the first time I was involved in

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something like that. There are very few people who were like,

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what's snl. I laughed at the New York Post. They said,

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exclusive interview with Joe List, and I'm like, all right,

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but it's not like you got I don't know Taylor Swift.

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It's Joe List, no offense, work with Joe, good guy.

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But you know, yeah, well from the exclusive interview with

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Joe List, Joe exclusively, he tells The New York Post.

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Every time I finish a special, I can't believe I

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did it again. You know, you're doing an hour on

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stage and you're like, how am I gonna write material again?

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I'm not gonna have this much stuff? And then you

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do it. Feels like a miracle every time. I feel

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like this special is better than the last one based

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on audience reactions. Plus, it's the first one I've done

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that wasn't filmed in New York at the Village Underground.

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It's the first time I've cut together two different nights

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in two different venues, so it's a lot of first

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for me. I think it's very good. I could be wrong.

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As for the time, Well, small Ball Joe List exclusively

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tells the New York Post I was opening for Louis

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c K nine years ago and we did the LA fourm,

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which is a huge, sixteen thousand seed venue. I didn't

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really know him at the time. Then we all got

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on a private jet and he was like, what a night.

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That was the best show. Joe List playing small Ball

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at the LA Forum. I'm a big baseball guy, and

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I just like the metaphor of drawing a walk and

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bunding a guy over because he sees so many specials

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out of a crane shot and it's at a stadium

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or an arena. The guy comes at the stage and

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it's some sort of big act out, which is fine

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forever's doing it, but for me, it's just like I'm

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standing here. I'm not going to move around a lot,

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but I'm gonna get the job done. It's not gonna

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be too flashy. I like this part too. Joe List

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exclusively tells The New York Post the number one comment

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I get after shows is that audience members didn't think

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I was tall. I'm very tall, six like an athlete.

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But I've had crooked teeth and glasses of most of

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my life and a bad jaw on I've been around

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Joe List, especially when a podcast company I worked at

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shared the studio with where they would tape Tuesdays with

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stories Joe and Mark Norman. I don't remember thinking that

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Joe List was tall. I don't remember thinking anything Joe said.

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People think that I'm gonna sci fi. I've never read

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a Harry Potter. I'm horrible at math. I've never seen

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Lord of the Rings. I don't play chess, and I

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get laid a good amount. I've had no formal education whatsoever.

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I went to zero college. The other thing is I

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like foreign films, but I'm also obsessed with hockey, so

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you know I'm a complex guy. Brad Williams spoke to

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the Independent about playing larger venues. Does he changed his

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style at all? Brad said, the show has always been

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sort of high energy. I've un told many times that

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the show was meant for theater, and maybe that's just

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an over compensation for my size where I'm trying to

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make it as big as possible. So this show, other

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than the material, in terms of the energy in the scale,

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doesn't changed much. It's not like a Garth Brooks Chris

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Gaines situation where I'm a completely a different person. If

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you like my show, you'll like this show. No politics.

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I don't fancy myself a political comedian. I don't want

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to be a political comedian. I don't think I'm smart

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enough to be a political comedian. So no matter who

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you voted for, you can have a good time at

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my show. I want everyone just to have a good

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night out and no matter who you voted for. So

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I wanted to forget about the things that are going

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on in the world. I want you to put down

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your phones and not doomscroll for two hours about headlines.

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I have very strong opinions about certain topics, but even

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when I bring them up with my show, the last

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thing I want you to do say hey, you think

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this way, you're stupid, or you voted for this guy,

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you're dumb. I think it's really dismissive. We all want

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the same thing. We all want success. We want safety,

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security for our friends, for our neighbors, for our family.

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Then to be able to advance in our careers and

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be able to do that. It's what literally everyone wants.

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We have different thoughts on how to achieve the goals,

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but my job is to entertain anyone who buys a ticket.

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That's my job. Well, said Brad Williams. Cameil Non Gianni.

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He said, when I started doing comedy, the whole thing

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was in Chicago doing open mics. Was like, I have

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to talk about stuff no one else is talking about.

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But now how many guys are talking about the exact

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same thing. Cancel culture, anti trans stuff, whatever the f

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it is, it's exactly the same. Gianni said. It's really

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weird to go up after someone who did a bit

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about how interracial dating is wrong and did pretty well

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with the crowd. Is that a thing? Is someone actually

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doing that as material in twenty twenty five? If I'm

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not familiar with such a set, but I will listen

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to Camille Camille said such comedians aren't even committed to

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their own philosoph They say two things simultaneously. We're like

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street level philosophers, and it's just a joke, and depending

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on what the attack is, that's a defense. Oh, it's

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just joking. But also what we do is important. We're

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speaking truth to power. Both those things can't exist at

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the same time. Verbiglia, on a similar note, said the

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decontextualization of sound and video in the last decade has

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given anyone who speaks in a microphone a certain new

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level of self consciousness. It's like, what does this paragraph

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sound like? What does this sentence sound like? What does

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this word sound like? You start to isolate everything, and

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I'm not free of that. I do think, Oh, could

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this be cut out of context? Forbigs defends Tony Hinchcliff

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the infamous joke there, Burbig said, you can like the

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joke or not, but it was a joke. The ever

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so serious Harry Connoboluh said, my stuff has always been heavy.

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That's always what I found most interesting. Racism and sexism,

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or wealth and disparity. And none of this stuff is new.

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They've been around since the founding of this country. So

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to me, I've always wrestled with the dark stuff. I've

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always found that the most absurd. That's the kind of

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stuff my hero has talked about. If anything, I've been

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trying to get lighter. The stuff that's heavier has more

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impact when it's surrounded by things that are lighter, and

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also allows the audience they get to know me outside

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of just somebody who has beliefs. When the audience feels

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like they like you, like they know you, when you

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give them the stuff with the weight, it digests better.

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It's like the difference between a random person sharing their

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personal beliefs versus a friend. When it's a friend, I

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like this person. Now he's telling me this thing, it

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makes me more likely to listen. I feel like that's

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how I've been approaching it, having these conversations. It definitely

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opens you up. Bill Burr spoke to The New Yorker

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about the cable news networks and said they're trying to

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turn my brain a mush and I'm helping them. Every night,

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Debt's scrolling on Instagram and need start reading again. Then

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every election it just comes down immigration and the other

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usual five or six talking points. It's like how we

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go through another election. No one's talking about the complete

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out of control greed. Most amazing thing for me during

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the pandemic, other than the fact that a virus got politicized,

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was the fact that if you had a three hundred

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thousand dollars house and you were trying to sell it, it

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was difficult. If you had a forty million dollar house,

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they couldn't keep them on the market. I was thinking,

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where are they getting this money? How about this? How

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about Democrats haven't been able to decide who they wanted

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for their Democratic nomination for three elections. Sanders wanted both times,

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and they said, nah, so why I have the primary?

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They didn't want them because he was gonna go after

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the stuff that's paying all the corrupt people. These are liberals.

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And then you see all the stuff that the right

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wing people doing right now, panic books, stuff like that,

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and liberals freaking out about that. It's like you guys

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are doing that four or five years ago. If you

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look at the news, well they show when they show

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a Trump are they just show the dumbest person they

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could find, going Donald Trump's a genius. That's what the

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jay stands for right now. To show a liberal. They

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show that woman crying when Trump first got elected. That's

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not an accurate patorial of either side. These are crazy people.

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And meanwhile Democrats Republicans all got on the same page

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as greedy. They can't be tried for inside of tradings

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like what that are we doing here? One of the

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most divisive things in this country has been Hollywood Awards

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shows these idiot actors. They tuck down a red states

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that never been to the exact same way idiot rednecks

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talks about California. I ain't to get the other side

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of here your opinion. We just insult them and don't

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listen to them. It's like people on the right, what

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are you a liptart? That's the Internet? The Internet? As

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you start your polling off with a f ed? Who's

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listening after f ed? Send your letters to Bill Burr.

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Happy Father's Day. Roy Wood will release his first book,

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The Man of Many Fathers Life Lessons disguised as a memoir.

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It'll be out this fall. Crown Publishing says the book

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will delve into the lessons and values a Roywood junior

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is distilled from the unexpected figures who shaped his life

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after his father's passing. Roy lost his father at the

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age of sixteen. Those father figures have included a variety

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of people's encountered, from teenage friends to Trevor Noah, which

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is interesting. Trevor no was forty one. Roywood Junior is

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forty six. The Man of Many Fathers due out October

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twenty eighth. It's Fringe season, so we're going to get

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another run of articles about the Fringe is too expensive?

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Get this every single year. I'm sure it is expensive,

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but this is not a new thing. The Guardian got

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into it. Nish Kumar told The Guardian. I don't have

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any family connections in common or television. My like up

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was that I went to a post university that had

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this relationship with Edinburgh. The review go into the Fringe

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created so many opportunities for me. There's nothing anywhere in

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the world like it. For all it's problems, I still

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see that it has this ability to change people's lives

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and teach people the job of being a comedian. Kumar

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says performing every day for a month improved his writing. Plus,

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you get a certain comfort that means you're not having

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a full blown physiological panic attack every time you stand

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one that confidence never leaves you. Comedian Annie McGrath says

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Edinburgh has already become widely unaffordable for so many acts

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and punters and landlords have a lot to answer for.

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It's really sad as it could wipe out a generation

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of new talent. It also means there's a lack of

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diversity in what's being created if only the wealthiest acts

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and the bigs names are able to go. Kumar says

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comedy is one of the things we still do well

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in this country. Not providing funding for it is insane.

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I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about the expenses.

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Reese Darby spoke to The Guardian and they were curious,

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what is one of the strangest encounters with a fan

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you've had? Luckily, Rees Dartby at a story ready and

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it goes back in the day. I said, I was

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the freestyle dance champion of a small town called Hokun

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in New Zealand. So someone needed me a woolen jacket

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that had dance champion on the back. Also, someone made

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a small bust of me once. I remember with the

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flight of the Concorde. Jamaine Clement once received a plaster

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impression of his lips. I don't know how they did it,

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but to present something to you that he's of you

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is insane. Luckily, no one's given me a Folclay model

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of my nose or anything like that. He looked back

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fondly on the Flight of the Concords days and said,

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we were young, and it was our first time in

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the States making something with their money and their brilliance.

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We got caught up in it. We just concentrated on

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how we could be so funny that we're cracking each

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other up. And when after redo the scene we had

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some control of the show, we could improvise and do

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seven or eight takes, and that was really the key,

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because I got funnier every take. I know that for

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a fact. I still say that to people when I

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do shows. I say, give me a couple more because

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I'll peek on the sixth take. Some people say, you

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went from being that guy in the Flight of the

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Concords to a sex symbol with our flag means death.

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What was that like? Rees says, I'm a comedy guy,

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not a sex symbol. My character wore some very attractive attire,

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but it's still a very insecure, bizarre weird little Man

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was to try to find himself. The character was perfect

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for me because I liked dressing up being the captain,

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and I do overcompensate with authority because I really have

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no idea what I'm doing. There were definitely some similatteries there,

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but I was not expecting anything. On a sexual note

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from fans, the audiences are amazing. That's your comedy news

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