Sept. 18, 2026

Carlos Mencia on Tax Evasion Charges, Chris Rock on LA, and Robby Hoffman on Comedy Limits

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac covers an interview with Carlos Mencia, who faces 12 LA County felony tax-evasion counts, has pled not guilty, and says he never “evaded,” expects past tax years to be filed soon, and titled his tour “Keep Me Out of Jail,” while reflecting on joke-stealing fallout, Joe Rogan’s role in amplifying it, and a decade of therapy about being a jerk. Chris Rock tells Variety he winters in LA, calling it a complicated place where fame has shifted from greatness to notoriety and where “dreams” drive extreme behavior. Robby Hoffman tells NPR she’s still figuring out what’s off-limits, discusses backlash over jokes about non-binary people, recalls bombing her first set, and says she’d host a late-night show. Other items include Stavros Halkias’s Vulture Q&A, Matthew Broussard on Cajun-Jewish heritage and Citi Bike station goals, Travis Kelce praising Adam Sandler, and a Toronto Guardian profile of comedian Dustin Searcy.

00:13 Mencia Tax Case Update
00:38 Tour Name and Backstory
01:57 Not Guilty Explanation
02:29 Cancel Culture and Rogan
04:23 Therapy and Accountability
05:04 Chris Rock on Los Angeles
05:57 Robby Hoffman Boundaries
07:04 Stavros Breakfast Confession
07:47 No Comedy Stock Market
08:09 Matthew Broussard Heritage
09:23 Kelce Praises Sandler
09:38 Toronto Comic Spotlight
10:55 Wrap Up and Tomorrow

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Hello, I'm Johnny Mac with your daily comedy news. Carlos

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Mencia did a really interesting interview with the San Antonio Current.

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You may recall that Carlos Mencia was recently charged with

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12 felony counts of tax evasion in L.A. County. Mencia

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pled not guilty to all counts. He disputes the allegations.

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He told The Current, I'm not a victim. Let's move

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forward and see where this train goes. At the end

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of the day, my work will hopefully be what people

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will remember me by. Well, that's a whole other conversation.

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Carlos named his new tour, Keep Me Out of Jail.

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The current was curious, is that your way of taking

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control of the narrative? Carlos said, you know, everything today

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is some kind of manipulation. Up until 2007 or 2008,

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I started getting popular and I started getting a lot

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of hate because of joke stealing allegations. I wasn't ready

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for all that to come. Even since then, my business

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has dropped way more than the average career. Since then,

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I've been treading water like a little duck. So when

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I was charged with tax evasion, it was almost welcomed.

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The current was like, why'd you welcome that? What happened?

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Carlos said they came up with a new tax task

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force in Southern California. I was expecting that at some

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point I'd go to a comedy club and get a

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phone call from my agent saying, listen, you're not going

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to get paid this week. California is garnishing your paycheck

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or some stuff like that. And I'd be like, oh, no.

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All right. Time to take care of that. I grew

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up poor when my family was really crunching for money.

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My mom and dad would put all the bills on

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the table. The pink ones were the ones we had

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to pay. That was the way I dealt with my taxes. Inevitably,

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you're going to have to take care of it. And

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so I'm taking care of it. Two things there. So

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do you remember like when Chappelle's show blew up, Carlos

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was like the replacement and they treated it like it was,

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you know, a new season of Chappelle. Basically, it was

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same kind of set, same kind of vibe. Like he

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was really up there into the joke stealing thing. Carlos

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Menzelia is still one of my favorite lines ever. So

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the current was like, it sounds like you want to

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take responsibility, but you also pled not guilty to the charges, right?

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Carlos said, I never evaded. I filled out my 1099s

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everywhere I went. I legit didn't have enough money to

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cover my bases. I knew this would happen, but within

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the next couple of weeks, all those tax years are

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going to be filed. Once those tax years are filed,

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there's no more evasion. It's kind of like they're accusing

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me of murdering somebody, but the person is still alive.

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I'm just going to have to pay whatever fines and

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then it'll go away. At the end of the day,

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they did the right thing. Hmm. I'm not an expert

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in tax, but I'm reading that and I'm like, huh? Yeah. OK. Hey,

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I trust you, Carlos. The current said, you've said in

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the past that you're the first person the Internet has

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ever tried to cancel. What do you mean? Carlos said,

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that's me, bro. Like, legit, everybody thought the joke-stealing allegations

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would go away, but there were some factors that nobody considered.

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I'll weigh in here. Like, the joke-stealing? First, it was

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being driven by Joe Rogan, somebody who had a platform.

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So when Joe drove her repeatedly, the story got bigger.

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I've met Carlos Mencia. He was very nice in person,

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but when I met him, he wasn't saying that he

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didn't do the joke-stealing. So I don't know if this

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is revisionist or I haven't read enough of the article, but, like,

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I was in the room with the guy. Like, he

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wasn't saying that that didn't happen. He was very apologetic

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and whatever that was, 20 years ago, 15 years ago,

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it's probably more like 20 at this point. But as

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he said, so when Joe drove over repeatedly, the story

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got bigger. I was told to let it go and

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not address it. It wasn't what I want to do.

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So I said, okay, I disagree with you, but I'll

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do what you guys want. I paid a lot of

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money to a lot of people for that advice and

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it was 100% wrong. The current did a good job here.

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They were like, all right, if you could go back,

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would you defend yourself harder against the allegations? Carlos said, no,

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I wouldn't, but for a different reason. I wouldn't defend

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myself because if I did, I wouldn't have learned that

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I'm not a very sensitive person. I would never have

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been able to understand bullying. Go online. You can see

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that they tried to attack me for everything, from my

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name being Carlos... to the fact that I'm not Mexican,

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to stealing jokes. I don't remember anyone, I don't remember

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anybody being upset or making comments about his name being Carlos.

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I do remember being surprised to learn that he wasn't

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of Mexican ancestry because we used to do like a

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comedy World Cup kind of thing, you know, and we

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would pitch comedians of whatever ancestry against other people. So

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I think Louis C.K. from the top of my mind

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is of Mexican ancestry. And then Is Carlos from Honduras?

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I'm doing this from memory. The editor chimed in here

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that Carlos Mencia's birth name is Ned. And yes, he's

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of Honduran ancestry. See, my brain still works. But I

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don't remember anybody being like, your name's not Carlos. I

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don't remember that. Anyway, Carlos Mencia said there was a

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lot of stuff they tried. It was concerted effort. When

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that occurred, it took me a long time to realize

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that if somebody thinks you're a jerk cleaning it up,

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F that person. But if everybody thinks you're a jerk,

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you're probably a jerk. The current nailing it again. Are

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you saying that you were a jerk, D-word, but didn't

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realize it? Carlos said, yes, it took a decade of

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therapy for me to realize that. One of my best

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friends said to me, you can be a effing a-hole

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sometimes and you don't even know it. I had to

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deal with that and really look within. I'd say from

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2010 to 2020, that was the journey I was on,

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trying to find myself in that respect. I think having

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to deal with tax evasion allegations now is the culmination

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of all that. In a way, it's liberating because I've

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been waiting for the shoe to drop. Really, really fascinating

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stuff there. Chris Rock spoke to Variety about his relationship

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with Los Angeles. Chris said, it's weird. I just bought

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a place there. In parentheses, it says assumes a snobbish effect.

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So Chris must have said, I just bought a place there.

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So I went here in L.A. I love parts of it.

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I always say the average movie studio like Paramount. What's

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in Paramount? Does cameras, sound equipment. What do you do

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with that? Can you really steal that stuff? There's more

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value at the average Home Depot than at Paramount. But

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Paramount's got armed guards. Why? Because they have dreams in

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there and people will do anything to get their dreams.

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Chris Rock is so grounded. I've appreciated reading this article.

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He said L.A. is a complicated place, man. Fame's a

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complicated thing. I've seen the switch in my lifetime. It

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used to be that everybody wanted to be great, a

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great singer, great actor, great comedian. Now it's just fame,

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and the greatness is almost assumed. I mean, you're always

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going to be at it at some point if you

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don't have the goods, but L.A. is the mecca of that.

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It can be beautiful, it's got the best weather in

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the world, but it also attracts an underbelly that people

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want to pretend doesn't exist. Wow. Robbie Hoffman says she's

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still figuring out what topics, if any, are off-limits. She

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caught up with NPR. She has taken heat for some

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of her jokes, including jokes about the non-binary community and

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dismissing the use of they-them pronouns. Hoffman told NPR, I

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like to cope and explore through jokes, and I feel

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like I should be more able to do that than, say,

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some of my counterparts. I feel like if I can't

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talk about it, who can? Hoffman describes herself as, quote,

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somebody who's clearly in the queer space, who cut my

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breasts off, who could be they them at the drop

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of a hat. I think it's fair if they're mad

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about it. I also think it's fair for many of

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us to laugh at it. And I feel like I

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want to talk about the stuff that I know and

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experience day to day. She talked about her first standup performance,

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which she described as brutal. Hoffman said, I went to

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a club where I was living and I said, what

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is the best place to bomb? She only made it

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through one minute of a five minute set. but said,

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it was good, even the one minute I did. I've

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never been the overnight sensation, overnight success. I've always been

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the slow and steady, keep at it. She was asked

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if she would host a late night show. Robbie Hoffman, 12.30,

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make 12.30 great again. Seth, goodbye. How about Robbie Hoffman

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at 12.30? That could be interesting. She says, I'd be excellent.

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Call me. I'm on board. Stavros Halgias did the Maria

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Bamford questionnaire for Vulture. Some of the questions were, what

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did you have for breakfast? Is it your usual? Stavros said,

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I was running late to a podcast and I had

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a chicken sausage, egg, and cheese with a green juice

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from a bagel and juice place that happened to be

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right where my friend's studio is. I was really pumped

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about the chicken sausage. I find pork sausage a little

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too heavy, unless it's in brat form and coming right

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off the grill, but they didn't divulge it was maple flavored.

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Real problem, put a damper on the entire breakfast experience.

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I want my breakfast sandwiches purely savory. Stavros tells us

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I tend not to eat breakfast because I'm regressing to

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all my worst habits currently, so I basically don't eat

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until I'm starving. Then I order an obscene amount of

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takeout and one giant meal. I found the one-way intermittent

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fasting doesn't work. We will skip the comedy stock market today. Why,

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Johnny Mac? Because today I'm at the podcast festival. We

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love the comedy stock market. I do, too. But here's

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the deal. This is the week of the big podcasting conference.

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So right now I'm in New York City at the

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podcasting conference. I had to tape this episode in advance.

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So I don't have enough knowledge of what happened during

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the week for the comedy stock market. We'll get back

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to it next week. Matthew Broussard spoke to NOLA.com. He

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talked about his heritage, which is Cajun and Jewish. He said,

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those two groups don't get along very well. Quoting Broussard,

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here's how much Cajuns hate Jews. They design all their

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food so Jews can't eat it. Every dish is either

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shellfish or pork. All of it. Shrimp creole, crawfish etouffee, jambalaya, boudin.

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You know how not kosher boudin is? It's made up

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of ground pork wrapped in pages of the Old Testament.

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And he says, it's delicious. Good tag. He says his

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father continued to speak to his brothers in French, but

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he wasn't that proud of Cajun culture. Matthew said the

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only Cajun presence we had in our house was Adam

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Sandler's character in The Waterboy. That was deeply offensive to

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my father. He hated that guy. You go, Mr. Broussard.

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I'm with you. One of his hobbies is exploring using

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City Bike, which is the New York City bike share program.

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He says his tracking feature shows that he's hit 1,700

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of the city's 2,500 bike stations. That is impressive. He's

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trying to hit them all. He says mathematically, it's an

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incredibly difficult problem to solve. It's called the traveling salesman problem,

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plotting the minimum route between a bunch of different nodes,

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whether it's 20 or 100. It becomes mathematically impossible. Even

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with computers, the amount of time it takes to compute

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is incalculable. And speaking of Adam Sandler, Travis Kelsey spoke

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about Adam Sandler on Travis's podcast there. You may recall

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Adam Sandler was the officiant at the Travis Kelsey-Adam Sandler wedding.

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Travis said he's just been the effing best person on

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the planet. And from the Toronto Guardian, they do a

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regular look at local comedians. Today, it's Dustin Searcy, who

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describes his comedy style as a blend of silliness, sarcasm

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and passionate storytelling. Who are your influences, Dustin Searcy? Great

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list here. Mr. Bean, Daniel Tosh, Dave Chappelle, the genie

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from Aladdin. That's Robin Williams, isn't it? And Terry Crews

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from the Old Spice commercials. I love that list. Who's

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your favorite comedian growing up? Robin Williams. Now it tracks.

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Favorite comedian now? He said it varies day to day,

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but right now a YouTube video of Larry David getting

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mad at a parking lot gate because it won't accept

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his credit card, causing him to hold up traffic. So

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Larry David. I also always drink a club soda with lime.

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This is fun. What's your favorite bit you've written and

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why are you proud of it? When I was in

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grade three, my teacher was trying to teach us the

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word synonym. And to make her and the class laugh,

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I kept pronouncing it cinnamon. With slight variations, not the

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most creative joke, but I committed 100%. After a couple

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of minutes, I had her in tears, which I was

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very proud of because I had a massive crush on her.

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She was hesitant to consider a relationship because of the

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age gap. She was in her early 20s and I

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was in my 80s. The way to her heart was

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making her laugh. Sadly, we never dated. And that is

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your comedy news for today. What's on tomorrow's show? I

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don't know because I taped this a week ago. Did

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I mention I'm at a podcasting conference? See you with

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something tomorrow.