Sept. 20, 2026

Chris Rock on Fame, Stavros Halikis on Leaving Cum Town, and Eric Idle’s Monty Python Dispute

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac delivers comedy news featuring Chris Rock discussing how fame has shifted from perks like free stuff to realizing fan interactions can make someone’s day, and accepting celebrity as part of who he is. A GQ profile of Stavros Halikis covers fan encounters, the origins and appeal of the “Cum Town” podcast, its unexpected success, and his decision to leave despite major income to focus on his own work after self-funding projects. Jay Pharoah says comedians help people laugh through pain, notes Jay-Z enjoys his impression, and jokes about audience members sitting up front. Eric Idle tells The Telegraph about Monty Python tensions, rights and “Spamalot” royalties, the failed 1999 reunion and a scrapped final film idea, the 2014 O2 reunion’s origin, John Cleese remarks, and changes to the group’s veto/board dynamics. The Chicago Reader segment describes comedians’ pre-show eating habits, favoring bland, protein-rich food and avoiding stomach trouble.

00:12 Chris Rock on Fame
00:49 Stavros Bagel Fame Woes
01:45 Come Town Origins
02:54 Quitting at Peak Money
03:55 Sandler Song and Future Collabs
04:26 Jay Pharoah on Comedy
04:51 Monty Python Feud Begins
05:43 Royalties and Reunion Shows
06:16 Cleese Idle Fallout
07:10 Veto Power and Bitterness
08:19 Comedians Pre Show Eating
10:07 Sunday Sign Off

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Kalaroga Shark Media. Hello, I'm Johnny Mac with your daily

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comedy news. Variety caught up with Chris Rock and they

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reminded him, bring the pain is when you truly became

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a celebrity. What has changed about your experience of fame

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from then to now? Chris Rock said it used to

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be about getting free stuff and how you're basically on

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the third date with anybody you date. They're like, I

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know you. You're at least on the second date. You

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skip a date just by being famous. When people come

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up to me, it used to scare me. Now I

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realize you're making somebody's day. I try to ask them

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at least one question, like, where are you from? As

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simple as that. And they're like, oh, I had a

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conversation with Chris Rock. I've learned to accept this is

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who I am. It's like basketball. If you're seven feet tall,

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you can't get mad at people asking if you play.

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I try not to think about fame, but it could

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be a lot worse. You could be infamous. So I

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accept it. It helps me get work. Stavros Helki has

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had a profile in GQ. He says his workplace hazard

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is a bunch of guys that look like him stop

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him when he goes to get pails. He says most

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of the time I actually really like it. The only

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time it's tough is if you're having a bad day.

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I remember one time I just made an attempt to

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get this girl back. We were talking. She had started

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dating somebody who was fresh. And I was like, I

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think I might have a little window to get back

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in here. Maybe I can grab the cheese before the

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trap hits me. And I gave it my all. We're

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getting oysters. I picked a beautiful restaurant. I'm making my pitch.

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I'm like, let's be together. I messed up so bad.

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She hits me with a, no, absolutely not. Are you

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out of your mind? I tried to do this. You're

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just a piece of crap who can't accept love until

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it's gone. And that messed me up. And I'm walking

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home to keep it together. And some guy's like, stop,

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my boy. And I'm like, come on, I'm crying, dude.

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I'm heartbroken with a belly full of oysters. I got

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to make a video for your friend. You want me

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to set the fantasy football order for your draft this

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year right now? Dude, I can't do that for you, man.

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So that's the only time it's a problem. Most of

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the time, like I said, I live a hysterical life.

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And on a regular day, if I got to say

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hi to a couple of people, that's nice. I actually

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like it. Then he talked about the end of the

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Comptown podcast. He said, I thought we would do eight episodes.

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I was doing it to appease my buddy, Nick. At

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the time, he was like, let's do a podcast. I

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was like, dude, podcasts are over. Marin did it. In 2015,

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it kind of felt like that first wave of podcasts

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had crested. Little did we know. I think the year

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we started ended up a whole bunch of other things

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we launched. We launched the Doughboys, Pardon My Take, Blank Check,

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and I'm sure I'm missing a ton. Those are just

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the ones in my world. Nick was right. No, of course,

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I didn't think it would work. It was one of

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those things where it was like, yeah, who gives an F?

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We can buy a Zoom and three microphones and see

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what happens. And it ended up being wildly successful beyond

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anyone's dreams. I think what people liked on an immediate

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level is just that it was recreating the middle school

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cafeteria table. It's like three dumbasses saying insane stuff to

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make each other laugh. It's like, how funny can you

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get inside the intimacy of a real friendship and once

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you have buy-in and trust each other? The funniest jokes

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are to make saying the most effed up things, because

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how far can you push it when the other person

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still knows you're a good person? That's kind of the joke.

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And if you're really good friends with someone, you can

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say insane stuff. Now, we happen to broadcast that to

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people that don't know us personally at all, and I

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think that was the ultimate appeal. It was really funny

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as hell. I mean, Mullen is one of the best

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in terms of riffing. Nick Mullen is a savant on podcasts.

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We were making so much money, and I quit. It's

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the scariest thing I've ever done in my life. I

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was getting a check for, I don't even remember, like

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40 grand a month or something. Let's do the math

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on that. Times 12, that's 40. That's half a million

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dollars a year. Not bad. If nothing else happened in

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my career but that, I still would have considered it

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a success. You don't get to that level in comedy

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most of the time. I was working clubs. I was

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basically doing my initial dream, but I realized exactly what

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I wanted. And as much as I love Nick and

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as funny as he is, it was his show first

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and foremost that And I did feel like a support player,

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which now I'm happy to do in these broader contexts

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because it's stuff I'm interested in, like movies or whatever.

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a comeback when I was 45. And so it was

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a really scary thing to do. I just paid for

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my first special out of pocket. Nobody wanted it. So

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I did it myself on YouTube and I lost 50

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grand on that. I had to spend another 50 grand

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on the Stavis World Studio after that. And so it

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was a really scary moment after leaving. But it was like, great.

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It had to end. I mean, that's the other thing.

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That's a young man's game. Uh-oh. Wait, he was 45

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and he says, podcasting's a young man's game? Uh-oh, somebody

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tell the guy in the basement doing daily comedy news.

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He says, Sandler's At a Medium Pace is one of

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the funniest things of all time. Okay, now as a

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known Adam Sandler, not hater, but like I don't find

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Adam Sandler funny, I do like At a Medium Pace.

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It is a funny song. He says, we made some

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awesome dumb BS, the stuff that I would have loved

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when I was 14. We made that and that's cool,

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but you don't want to be that guy forever. Apparently

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Adam Sandler does though. See, that's the thing. But I

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think the relationship can go in different ways. Nick comes

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on my podcast all the time. I've had Adam on.

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I'd love someday to collaborate on something when it makes sense.

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But in that context, no, I don't think that podcast

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could have gone on. Jay Farrow told WTOP, I think

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it's our job as comedians to make people forget about

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their problems or forget about the problems at all, or

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just laugh about their problems so they can forget about

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the pain. He talked about his impression of Jay-Z. He says,

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Jay-Z loves the impression. He calls me fake Jay-Z every

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time he sees me. Jay Farrow warns, if you go

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see him, don't sit up front. If you don't want

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me to get into your browser history, you shouldn't sit

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in the front. That's great. Let's bring us to the

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Monty Python War. I've been enjoying this because I love

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some drama. Eric Idle speaking to The Telegraph. He talked

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about the various pythons. They started with Graham Chapman, who

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passed away at age 48 back in 1989. Idle says,

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if you think of John Cleese as the father... Graham

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Chapman was the mother. He could be horrible when drunk

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and vicious, certainly to me. And then once he stopped drinking,

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I think he saw me. The whole process of him

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being ill and dying was very emotional for everybody. You know,

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he was lovely. Then in 1999, a 30-year reunion was

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set to happen. It fell apart. Eric Idle at that point,

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a TV interview said, I realized we would never agree

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on anything ever again. That sunk his idea for a

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final Monty Python movie, which was called The Final Crusade.

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in which a group of grumpy old knights reluctantly agree

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to carry King Arthur's ashes to Jerusalem. I'd be curious

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to read a script of that. Then they talked about Spamalot.

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We learn that a significant rights royalty is paid to

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the pythons as a group. Eric Idle gets the biggest share.

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He says, I think I have more business sense. I

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think they're not very good at it, a lot of them.

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But then one of the producers of the original film

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sued for a share of the pot. Then there was

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a legal battle, and the fees from that created the

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2014 Python reunion at London's O2 Arena. That was a

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one-off show that sold out in 45 seconds, so they

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did four more. And those sold out in an hour,

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and five shows became ten. But that's most likely it.

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Terry Jones died in 2020. And then there's John Cleese's

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comment from 2024 on Twitter, which read, We always loathed

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and despised each other, but it's only recently that the

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truth has begun to emerge. People thought that was at

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Eric Idle. Cleese claimed it was about the others, too,

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and he was joking anyway. Eric Idle said, I think

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it might be what he secretly feels. We've been good

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friends from time to time. There are things I'm grateful

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to him for, seeing I was funny, putting me in

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a show, and then being supportive of me many times

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in his life, and then suddenly deciding, I don't know

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what happened. I felt it happened during COVID, and I

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called him up, and he was getting more and more angry.

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I don't know. It's like they all got angry about Spamalot,

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and you go, excuse me, I made you all a

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million effing dollars each. When you pay that back, we

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can talk. Obviously, one likes to feel that you're not

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vilified unjustly. I don't read what they say, and sometimes

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someone will say, there's another clip. Eric Idle's proud of

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his own comedic chops. He was the only one who

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wrote without a partner. He said, it's harder, but I

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still write by myself, and I don't think Cleese can, actually.

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He always has to have a partner. The famous Monty

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Python veto is no more. It is an ex-veto. It

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used to be, unless everyone in the room thought a

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sketch was funny, they wouldn't do it. Idol says that

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was removed under dubious circumstances a few years ago. They

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have three votes. I have one. They don't have board meetings,

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or at least they don't tell me about them. That's

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not great emotionally, but I can live with that easily.

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You mean I don't have to go in a room

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and bicker with those folks again? I think it's sad

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and horrible, though, particularly given it's against me. It's like,

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what did I do wrong in the last 20 years

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for you? He has determined not to become a bitter.

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He said, I've known many, many comedians, so many funny people.

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And on the whole, they become sweeter and sweeter. But

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I think some get grumpy. Death makes them very anxious,

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especially if they were more narcissistic at times in their lives.

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It's hard for them to let go of what they

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once had, which was sometimes a masterful control of comedy.

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I feel like he's talking about one person in particular.

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Eric Idle's not a fan of looking back. He says

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they could have done a world tour after the London shows,

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but Michael turned it all down. I think that was fair.

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You shouldn't be forced into doing things you don't want

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to do when you've gotten older and you've got more

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interesting things you want to do. I think regret is

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not a useful emotion. I say as you get older,

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you either get old and better... We're old and bitter.

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From the Chicago Reader, this is some Sunday kind of

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stuff if you're relatively new to the show. You know,

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sometimes I'll pre-tape a weekend, perhaps right now. We do

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some of the more esoteric stuff on Sundays, especially in

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the second half. Chicago Reader took a look at how

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comedians eat before and after going on stage. Jordan Wilson

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likes to caffeine and carb load. Yeah, that makes sense.

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He said, Today I woke up, made my quad shot

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oat latte. Then for lunch, I had a jerky stick

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and a plain bagel. I really like raw dogging bagels.

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Often I have two bagels for lunch, just raw. And

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four slices of wheat toast to the face. It's good carbs.

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For the past 13 years, he's been performing as half

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of a musical comedy duo with Bobby Sullivan. During this interview,

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Sullivan was eating salted pistachios and chasing them with his

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second Dr. Pepper of the day. Sullivan said, I mostly

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don't think about food. But on this particular day, he

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said he'd eaten a lot for a performance day. Four

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rice cakes slathered with peanut butter, followed by a Jersey

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Mike sub with barbecue chips. Wilson chimed in, I don't

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think about food much either, except is when this is

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going to give me diarrhea. Yeah, that would be bad

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if you were on stage. He adds, I've definitely had

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spicy Korean barbecue before a show and felt gurgling. And

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then I'm like, I got to tell the audience, but

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there's nothing they want to hear about less than your

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current digestive situation. Cynthia Levin says before show she might

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eat half a baked potato at home or part of

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a veggie burrito in the car. Most of the comedians

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for this said they try to go for bland and

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protein rich. Protein bars factor heavily as does chicken bake

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or a chicken Caesar wrap. Ashley Lusk explains you don't

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want a full stomach. You don't want anything to hold

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you back or weigh down on stage. dan drees recalled

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wolfing down a bag of flaming hot cheetos before set

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then he sweated through his set with bright red fingers

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and that is your comedy news on a sunday we'll

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see you tomorrow