March 3, 2025

Conan O'Brien Stuns as Oscars Host - with guest Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast

Conan O'Brien Stuns as Oscars Host - with guest Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast

In this bonus edition of the Daily Comedy News, host Johnny Mac is joined by Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast to discuss Conan O'Brien's standout performance as the host of the Oscars. The conversation covers Conan's unique approach, the...

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In this bonus edition of the Daily Comedy News, host Johnny Mac is joined by Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast to discuss Conan O'Brien's standout performance as the host of the Oscars. The conversation covers Conan's unique approach, the collaborative efforts with his team, and his seamless transition from TV to podcasting. Mike also shares behind-the-scenes insights into the production, the significance of Conan's long-time collaborators, and the comparisons to previous Oscar hosts like David Letterman and Billy Crystal. The episode dives into key moments from the Oscars, including Conan's musical performance, interactions with celebrities, and real-time improvisational skills, as well as speculation on Conan's future in hosting major events.


00:25 Conan O'Brien's Oscar Hosting Performance
01:23 Conan's Unique Style and Audience Interaction
04:31 Conan's Monologue and Opening Jokes
05:46 Conan's Comfort Level and Audience Engagement
14:22 Adam Sandler's Audience Bit
16:53 Nick Offerman as the Oscar Announcer
19:11 Conan's Musical Performance
20:24 Conan's Hosting Style: A Deep Dive
21:21 The Legacy of Late Night Hosts
22:46 Conan's Future in Entertainment
23:27 The Art of Hosting Live Shows
26:59 Balancing Comedy and Sensitivity
28:36 Reflections on Conan's Career
36:41 Upcoming on the Letterman Podcast

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Kalaroga Shark Media.

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Hiley hoo. I'm Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news

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bonus edition. As promised, I pained Mike Chisholm from The

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Letterman Podcast to get him on here, and I have

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one question for Mike and then I'm gonna let him go. Mike,

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are you prepared to admit to my fans, your fans,

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Letterman fans, Conan fans, that Conan O'Brien is better at

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hosting the Oscars than David Letterman.

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Man, not as only is he better at hosting than

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David Letterman, I would say that he is better than

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hosting than only the upper echelon of best hosts of

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all time. Conan absolutely knocked it out of the park

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last night. Oh my god, what a great Oscars that was.

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I love that you didn't hesitate at all, because we

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all know we both love Dave. But it is what

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it is. But yeah, Conan was fantastic. I see a

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note here. This is from comedian Jeff Tweety. I just

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saw this on threads. He wrote, Conan my be the

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most beloved crossover comedian of the last thirty years. You

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talk about a guy who crushes it with anti comedy,

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comedy snobs, yep and traditional club stand up fans. Has

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no real controversies except ones where he's screwed over by

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Jay Leno paraphrasing, seamlessly transitioned from TV to full time

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podcasting and remained hugely relevant. Yeah, yeah, unbelievable. What a

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great job.

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Yeah, it was. It was like he took all of

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the best moments that he remembered from the Oscars that

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he enjoyed mixed in his not just his brand of comedy,

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because I felt Smigel, I felt different elements of like.

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It was very much a Conan O'Brien Oscars, there's no question,

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but where when Dave hosted back in the day, he

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would take his sensibility and even some of his bits

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and kept them the way that they were. Conan took

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things sensibility and again even I would say a couple

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of the things that happened would be Conan bits, but

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he elevated them and he really morphed them for that

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audience so well. And again it was very much a

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Conan O'Brien Oscars, but also broad enough that the pop

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culture appeal of it was just absolutely flawless. As far

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as I'm concerned it was very traditional.

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On Saturday's episode, in my Oscar's preview, I picked up

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on an interview where Conan was talking about how he

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grew up watching the Oscars and watching the host of

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the past, and I noticed at one point, pretty early

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in the show, he had that old timey rhythm of

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you do a chapter, you do a segment, you switch topics,

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for example, Yeah, and how about conclave joke, audience reacts, pause,

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and then there's an aura and you do another chuck.

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It's almost the same rhythm as a roast where you

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goo and Mike Chisholm is here. Hey, he's wearing his

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letterman jacket. That's a shock hot. That's not a mean joke,

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it's just a joke. And I felt like he had

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that old Bob Hope rhythm and Hope gets killed for

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the work he did after age eighty. People go back

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and watch Bob Hope clips, please. He had the classic

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Oscars host rhythm.

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Yeah no, no, no, that rhythm that he had completely the

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same rhythm that Conan fans have come to the thing

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about it is, it's it's every bit his rhythm as well.

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But you're you're exactly right the way that he would

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and again you're right again. And also nothing is me.

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I'm not trying to just agree with everything that you

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just said, but it's all perfectly relevant. The mood of

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it was so light. He wasn't mean about things, like

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even the opening that he did with the Substance with

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to be moore that that is such a perfect Conan moment.

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I remember when he owsted the Emmys and he came

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through the ceiling of the office and he was in

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twenty four and he was in when he came in

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when they started the show with a couple of things,

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the video montage and then a couple other but the

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Conan part where he was mocking or doing a mock

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up or a parody of the substance. I was expecting

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that he might do that throughout the show for all

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of the movies but he all the Best Picture movies,

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but he didn't. But he did give homage to a

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lot of them, very smartly and very uniquely throughout the show.

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I just yeah, again, I'm gushing all over this thing.

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But I'm gonna watch it again. I'm gonna go back

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and watch Power the Oscars again. It was so good.

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One of the things I jotted down. I did a

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substack post this morning, mainly commenting on Hulu screwing the pooch.

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So if you didn't catch up on that, Hulu cut

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out during the Best Actress Award and never came back.

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So yeah, I had a hop on my ship and

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head to International Waters to see best pictures, if you

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know what I'm saying. But it was like, come on, Hulu,

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what are you doing. But as part of the substack

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I mentioned I don't have much to say about Conan,

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and that is high praise because the gig and you

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and I have talked about what the gig is and

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the seacrest of it all. The gig is once you

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get past the opening montage and you've done your monologue

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and you've done whatever the big stunt is at the beginning.

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From there on, it's keep the show moving and stay

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out of the way. If you and I are having

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a conversation right now about Conan O'Brien and he did this,

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and he did that, and I did that, other than

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just wow, that was really good, really enjoyed it, that's

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the wrong conversation to have.

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At the beginning of his monologue, there was a part

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where maybe not at the very beginning, he had a

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couple jokes out of the way the police sit down

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at the beginning that was really funny. But there was

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a part where he was walking around and he even said,

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I am walking around the stage to show you that

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I have control of it. It's almost like he took

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a note from somebody who might have directed one of

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these things for a long, long period of time and

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told him that, and he just goes around and he says, yes,

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this is what I'm doing. As soon as he did that,

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I'm like, Oh, this is gonna be that perfect blend

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of exactly what you're talking about. He's doing what we're

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expecting him to do, but now he is taking control

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of the ship and gonna take us for a ride

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at the same time, and applied the pressure of that

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pedal perfectly. He didn't do anything to overshadow it. All

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he did was accentuated.

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So let's walk through it chronologically, because I think there

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was a point where his comfort level set in and

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when he was prancing the stage. I don't think we

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were there yet. Yeah, the opening clip the substance parody

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very conan. As you suggest, you seem to like it.

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I didn't think it landed, don't. I don't hate it.

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I'm not gonna kick a can about it, but I

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don't think it landed.

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I don't know if it landed or not, but a ditch.

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First off, it did for me, but I'm a Conan fan,

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and I think that needless to say. It may not

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have landed for the pop culture of everybody else, but

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it did show. This is a very Conan O'Brien joke,

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very consistent with his stuff with the Emmys and whatnot.

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But to me, that's where you knew that this was

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gonna have his sensibility all over this program.

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I'll compare this performance to pitching a baseball game. I

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feel like he may have walked the first batter and

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went two and zero on the next guy, and I

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was getting a little nervous, and then he settled in

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and found his fastball and just crushed it. Because my

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next note here is there was an early joke about

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a complete unknown and two other things rhythm of three

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typical joke, and I could I knew the joke was

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coming once he said a complete unknown. Now I thought

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the punchline was gonna be. That's what they said about

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me back in ninety four, but I still could tell

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that it was going to be a joke about him

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and a bit telegraphed, and at that point that we're

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very early here, I was like, ooh, this could be

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rough because the audience hadn't settled in yet. A complete unknown,

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a real a real pain. They'll turn out too. These

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are just some of the names I was called on

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the red carpet.

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Yeah. No, there was that nervous energy and the uncertainty,

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and you're right, there was a settling. There was a

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settling in point. I'll tell you this. The part where

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I got really excited was the John Lithgow gag. It

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seems we're not gonna pull anybody off the stage, where

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he's gonna show John with a disappointed look in the audience,

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pointing it out, doing it perfectly. That also to me

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very on brand for Conan, and to me that got

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the audience excited as well. The way that he would

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interact with people in the audience. I think that's always

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a hallmark that does transcend host a host playing with

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people in the audience, and many times you might want

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to be playing with the biggest movie stars and all

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of that sort of stuff. Conan having fun with John

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lithgowt to me was a lot of fun.

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Let me sidebar there. One of the notes I had

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for the telecast was they did a great job. It

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was celebrities that I say that I live on old

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Man Mountain. I'm fifty five years old. These were celebrities

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that even I've heard of. They but they were current stars.

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It wasn't like, oh yeah, they brought out Mark Campbell

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from nineteen seventy seven, who they later did you know?

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It was today's stars, today's musicians, not quote unquote my people.

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It felt very modern. I have the highest compliments for

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the production. I'll jump wayhead to the end when they

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honored Quincy Jones, So how do we honor Quincy Jones?

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And I thought picking a song from The Wiz was brilliant?

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High five whoever thought of that? Because it ties the

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Wiz to Wicked, which ties the past to today, and

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the Whiz is like almost fifty years old now, which

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is differently scary. Just a really modern feel honoring the

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past being tied to the past. But an oscars for

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twenty twenty five.

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My wife and I we talked at length about Wicked

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because my wife adores Wicked. This is one of those

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movies that we saw it twice in the theater and

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then the moment the digital came out, and my wife

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was just so excited that they started the show with

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Somewhere over the Rainbow. All of the Wizard of Oz

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connections throughout this telecast I thought was brilliant, and the Wiz.

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I just wish they would have mentioned Michael Jackson's name

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to me, that's the uh, you know, the script for

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Oprah and for Whoopy talking about all the different artists

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that he worked with, But they didn't mention Michael Jackson's name,

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but yet they said he was the helm of we

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are the world. Didn't mention Michael's name, but then they

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showed the Wiz, which, again, you're right, perfect tie in there.

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They're a better way to tie him to the relevancy

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of this year than that. But I thought it was very,

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very safe. It was a very safe copy that was

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given to those ladies not to mention Michael Jackson's name,

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even though Quincy Jones of course, always will be tied

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to that body of work as well. That being said, yeah,

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absolutely there was Wicked was all over this thing. Again,

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this is what I want to know is how much

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input does Conan and his team get to come in

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and they get to callborate with this institution that's been

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around forever, does Conan get does he get to say

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how hard they're going to press the wicked pedal versus

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say some of the other pedals that he could press.

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I'm super curious about that.

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After I let Mike go, I went upstairs to grab

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an iced coffee with caramel mil because you know, and

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I realized I didn't answer his question about the production

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of it all, and I do want to just address

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that because I feel like I have something to say

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about it. I've produced a few things in my life,

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nothing on the scale of the Oscars, but I've produced

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a few things. As for Conan's involvement with the rest

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of the show, in my experience as somebody who's produced

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things on and off for thirty years, what would happen is, uh,

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so you've got a host lined up and then on

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the suits end, So I'll put myself on the suit's end.

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I would grab my team and start spitballing. Okay, what

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could we do with host who's got some ideas? And

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we would come up with a million ideas, and then

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the leader of the project, me would contact the talents

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principal person. So in this case, if I'm producing the Oscars,

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I've got my team, We're bouncing some ideas, and now

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I'm going to whoever Conan's guy or gal is and saying, hey,

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do you think Conan would be into any of this?

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That person, having the position of being Conan's guy or gal,

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knows how Conan thinks and is like, no, he would

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never do that. He might be into that, let me

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bounce it off him. And then then that person would

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go to the host, get some feedback, and then come

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back to my team and tell us the yeah, no,

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he doesn't want to do the thing with the pony.

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I thought the thing with the basketball was kind of fun,

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and there's no way he wants to do the thing

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about geopolitics. And then from there you would shape the

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show together. But that's my experience. Anyway, back into Mike.

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Does Conan get does he get to say how hard

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they're going to press the wicked pedal versus say some

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of the other pedals that he could press. I'm super

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curious about that. Me and Robert Morton are gonna be

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talking about this. I was Mexicano, no great messaging him

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throughout the telecats. I said, if you've been talking to

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Jeff Ross and he said all day? And I was like,

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oh gosh, I want to know more about those conversations

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because I really want to know how much input these

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guys had into the substance of the show, rather than

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just the acides between the substance that was there. I

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want to know how much collaboration was there.

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You know, you get better, guess I get you.

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I don't know if I don't know if we're gonna

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make it a letter in podcast or now we're doing

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a phone call and we're gonna talk about it. But

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he may he may be coming on for that. But yeah,

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Jeff Rock Spigel all over this thing. Well, yeah, the

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chronological thing I think is a good idea. But I

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want to go back to that the film that they

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did trying to teach people that the communal streaming service

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going to the movie theater. I loved that video so much.

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I didn't know if that was the Smigel piece. I

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felt like it might have been, but again, feels like

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a cone and piece, but elevated and pop culturized for

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that audience. I love that segment.

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No, everything just fantastic. All right, So going down my

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chronological so at some point he prancis the stage. Yeah,

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we've covered that. I felt when he started bantering with

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Timothy Shalla may is when he got comfortable, and then physically,

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I felt like Conan knew he had the room, now

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that the room had his back, that this wasn't going

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to be Letterman two or whatever other oscars we want

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to talk about. He knew he had the room. So

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now he's more confident and he's now he's just throwing fastballs.

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Yeah, and again keeping it very very One of the

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things that I loved about this is that Conan has

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clearly interacted with these stars and these megastars forever, because

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he's got this level of comfort with these people, whether

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it's perceived and it's just because of how professional he is,

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or because he actually has a relationship with some of

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these people. Like it was seamless going from the opening

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Hullabaloo to then bringing out Robert Downey Junior. Again, they

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really started this thing by throwing fastballs somewhere over the rainbow,

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but then the main song Unlimited, from which it was

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just absolutely like, how do you top that? She came

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in and they absolutely belted it out. It was perfect.

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Conan does his opening, he lands it, and then he

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brings out Robert Downey Junior. I love the best supporting

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act way that he did, the best supporting actor. How

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he get to monologue about every single one of the performances.

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And again, this is arguably you talk about pop culture

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in the modern times, one of the coolest guys out

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there generationally. And this is where, again I want to

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know how much input there was, because it was just

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a perfect thing to do. It was like follow this, now,

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follow this. They started at a very high level.

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All right, well, come back and we'll talk about my

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friend and yours. Adam Sandler.

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Oh, I'm cool. I can't wait to talk to you

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about this. Yeah, very much a Conan bit. By the way, again,

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just like lift goal, very much a Conan bit with

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one of Conan's people. I know you're not a huge

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out of Sadler bit, and I saw your reaction to

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it last night, so I'm the happy, optimistic Canadian up here.

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I was charmed by it, I really was. I thought

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it was borderline brave to do what they did with

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Sandler in the audience with the hoodie and the microphone

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and allowing him to just be Adam Sandler. You didn't

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think it landed.

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I know that I'm in the minority here. I understand

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the guy has a ton of money. We were supposed

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to take a break here, hold on, we'll be right back. Okay,

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all right, Mike's got the giggles here. He apparently really

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likes Adam Sandler. Look, I'm obviously wrong. Adam Sandler has

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more money than anybody. He has all these successful films.

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In whatever Hall of Fame we're going to make, he's

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going to be in it. I just I think he's

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a fantastic dramatic actor.

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Uncut.

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Jebs is a great film, and he did that to

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show off that he can act. So please do more

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of that. The recent thing, I don't know what was called,

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the thing where he was in the spaceship with the alien.

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He's really good in that. That was really good. Do

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more of that, please, But that bit last night where

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he's in the audience and he's dressed like quote unquote

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Adam Sandler and Conan's giving him the business, it wasn't funny.

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Now the rest of the Internet found it funny. The

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rest of the Internet is gonna go see Happy Gilmore

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and say it was the funniest thing. I obviously just

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don't get it, but you liked it.

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To me, it was very much a Conan bit and

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Adam Sandler, like him or don't like him, A lister

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like he's in. He's one of these. He's one of

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these A listers that in previous Oscars hosts have fun

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with some of these people. You know, growing up with

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Jack Nicholson many times is in the front road, he's

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smiling with the sunglasses or whatever. This is Conan's version

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of that. In my opinion, not saying that Adam Sandler

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is Jack Nicholson, but he's an A list star and

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it's very much on Brent. It's a mashup of the

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Oscars in Conan O'Brien's sensibility and friends. As far as

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I'm concerned.

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Somebody mentioned I think also on Threads Sandler would be

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a good choice to host the Oscars. He's got the chops.

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We've seen he can do the sentimental again. The guy's talented.

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I just don't find some of the artistic choices he

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makes to be funny. But he's got a toolbox. I

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just wish he would use different tools. I think he'd

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be fantastic hosting the Oscars.

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Oh, Adam Sandler could absolutely knock the ball out of

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the park when it comes to that. He's got again

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the collaboration that he has at his fingertips with people.

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I think would be really special for something like that

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to pivot a little bit again, staying in the vein

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of Conan and his friends and people he admires and whatnot.

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What point did you notice that Nick Offerman was the

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announcer for the Oscars. I thought that was I don't

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know if it was after the first commercial break or whatever.

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I'm like, I think that's I said to Candy, I

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think that's Nick Offferman. And then of course he comes

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in later for a bit even better. But what a bold,

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fantastic choice for the announcer for the Oscars having Nick

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Goferman there.

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I think I had the same timeline as you around

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the second commercial break, because I was like, wait, I

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know that voice. That's Nick Offerman, because I recognized his

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particular delivery as the character of the president from the

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movie Civil War. He was doing that kind of read

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and then I couldn't get that out of my head.

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I kept picturing that very serious Nick Offerman president doing

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the VOS so yeah, around the same time, I did

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Google just to make sure before they did the one

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minute bit. I'll play that here for people who missed it.

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This is Conan O'Brien's first time hosting the Oscars.

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That is true in a culture, it is all about.

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A lot of pressure.

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Not really, I've hosted a lot of shows, Emmy Awards,

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Music Awards.

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Well nothing this big, Nick, do me a favorite.

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Please stop interrupting.

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Okay, okay, guy, just trying to help, all.

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Right, Fine, the movies we honor tonight, explore the.

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Challenge this big, coming so late in one's career, must

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weigh on a man's soul.

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That's enough.

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Just write the script I gave you.

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He's one of the great comedians of our time.

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Conan O'Brien, perfect, Thank you our OSCAR announcer, Nick Offerman,

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Thank you, Nick. Fantastic clip.

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Just so much fun.

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Right, it was great that.

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And little nuds throughout the night. Again, I'm a huge

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Amy Poehler fan, and the idea that Nick got to

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have a little bit of fun with Amy Pohler was there.

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Just yeah, again, this is that collaboration I was talking about.

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Conan brought our version, that the audience's version of his people.

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You think about some of these people that he you

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would have say with Conan O'Brien. All over the show.

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People on the internet were losing their mind that the

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announcer got Amy Poehler's name wrong, which was doubly funny

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to me, Just so good. What things you gotta be

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in on the joke?

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Yep? All right.

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So at the end of the monologue he goes into

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a musical piece called I won't waste time. I'll throw

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the ball to you.

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I think anybody who's been a long time Conan O'Brien

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fan knows his experience with The Simpsons and the idea

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of the mono rail song, and I think a lot

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of people were hoping that Conan would get his monorail

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song moment he did. I don't think it was too long.

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I think it felt fairly short to me, and I

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thought that he did a very good job of it,

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and to me, that itch for a mono rail song

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type presentation was completely scratched at that moment, and I

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was grinning ear to ear.

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I think I suffered from Montareel syndrome that especially because

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he had some sort of stick cane something in his hands,

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and my brain was just like Montoreil, Montoreel, and I

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needed mono rail level and this song was not montail

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level or boy, that's a high bar. So I came

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away from the song a little disappointed. It might be

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one of those things if I rewatched the Oscars seven times,

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that it might grow on me over time. But last night,

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in the moment, I was like, but it was good.

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Yeah, oh yeah, but to me necessary it's again mashing

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up that cone in sensibility with this time honored tradition.

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In my viewpoint, the ouscers typically have a presentation like this.

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Sometimes it lands, sometimes it doesn't. If you're gonna stay

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with the traditional and you're gonna make that happen, this

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is a Conan way to do it. And again, I

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gotta be very like, I liked the length of it.

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It felt short to me, and I think that's very

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important because it could have been a one note joke.

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There were a lot of things that could have been

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one note jokes that surprised me because they flower, they

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had a blooming and then a second blooming and it

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actually came out that one actually did for me. It

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held my attention the whole time.

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Can you bring Conan back and stay with me here?

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So if you went back to say, Jimmy Kimmel, now

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you're going down the middle straight host, he does a

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fine job. Nobody complains that Jimmy Kimmel hostly. Somebody can

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about everything, but for the most part, Jimmy Kimo hosted

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the Oscars. People aren't like, what that's crazy. If you

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go back to the Conan, well, now we kind of

453
00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:09.680
know what it does. Okay, he's gonna come out and

454
00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:11.279
he's gonna do some quirky stuff. I wonder if he'll

455
00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.799
do a song. Does the conanness of it wear off

456
00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.279
if he hosts it two, three, five times? Do you

457
00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.119
need more of a traditional Kimmel style host?

458
00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:22.960
And I wasn't sure if we were going to jump

459
00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:24.759
around or not, but we have a little bit like

460
00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:27.319
the when he brought out Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan

461
00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:31.920
at the end and he reminded the audience about Billy

462
00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:36.799
Crystal's dominance hosting this show. You talk with these people

463
00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:38.759
who are at the tippy top. Billy Crystal at the

464
00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:41.880
very tippy top of Oscar hosts, and how Billy would

465
00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:44.039
reinvent himself when he would do it, and he would

466
00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:45.839
do it, maybe take a year off and Letterman comes

467
00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:47.559
in and then Billy comes back. I think that's how

468
00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:49.240
it went. I think Billy had done it before and

469
00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:53.640
after Letterman and the idea that Conan could come back

470
00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:58.000
and he's surrounded with Mike Sweetey and Robert Smigel and

471
00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:01.400
all of these collaborators. That's the beauty of having a

472
00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:05.480
late night host do this, somebody who literally did the

473
00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:08.880
same thing every night, and their charge was to make

474
00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:11.759
it original and fresh and funny as much as they

475
00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.079
possibly could. If you got a year in between, with

476
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.759
all of the comedy goal that comes from the year

477
00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.200
of those movies that were there, I think absolutely there's

478
00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.839
no question that Conan could come back and keep it

479
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:27.000
fresh as early as next year. Could he do six

480
00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:28.599
or seven in a row. It might be like the

481
00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:30.200
Billy Crystal thing where he takes a year or two

482
00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.640
often then comes back. But I think he could do

483
00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:36.920
two more years of this, just using the movies of

484
00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:41.039
the day as the backdrop for the new comedy that

485
00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:43.839
comes out with that same framework. That we've been talking about.

486
00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:45.759
I absolutely think he could do it again.

487
00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:49.079
Do you think we're at a peak Conan moment right now?

488
00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:51.440
And there's been a few over the decades, but I

489
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:53.720
think today, on this Monday as a peak Conan moment.

490
00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:58.000
Could you see Netflix or more likely in HBO Max

491
00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.880
taking the millennium route and going pretty good at TV?

492
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.119
You want to be way of these here's some cash?

493
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.079
Or is the guy in the sixties, he's got a podcast,

494
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.240
He's got enough money. You're just gonna be competing against

495
00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:12.079
your past selves. The same question we had about Dave.

496
00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:13.759
Is there even a reason to do it at this point?

497
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:16.359
I remember when he talked about leaving the Late Night

498
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:19.680
Show as not the franchise itself, but actually the genre

499
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:21.440
and what he was gonna do, and the deal that

500
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:23.720
he had signed with HBO or Max whatever it was.

501
00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:26.000
The idea of the travel show made so much sense

502
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:28.759
Conan without borders. Yeah, let's keep doing those. If we

503
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:31.039
get a few of those a year, we're satisfied. But

504
00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:33.559
then the other thing was the idea of the sketch show.

505
00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:36.519
And I mean, that's been very quiet about that. That

506
00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:39.640
to me would be I was so curious about what

507
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:41.839
that was gonna look like. Would it be you know,

508
00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:44.759
Lauren Michael's new show, or would it be something that

509
00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:47.839
is entirely Conan to me and Canadian think the kids

510
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:49.559
in the hall, Like, the kids in the hall are perfect,

511
00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:51.680
and they're so quirky, and there aren't that many of

512
00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:54.079
them compared to say something like Saturday Night Live. I

513
00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:56.319
wanted to see Conan do that. And if you're gonna

514
00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.359
talk about backing up a brinkstruck and giving him free

515
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:03.119
rein to do something, I love that idea. But once

516
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.400
a year to do the Oscars too. Oh my, you

517
00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.480
could tell that the Again, I talk about the idea

518
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:10.880
that my wife cooks with love and that's our intangible ingredient.

519
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:13.119
This show was made with a lot of comedy love.

520
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.279
Oh yeah. So I think part of the matrix here

521
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:20.119
is and I'm projecting like in my own career and

522
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:23.119
I'm obviously not at all famous. I'm just some dude,

523
00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.839
but I've had points in my career between gigs where

524
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.240
i would feel like, oh, I used to be John McDermott.

525
00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:32.559
People used to take John McDermott's calls. But being entertainment

526
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:35.880
adjacent when you have a big fancy title. People take

527
00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:38.799
your calls and when you were a dude in the

528
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:41.720
basement podcasting, some people take your calls because they were

529
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:43.880
true friends. And some people have no use for you anymore,

530
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:47.119
so they don't take your calls. So, for Conan, is

531
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.680
the podcast enough or is it at?

532
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:48.799
Oh?

533
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:50.759
At some point I used to be Conan O'Brien. At

534
00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:52.799
some point I used to be David Letterman. Now Johnny

535
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.480
Carson was fine being its. I used to be Johnny

536
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:59.640
Carson and went away. Dave seems good. Does Conan need it?

537
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.039
Or is once a year enough? Is the podcast enough

538
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:05.000
or never again enough? Or would a Netflix thing be intrigued?

539
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:05.160
Oh?

540
00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:08.519
Look at the name of his documentary, outlining the period

541
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.279
between when he lost the Tonight Show and when he

542
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:12.279
started the TVs show. What's the title of it? ConA.

543
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:15.240
Brian can't stop. And I truly believe that he can't stop.

544
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:17.880
I think he's at the place now where he's lucky

545
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:19.599
enough to say, this is what I'm going to do,

546
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:21.640
These are the things that I'm going to be a

547
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:26.079
part of in my infinite energy for these things. To me,

548
00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.200
that was a guy who was energized, did not need

549
00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:32.680
to my as a fanboy, like, oh, wouldn't it be

550
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:34.440
cool if Kimmel or Letterman or some of these other

551
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.400
people who hosted in the past were there were not

552
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:38.960
you know, he could reference some of these things and

553
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.279
make that's the fanboy and me coming out. But then

554
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.359
I see the presentation of him going up there and going, oh, no, no, no, no, no,

555
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.440
he is I said it. I think I might have

556
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.000
said it on this show too. When he went back

557
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:52.160
to The Tonight Show earlier this year or in twenty

558
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:53.960
twenty four, he came back as a guest of The

559
00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.599
Tonight Show, and my first response was he seems way

560
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.759
bigger than the show. Conan seems way bigger, and his

561
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.559
podcasting dominance, I think is one of those things where

562
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.799
people will continually pick up the phone because, yeah, you

563
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:09.759
do want to be on Conan's podcast, like you wanted

564
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:12.839
to be on the late night shows before the dilution

565
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:14.720
of the audience the way that they did. I think

566
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.119
people want to be on his podcast for that reason,

567
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:20.079
and that keeps him relevant right there. But I do

568
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:22.920
believe the Conan O'Brien name is big enough that he

569
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.559
will always be relevant. Now he is, He's a giant

570
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:28.960
he really is. Last night was for many people. I

571
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.000
think just like the Emmy's back in the day. I

572
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:32.440
think that the Emmy's back in the day when he

573
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.519
hosted that surprised a lot of people. I felt like

574
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:39.559
that same level of surprise might be happening to a

575
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.880
lot of people out there, going, Oh, Conan's still around.

576
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:44.200
For those of us who still love this stuff and

577
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:46.960
listen to his podcast, we're like he never left and

578
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.079
he's only getting better with age.

579
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.200
It's interesting that you go from being underground and an

580
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.160
acquired taste to a day like today as mainstream as

581
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:56.799
it gets.

582
00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.880
Absolutely absolutely something else. I want to note there was

583
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.039
a moment when Kimmel hosted I think it was last year,

584
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.440
where he made a real time Donald Trump joke. It

585
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.559
was during the performance, and it was something that had

586
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.640
happened during and he made a reaction a joke, a

587
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:16.160
reaction joke during the actual Oscars, and I forget the

588
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.240
joke whatever. I was wondering if Conan was going to

589
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.119
have any real time type moments where there would be

590
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:23.200
stuff that would carry through the show, and the idea

591
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.240
of when the Latvian crew for Flow won their first

592
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.440
Oscar they talked about that and Cona's response, your Move Estonia,

593
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.279
and then he called back that your Move Estonia a

594
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.279
couple of times throughout the show, which I thought kept

595
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.799
it fresh. To go back to that point, the idea

596
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:41.799
that it wasn't just a canned performance, that it was

597
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.559
a live thing where he could also show his improvisation

598
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:48.359
chops as the show moved flowed through. I thought that

599
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:50.960
was a really neat addition to the program as well.

600
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.400
It's hard to make those editorial choices. You want to

601
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.240
live in the real world. You have to deal with

602
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.160
things that are obvious, for example, the La wildfire. Yes,

603
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:04.279
if you start getting into American politics these days, you're

604
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.359
going to lose half the audience whichever direction you steer

605
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:09.920
that conversation. If you get into the Middle East, you're

606
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.319
going to lose half the people, depending on which way

607
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.799
you steer that conversation. We can get into the ridiculous

608
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.480
relationship America and Canada have right now. I'm glad you

609
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:20.839
and I are still getting along. These are just places,

610
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:23.599
much like the Michael Jackson reference, let's just not go

611
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:25.680
there and do something else. And I've gotten into this

612
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:30.480
in my career. That's not censorship. That's choosing differently. I'm

613
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:34.200
going to choose to not ask you about the fifty

614
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.640
first state today. It's not why you're here. We're here

615
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:39.839
to talk about Conan O'Brien. Maybe some other time I'll

616
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:42.880
ask you about that topic, but it's not why you're here.

617
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.880
So I don't need to go there. You possibly have

618
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:49.599
some views on geopolitics, it's not why you're here, so

619
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.039
I don't need my audience going. You know, I really

620
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.599
like that Mike from the Letterman podcast. He was really cool,

621
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.799
but I totally disagree with his take on X and

622
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.519
now everyone or half the people dislike you because it's

623
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.079
not what the show is. So I think it was

624
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.599
a smart decision, yep, not to do it now. As

625
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.759
for the speeches, if you get up there and you

626
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.319
get your time I like when people get up there

627
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.000
and use their time to you know, you get a platform,

628
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:15.079
use it. I think that's a good thing. And I

629
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.559
don't think that's contradictory to what I just said. One

630
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.039
of the questions I have from the production standpoint is

631
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:23.799
rushing people off the stage. What are we rushing to?

632
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.240
Are we we just rushing to the American Idol Special

633
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:31.640
or the eleven fifteen PM News. Let people have their moments,

634
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.440
like at some point, okay, you gotta stop, but like

635
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.920
forty five second clocks, especially when multiple people have won

636
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.000
an award. Let people have their moment. It's why we're here.

637
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.759
I the more I see him do things, the more

638
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.680
I enjoy Adrian Brody and some of his antics. He

639
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.839
does have antics, the infamous snl antic when he introduced

640
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:54.400
the musical guest addressed in Rastafarian with a Jamaican accent,

641
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:57.799
and things like that. During his acceptance speech, the idea

642
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.720
where I've done this before, I'm gonna keep talking here,

643
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.319
do not play me off, and then after the thingk

644
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.960
he did actually give what I thought to be Sometimes

645
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.079
these socially conscious messages are out of touch. I thought

646
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.880
his was actually really good. It was universal. I don't

647
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.640
think it was walking Phoenix talking about private jets. I

648
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.279
didn't think it was like that. I thought he did

649
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.200
a good job with it. Some of the people who

650
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.480
would come up and be out of sorts, like it

651
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.279
was the winners for Flow. I think that had the

652
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:29.920
phone and they read the speech and it was Yeah.

653
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:32.839
I like allowing moments like that to unfold and to

654
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.039
breathe because they can then become something else, and if

655
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.400
they run the ship so tight that it can't. I

656
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.119
don't even know how over the telecast went. I know

657
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.440
we always record the next show on the DVR as well,

658
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:47.480
and I think we watched maybe ten minutes into the

659
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.480
American Idol show. I think that was if there was

660
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:51.640
an overrun there. I think it was only about ten

661
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.440
to fifteen minutes. I don't think it was that long,

662
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:55.559
but they were making fun of themselves all night for

663
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.599
it being so long, so I didn't care. I didn't mind.

664
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.440
They acknowledged it. And when you allow moments like that

665
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.599
to happen, to me, that's a better trade off and

666
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.119
it feels like you're getting something special rather than something canned.

667
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.880
As part of the leadup, Conan actually said he was

668
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.759
hoping something would go sideways because that's where the magic is.

669
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.680
He's so right every time. Why do we love Letterman

670
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.119
so much? Because whenever something went sideways, Now it's a

671
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.680
new show. Now it's something else where, uncharted territory, and

672
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.039
nobody knows where it's going to go, including the producers

673
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.839
of the show themselves, And to me, that's one of

674
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.640
the magical feelings that that Letterman brought to us and Conan.

675
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.599
That was one of the ingredients the bones that Conan

676
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.119
continued with the Late Night with Conan O'Brien franchise that

677
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.039
they took from Late Night with David Letterman, And sometimes

678
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.720
they would plan these moments again to go back to

679
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.920
a Conan bit, a very Conan bit, the dune sandworm

680
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.680
funny the first time, as a Conan bit funny the

681
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:50.799
second time. Because it's like that thing was so expensive,

682
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.759
we had to use it twice and I just, oh,

683
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.240
what a perfect Conan bit. And it wasn't unpredictable necessarily,

684
00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.480
but at the same time, it was a little bit.

685
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:01.440
It was the him out of Pewe's Playhouse, I guess

686
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:02.480
I would say, yeah.

687
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:04.920
And it just shows you the when things go sideways,

688
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.720
the value of a quarterback, whether it's Conan or Dave

689
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:11.240
in his element or a Kimmel. I was speaking with

690
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.680
my wife over the weekend about the Will Smith incident

691
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.400
and a few years later here in everyone's mind, I

692
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.920
think everybody thinks Chris Rock hosted the Oscars that year.

693
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.920
He didn't. He just happened to be there when things

694
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.720
went sideways. And recovered pretty nicely. And I don't think

695
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:31.359
the trio of hosts that year really stood out when

696
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:35.720
things went sideways. There's another situation where the slap happens

697
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.559
and now we throw the ball back to Conan. That

698
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:39.799
gets handled a lot differently.

699
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.839
I think I could not agree more. That's somebody that

700
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.039
you want to be the host of that show. I

701
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.039
remember Chris Rock hosting the MTV Video Awards when I

702
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.119
was growing up. I consider Chris Rocker host that the

703
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.519
year of the slab was that was that Amy Schumer?

704
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.039
That that was Amy Humor that hosted it.

705
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.559
Which which again my audience. So we've been talking about

706
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.359
Amy a lot lately. If I walked up to you

707
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.279
and I said, Hey, who's hosting the twenty twenty sis

708
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.839
Oscars is Amy Schumer? Wouldn't you think?

709
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:03.599
What?

710
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:03.759
What?

711
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.079
Yep? Yeah, one hundred percent? And you're right, that's a

712
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.400
good example of a show being on rails, never mind

713
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.799
how the host has reaction reacted. All that show was

714
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.319
so on rails that Will Smith Gott could could slap

715
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:18.119
Chris Rock and then be celebrated like an hour later

716
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:19.839
when he went up at That show was very on

717
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.400
rails compared to last Night's did not seem that way.

718
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.640
It did seem fresh and unpredictable. And yes we're acknowledging

719
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.200
that it's long. Conan made a Stockholm joke, a Stockholm

720
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.799
syndrome joke about that. It felt unpredictable, and I think

721
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.880
that the late night hosts many times bringing I think

722
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.000
Kimmel brought that feeling when he hosted as well. I

723
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.039
think Billy Crystal when he hosted the show back in

724
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.559
the day and did it such a masterful job of it,

725
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.480
brought a little bit of that. But the late night

726
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.039
hosts bring a special version of that because that's their brand,

727
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:47.720
that's what they do.

728
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:50.519
So last thought for me, I'm gonna hop in the

729
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.839
time machine. I'm going to go back to the Wednesday

730
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.279
of Conan's first week as the host of Late Night,

731
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.440
and I'm going to tell everybody in thirty years, this

732
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.480
guy's going to the Oscars and crush it.

733
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.160
I think would not be surprised by that. Some of

734
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.920
the people who I was just talking to George Meyer

735
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:11.039
this week, and George is a legend comedy legendary comedy writer.

736
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:14.400
We were talking about the Lauren Michael's book. He talked

737
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:18.960
about the moment that Conan was vying for Late Night,

738
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.679
and originally the idea was that he would be might

739
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.199
be a head writer, one of the head honchos for it,

740
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:26.800
and nobody considered him host. George was one of the

741
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:30.159
guys that said to him, hold out for the host job.

742
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.320
This is when Conan O'Brian was a writer for The Simpsons.

743
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:36.239
They've got the Harvard Alum National Lampoon background together just

744
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:40.239
from different eras a little bit. George saw it because

745
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.480
he would see Conan putting on these shows for the

746
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.159
other Simpsons writers and how special of a talent he was.

747
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.440
The idea of replacing David Letterman. Yeah, I'm gonna be

748
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:53.000
on part of Late Night, this new this franchise that

749
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.920
David Letterman built, and we're going to be continued at NBC.

750
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.920
Somebody actually says to this, not to put any pun

751
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:03.000
into this show, but a complete unknown and saying no

752
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.119
hold out for the host job. That's a ridiculous thing

753
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.199
to say to someone like that. But George and people

754
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.599
who were around Conan on a small scale back then,

755
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.280
I think could say thirty years from now, this guy

756
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.280
could be hosting the Oscars. I think that there were

757
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:19.400
elements of him. Again, I think the Conan who was

758
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.000
at Late Night that signed the five year deal. The

759
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.239
reason the five year deal existed was because of the

760
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.559
Conan we saw last night. That was the Conan that

761
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.280
did host the Emmys. Back then, that holding deal that

762
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.880
NBC signed with him was because they did not want

763
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.199
to lose this giant talent. And how many years later

764
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:36.880
are we go ash he signed that deal and what

765
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.239
five twenty years ago? He was that big and people

766
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.519
saw it that much twenty years later. Conan's a smart investment.

767
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.000
Such a bolds pick back in the day. Why not

768
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:49.519
just hands twelve thirty to Gary Shandling or somebody like that.

769
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:53.639
And just kudos to everybody involved in making that decision

770
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.239
for being able to recognize the talent he is.

771
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.360
And again he's that. I listened to his podcast all

772
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.320
the time. It's so natural to me to listen to

773
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.960
that show. I enjoyed watching Conan. My golden age for

774
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.719
late night television was when Late Show was on, then

775
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.519
Late Show with Craig Ferguson and Conan either at the

776
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.159
Tonight Show or his TBS show. He transitioned over to

777
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.960
podcasting so seamlessly and can do these things. The Travel

778
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.039
Show again a very different kind of a show, so

779
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.400
seamlessly and again hosting the Oscars things. I am not

780
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.760
surprised that it went that well. I'm just so happy

781
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.159
that it went that well. It was a delight to watch.

782
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.280
Sometimes these things are a pain in the ass to watch.

783
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.519
Not last night. This was a delight to watch.

784
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.239
All Right, if I'm going to work an extra hour,

785
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:37.599
let me take one more break so I can make

786
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.760
twenty more backs. Get back with Mike Chisholm from The

787
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.840
Letterman Podcast. All right, Mike, thank you for taking the

788
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.239
extra time here with me today. What's coming up on

789
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:48.039
the Letterman Podcast. We've got a couple of it's up

790
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:49.599
in the air a little bit. I'll tell you something

791
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.280
that's coming along that. So there's a I look at

792
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.800
him as a legendary Letterman writer. His name Steve Weiner.

793
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.079
Steve wrote for the first year of Late Night with

794
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.840
David Letterman, and he is responding for some of the

795
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:03.679
bones of that show. The idea of Dave throwing something

796
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:05.639
behind him, whether it's a card or a pencil, going

797
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.039
through the window and having the glass break. That was

798
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.719
Steve's joke. The other thing that Steve, I would say,

799
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:13.760
and Steve added a couple of things that went the

800
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.800
entire run, but one of them was a guy by

801
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.599
the name of Calvert DeForest. Larry bud Melman, Steve and

802
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.280
his writing partner actually are the ones that discovered him,

803
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.199
and they had him in their NYU film called King

804
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:27.400
of the Z's. There's a version of King of the

805
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.440
Z's that's actually really clean. Steve's gonna come on the show.

806
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.519
We're gonna talk about the Oscars. Our good friend Rick

807
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:36.039
Scheckman passed away two years ago this week, so we're

808
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.760
gonna talk about him as well. But then also we're

809
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.280
going to talk about King of the Z's and we're

810
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.519
gonna do a separate episode where we actually go through

811
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:48.079
Calvert to Forest's one of his inaugural performances. Together. We're

812
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:49.280
gonna do I don't know if it's gonna be a

813
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.360
commentary or mystery science theater, how we're gonna do it,

814
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.079
but that's gonna be coming out here soon. So that's

815
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.400
pretty exciting. I think Mordy is coming back on the

816
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:58.280
show again soon. We're gonna start celebrating the ten year

817
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.920
anniversary of Dave leaving show with David Letterman. So lots

818
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:03.920
of good stuff coming up on the Letterman Podcast, and

819
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:05.639
we're gonna have you back too, because you're one of

820
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:06.400
my favorite guests.

821
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.000
I appreciate that you're one of my favorite guests and

822
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.400
one of the two people that can book if you

823
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:13.599
have you and Larry the Cable Guy, if you have

824
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.719
access to Smigel. I'm trying to get to Smiggle for real.

825
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:20.000
I want to find out about Night of Too Many Stars.

826
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.639
I want to learn more about what the cause is.

827
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.760
And I explain this on my show that I don't

828
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:26.280
mean it and a like, so where does the money go?

829
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:27.800
I mean, like, where's the money go? Like, you guys

830
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.400
are doing a cool thing here, tell me more about it.

831
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:30.880
So if you could put a bug in somebody's ear,

832
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.960
I would appreciate that. I like doing these crossovers with you.

833
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.519
I know from seeing on Facebook we've both picked up

834
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:39.960
people who didn't know about the opposite show. So I

835
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.400
think this is a good thing. You're always a great guest.

836
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:44.760
And as soon as I put it together, we were

837
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.480
texting about something else that I was like, Oh, I

838
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.599
should probably just ask you. Now I'm gonna wind up

839
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:51.159
wanting to talk to you about Codin, so we actually

840
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.679
booked it in advance for one So thank you for

841
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:53.679
coming on today anytime.

842
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.079
I couldn't agree more. I love the crossover shows as well.

843
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:58.719
I do have people who are like, we're one degree

844
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.920
away from Robert for sure. I'll definitely see if we

845
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.639
can get something going there. And yeah, thanks for everything

846
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.719
that you do. Thanks for this show. Actually, I was

847
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.559
just talking to the Late Nighter dot com founder about

848
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.320
you and your show, and I just I cannot endorse

849
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.079
it enough. The idea of catching up with all of

850
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.320
the major events within comedy and doing it in a

851
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.880
very concise way. It's so easy to digest your show,

852
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.360
unlike mine. So thank you very much for everything that

853
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:22.880
you guys do.

854
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.760
Thanks for coming on. That is a bonus episode. Tomorrow

855
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.519
another normal episode, a lot of stuff that got bumped

856
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:32.000
from Monday. South By Southwest chose to announce their comedy

857
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.400
lineup in the middle of a weekend of Shane Gillis

858
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.039
hosting SNL and Conan hosting the Oscars. A lot to

859
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.559
talk about tomorrow, See you then,