June 9, 2025

Dave Chappelle's Summer Shows PLUS Is Mulaney's talk show OVER?

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac discusses the return of Dave Chappelle's summer shows and a conversation between Chappelle and Mo Amer about their experiences and challenges during the COVID-19 pandemic and the recent Writers Guild strike. The episode also covers Theo Von's comments on Palestine, John Mulaney's uncertain future with Netflix, and insights on the late-night show circuit, including Seth Meyers and Brett Goldstein's anecdotes. The episode concludes with a story about Jeff Garlin walking out on a comedy dinner perhaps due to a payment dispute.

00:00 Dave Chappelle's Summer Shows
00:23 Mo Amer and Dave Chappelle's Conversation
02:14 Theo Von's Take on Palestine
02:58 John Mulaney's Netflix Show Speculations
06:07 Seth Meyers on Hosting Late Night
08:10 Brett Goldstein's Journey to Ted Lasso
11:05 Jeff Garland's Comedy Dinner Walkout

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Callaroga Shark Media been air. I'm Johnny Mack with your

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daily comedy news. Dave Chappelle is doing his hometown summer

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shows again. Dave Chappelle's Summer Camp is a summer tradition.

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It's back for its fifth year. He'll do three summer

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weekends at the Weird Pavilion weekend of July second to

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third and fifth, so no show on the fourth, and

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then August fourteen, fifteen sixteen, and August twenty one, twenty two,

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twenty three. The Hollywood Reporter put Chappelle and Moa. Mayer

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together for a conversation. Dave says, of Mo, we spent

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all the summer of twenty twenty together doing shows. The

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best comedians of the world flew in Ohio and we

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had a blast. Moe recalls it was so nerve wracking

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because everything was so unsettling. It was COVID, it was

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civil unrest, it was my own personal stuff, and every

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one of my writers was juggling things emotionally. He was

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really overwhelming, But you, Dave, really saved my life. I'm

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sure that a lot of people fell that way because

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we weren't working. You gave us an outlet so the

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story here. Moe was invited to participate in Actors on Actors,

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and he suggested speaking with Dave Chappelle. Chappelle said, as

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you know, I notoriously don't like to do press, but

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I wouldn't have missed today because it's used. So Dave

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flew from Ohio to LA and said, there's an elephant

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in the room. You got a deal at Netflix to

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produce a show, and then Riser's starting production on season

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two October seventh happened, and this is something that you're

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going to have to address artistically or not. And I

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was curious about what's the process of going through that.

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By some weird accident, you found yourself being a solo

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Palestinian voice at a very critical time in human history.

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Moe explained. I started writing season two in April of

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twenty three. Then the writers Guild went on strike. We

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came back in October six days later. All hell breaks loose,

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and particularly my writing room. Since the show centered around

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a Palestinian family and impacted it significantly, it caused us

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to have a tremendous amount of debate in the writing

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room itself. Chappelle was curious where the pressure comes from family, friends, bosses,

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most said more so from the fans of the public

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said I'm the only guy that's Palestinian. It was a

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show that centered around the Palestinian family. The pressure around

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that was a minute. There were so many phone calls

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and people pressuring me to speak right away. Literally October eighth,

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I noticed everybody was yelling at each other. No one

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was actually listening to one another. And I think it's

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really important to understand what's happening before you speak out.

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It's really necessary to know what you're talking about. I've

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aween my art form as a refuge what it allows

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me to be myself and express myself. Outside of that,

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it feels unnatural to me at the moment. I had

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a long conversation there along those lines while we're solving

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a peace in the Middle East here on Daily Comedy News,

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THEO Vaughn has also addressed Palestine on his podcast. He

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called it a genocide. There's a clip going viral. It's

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from the May tenth episode of this past Weekend. In it,

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THEO says, feels to me like it's a genocide that's

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happening while we're alive. You see all these photos of

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people just children, women, people body parts, just putting their

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kids back together. I just can't believe we're watching that

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and that more isn't said about it. I didn't set

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out today to wait into any of this. As I

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put the show together and he could check the back catalog.

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Whoever the biggest comedian is, that's who gets the first story.

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So when I went into the Chappelle thing and saw

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that THEO, who's pretty big and would have been in

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the three spot today, was on the same subject, I

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put those two back to back. Had THEO spoken about

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something else, the number two story would have been this

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whole John Mullaney thing. Now, I had pointed out on

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this show, I'm getting up on my soapbox and doing

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the Hey, Johnny Mack told you I'm doing it. Hey,

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remember I told you this. Remember a couple of weeks ago,

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Robbie pro the head of Netflix Comedy, was like, yeah, Mallenie,

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yeah yeah, but like never said it was actually coming back.

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Then last week Mulaney was on Mark Marion's podcast and

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you know, said we're working things out. Late Nighter poked

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at this. Robbie Pra told Late Nighter Robbie again is

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head of Netflix comedy Every Wednesday for the last twelve

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weeks has been my favorite Wednesday. I think John is

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absolutely brilliant. That's nice. My ex girlfriend from college has

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nice hair. That's it. She's nice hair. So Late Nighter

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didn't accept that dodge and asked it, you know, are

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we gonna get any more of this show? Robbie prot says,

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I have nothing to elaborate on at this time, which

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is not yeah, we're working on season two right now,

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or yeah, twelve more episodes come out October twenty fourth,

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or yeah, we're working it out. John's touring this summer,

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which is trying to figure out the dates. You could

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have said any of that, but Prau said quote, I

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have nothing to elaborate on at this time. Prau also

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points out mulaney is an extremely, extremely busy man. It

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sounds like everybody has figured out that that show didn't

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work my opinion, and they're laying the groundwork to everyone

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to get out gracefully. I could see a future in

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which it's like, you know, working with John was great,

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but yeah, you know, he's got this sixteen month tour

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coming up, but he's got two young children and he's

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in a lot of demand and he might host some

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awards show how about you know, we love him here

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at Netflix, and we always have the door open for

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an upcomings, you know, that kind of spin that's coming.

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What's incredible to me about John is how quickly we

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saw the evolution of the show. To put on a

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program that feels different from Show one to Show twelve.

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In the old world of late night, that would be

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what two and a half weeks. I can't really envision

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who else could pull that off the way John did. Well,

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that's not really a fair comparison. You kick, pare twelve

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weekday shows to twelve weeks. You have to comp we

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are twelve weeks to twelve weeks, because if you're doing

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a daily show, like all right, we're done taving at

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six thirty and we have to get to work, and

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we have twenty three hours to put out another show,

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not one hundred and sixty seven hours to put out

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another show. So that's not a fair comparison at all.

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Robbie Prau, who I've worked with back at Just for Laughson,

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is a good guy. More from pra Vi e Late

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Night Er, which is a great website. I mean, we're

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calling it late night, but it's on streaming so it's

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available all the time. So to me, it really seems

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like a hybrid. It's a talk show. Part of it

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feels snl E. No it doesn't. I mean he wrestled

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fourteen year olds. That feels Andy KAUFMANI yes, he did

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the hype bit the night Letterman was on. That felt lettermany.

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Yes it did. The fact that he was out there

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doing these ten to twelve minute not topical monologues and

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that they're strong as they are is something mokes folks

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don't understand the level of difference and specialness. You have

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to have to achieve that. Sure, but I will tell

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you this, Give Jay Leno a week to come up

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with twelve minutes, he'll do it. But he did a

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show five days a week. And let's not pretend people

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don't have writers for us as The idea of producing

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the show live around the world wasn't necessarily a strategy

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to differ the show. To be honest, I don't think

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it's the thing that makes the show great personally. It's

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certainly exciting that it's live in the moment, but it

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really stands out as a great variety hour either way,

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That's how a lot of our members engage with it.

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You may recall Jimmy Kimmel Live was called Jimmy Kimmel

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Live because Jimmy Kimmel was Stay It with Me Live.

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The Holly Reporter caught up with Seth Meyers, who somehow

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has been hosting Late Night for eleven years now without

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really having any impact on society. They were curious, Seth,

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do you have a sense for what differentiates your show?

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Seth says, One thing I love hearing as I'll come

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backstage for first time guests and they'll say, everybody tells

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me this will be really fun, and that's great. Defeedback,

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I think is people like doing the show because they

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feel like it's a conversation. We don't ask some of them.

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It's just come and talk. It's a loose, good vibe.

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Host isn't in a suit. We have a nice green room. Well,

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I mean, if that alone isn't a reason to watch

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the show, they have a nice green room, says The

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one thing I was most wrong about is I thought

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politicians would be more interesting. I think it's very interesting

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to talk about politics. It's less interesting to talk to

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politicians and We've built a show where if the conversation's good,

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it's good TV, and it almost doesn't matter who it's with. Honestly,

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I think it's better to have a good conversation with

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an author than a bad conversation with an A list star.

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But that said, is it if more value if you

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have a good conversation with George Clooney? Of course, But

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if we realize there's someone who's a giant star is

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maybe better at being a giant star than they are

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being a talk show guest, that's great. We don't need

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to chase that person. In Carmel spoke to GQ about

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his weight loss and said, you know what the big

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difference for me was, I joined a gym. I can

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walk to the whole idea of getting in the car

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and finding parking and in LA often paying for parking.

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I took away as many hurdles as I could. There's

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a gym that's like a twenty five minute walk for me.

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Perfect it's podcast time. Maybe he listens to this podcast. Hi,

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And I also drink so much water because the other

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thing I feel with cravings is you have to try

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telling them and know in as many ways as you

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can throw whatever you can at them. I'm probably like

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a three to four apples a day guy. Doctors will

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tell you to keep it to two, but listen, it's

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that or Lasagnas. I'm doing the apples and I love blueberries.

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For me, that's a top tier berry. I think it's

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the most consistently good. I don't think it's the best

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berry at its best, but it's the best berry on average.

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Forgot to mention earlier. Seth's doing a lot of press

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and why I don't know why he's doing so much press.

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Conan's doing a lot of press too. At Eliza Slessengers

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doing a lot of press. I've noticed that aproprobe nothing

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just thought a chair doing comedy podcast and these things

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come to mind when I put the show together. At

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the ATX TV Festival in Austin, Brett Goldstein talked about

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his early collaboration with Scrubs creator Bill Lawrence. That was

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a project called spaced Out, also in that Donald Faison

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from Scrubs. It was basically a space themed workplace sitcom.

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Wheret Goldstein said, it was my second pilot season in

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la I'd gone and done a pilot for HBO the

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year before. There was really good, but didn't get picked up,

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and then it came back in an audition for Bill's

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new show. I love Bill because of Scrubs and I

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was excited to had Donald in it. The show was

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about a working class genius trying to integrate with a

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team of scientists building a Mars rocket. Goldstein said it

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was basically Scrubs set in a rocket factory. We called

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it space Turk. Laurence said it was not called it

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was canceled. Brett says, the thing that's awful about making TVs,

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we all felt on the set the pilot was really special.

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This is a thing so much that when Bill's producing partner,

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Jeff said goodbye to me, because you do the pilot

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and then you start shooting the rest of the season

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in August, he said to me, see you in August.

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So I started packing out my house. I sold my

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place in England, don't know. And then a month later

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it's not happening. I was like, where do I live? Yeah,

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I don't do that. That was a rookie mistake there,

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brick Oldstein. Years later, Bill Lawrence calls him about this

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show called ted Lasso. He called me completely out of

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the blue, and he said, I'm gona do this football show.

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You want to come right on it? And I said no,

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I've got a big stand up show booked. He said

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it starts next week and I was like, but I've

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got these stand up shows. Brett spoke to comedian Nish Kumar,

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who told him cancel the show. Cold Scene had another concern.

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He had developed a show, Soulmates for AMC. The Soulmates

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got picked up and I was like, ef Bill Lawrence

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said he was running Soulmates and we hired him as

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a writer on Lasso. He didn't know he was also

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going to be Roy Kent, but that was all Brett.

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We were writing. The party filmed an audition on his own.

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He sent it to us and he absolutely killed. Yeah,

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we've heard that story before where he just asked, Hey,

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can I just be Roy Kent and they said yeah.

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That's how I started hosting the show on Live One.

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The weekly comedy thing, by the way, I should plug

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that new episodes every Monday, kind of like this, except

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I talk a lot less. But I can also play

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comedy clips from comedians because of licensing and all that.

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So that's the weekly comedy thing on Live One. So

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when we were putting that show together, I was inspired

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by Phil Collins from Genesis. I've gone sideways here, let

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me back you up. So Peter Gabriel, musician Peter Gabriel,

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you've heard of him. He was the original singer for

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the band Genesis, and then he left and Genesis was

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looking for singers and they auditioned a bunch of people

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and then one day Phil Collins, who you've heard of,

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said can I just do it? And they were like, yeah, sure.

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So we were auditioning people for the weekly comedy thing

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and I was writing it, but no one was quite

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nailing the voice. And I eventually said can I do it?

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And I totally had Phil Collins stuck in my head

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for that, and they were like sure. So I started

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hosting that and then I had all these extra stories

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left over, and I'm like, I got to do something

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with these stories. So I created this podcast and here

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we are, and like anything else in life, I've been

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talking into a microphone almost every day for don eleven

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twelve years now, and you get better things. So thank

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you for listening. I digress. But that was the end

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of the Brett Goldstein story. Oh, I definitely want to

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stop off at Gossip Corner before we Go. Page six

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reported that Jeff Gorlan was scheduled to headline a comedy

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dinner at the Calabasas Country Club in SoCal last week. However,

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he allegedly walked out after discovering he'd be paid by check.

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Gorlan was reportedly promised listen to this number eight hundred

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dollars in cash, and was unhappy to learn at the

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venue intended to compensate him with a check instead. Let's

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just stop off there. So say you were on curb

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your enthusiasm for eleven years, You're going to headline a

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comedy dinner. How much do you think you would get paid?

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Apparently the number is eight hundred dollars. Wow. An insider

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told the Post the crowd was ticked, most of them

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come to see Jeff. Approximately forty people at the show.

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According to Calabasa's country club schedule, they frequently host events

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such as comedy nights and bingo. The Post says it's

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unclear why Garland walked out. A different source in form

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Page six that he likely didn't walk out due to

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financial reasons. They said, Jeff can be a very neurotic guy.

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I think I have it in my brain somewhere. I

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feel like when I was at Serious XM, I feel

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like we were talking with Jeff about maybe perhaps doing

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something I may have And again, I might just be

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making up this whole thing. I feel like I was

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on a call with Jeff and I haven't filed away

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in my brain that sometimes you jump on calls with

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people and you can tell people really want to do

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something and then we'll figure out the money later. And

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then sometimes you're on a call with someone and you

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feel like, oh, they think we have a lot of

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money because Howard Stern reportedly makes one hundred million dollars,

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so let me do a show on Sirius so I

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can make money. And it's more about the money than

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the idea. And I haven't filed away this conversation with

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Garland that I might just be imagining, but I think

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it happened, if I'm remembering correctly. I think I left

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that call going, oh, this isn't column B, that this

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is just like, hey, I heard this is the thing.

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When podcasting heated up a few years back, oh boy,

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a lot of people were out. Yeah, I'd like to

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do a podcast. All right, what do you want to do?

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I don't know, whatever you guys think, And it was like,

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you just want to be paid anyway. That's your comedy

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news for today, see tomorrow.