April 11, 2026

David Cross on Intimate Specials, Hannibal Buress’ Music, and Melbourne Comedy Festival Highlight

David Cross on Intimate Specials, Hannibal Buress’ Music, and Melbourne Comedy Festival Highlight
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Johnny Mac delivers Daily Comedy News, focusing on David Cross’ new special "The End of the Beginning of the End," his explanation of the title, preference for shooting in club/music-venue settings over theaters, thoughts on not overproducing specials, and how he balances his daughter’s childhood enjoyment with his film/voice roles. The episode also covers Hannibal Buress describing music as another writing format with a wider emotional range than constant comedy, Julio Torres jokingly advising a caller to coexist with a haunted cheap apartment, and Charlie Day being cast in the film "Golf Trip" about friends’ chaotic getaway with a dreaded single golfer. Joel Kim Booster shares his no-breakfast routine and snack habits, and the Melbourne International Comedy Festival segment spotlights TWabi Sabi Comedy" with a tram tap-card bit.

00:18 David Cross New Special
00:40 Club Specials And Audience
01:18 Parenting And Movie Roles
01:54 What Makes A Special
02:24 Hannibal Buress Music Writing
03:06 Julio Torres Haunted Rent
03:39 Charlie Day Golf Trip
04:02 Joel Kim Booster Food Habits
04:46 Melbourne Fest Wabi Sabi
05:18 Tram Tapping Comedy Clip


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Callaroga, Shark Media.

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And Air, and Johnny Mack with your Daily Comedy News,

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a daily briefing on stand up comedy comedians on the

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comedy industry. A sentence I can't remember unless I write

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it down, but the algorithm loves it. David Cross as

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a new special. It's called the End of the Beginning

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of the End, and the La Times was like, what

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does the end of the beginning of the End mean?

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David Cross explains, Well, you could look at it a

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couple different ways. To me, it signifies the beginning of

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the end has occurred, and we're now at the end

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of the beginning of the end. And from where you

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go with that, that's up for you to decide. The

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La Times likes that this special shot in a club.

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Cross that I've shot specials in theaters and it's just different,

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not that one's better than the other, they're just different.

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You have a different relationship with the audience. When I

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first started touring, I'd go to music venues and I'd

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have a band open up for me. Then I'd just

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go up and pretty much perform as long as I

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could until I had to pee, sometimes out of a band,

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playing sometimes two bands, then I'd go. I did that

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a couple times and stopped doing that, and then did theaters,

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and I decided for the last two specials, want to

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shoot it, I'll go to a music venue. I was

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at the forty Walk Club in Athens last time. I

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was at the Metro in Chicago before that, both places

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I played on earlier tours. And you know, it's not seated.

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People are standing there at the stage, and I preferred

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it's more fun. It's not as lucrative, but it's a

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more fun show to do. Cross talked about his movie

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roles and if his daughter has seen anything. He said,

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I don't actively shield her, but I don't introduce her

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to anything. So I was a little bummed out and

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I got over it pretty quickly. But when I found

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out she had seen a little bit of Alvin and

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the Chipmunks, and only because I didn't want to spoil

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the enjoyment of what movies are and what kids' movies

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are and how things work, and I feel like that

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would introduce an element of reality that I just want

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her to be able to enjoy these things without. She's

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seen Kung Fu Panda when she was younger, Like I

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don't know three four, five times. That has no idea

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that I'm in that my voice is there. She knows

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how you stand up. She gets that now. When she

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was younger, she'd say, daddy's silly for a living. I'm

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just trying to ride the balance of letting her have

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those childhood joys and experiences. I thought this was interesting.

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Cross said, I still get excited to watch specials by

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some of my favorite comics, but there's there's a quality

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that's missing. And these are all stand ups I love,

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and they're not that great. They're not bad, but they're

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not special. You know, I don't know why that is.

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I mean, there's still funny stuff, but I don't ever

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want to get to that place where it just feels

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a little phoned in a little bit. That's why these

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last two specials were shot in the orient, mid setting

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that feel special. As they said, the energy is different,

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it's a little bit different, and it's less slick. You're

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in the moment. You don't need a million dollars to

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shoot a special. You don't need twenty eight camera angles.

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It just bs and it takes something away. Independent Rhode

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Island caught up with Hannibal burse Hannibal dabbles in music

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when he's not doing comedy. As for music, Hannibal said,

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it's really writing in another format. If you're a writer,

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you can write stand up, you can write a sketch,

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you can write for television, you can do copy for somebody,

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you can ghost write for somebody else, or you can

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write music. Music just another way to write stuff, and

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it also necessarily it doesn't have to be funny at

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every moment. It can be funny, but it can have

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a range of emotions. So there's ideas that I've touched

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on in my stand up that have also brought into

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music and stories that I've told him both where I've

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been able to approach it in a different way. In music,

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you can focus on small details and things like that

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in a story, but every moment doesn't necessarily have to

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be funny, and stand up every moment doesn't have funny either,

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with the setup and everything. But it's good to have

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an arsenal of both formats where you can examine any

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idea and see which format goes in best. Julio Tores

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was in Interview magazine. He fielded some questions. One of

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the questions was, hey, Julio, I think my apartment is haunted,

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but the rent is super cheap. How can I expel

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the ghosts? Great question, Juliosaur says, your rent is super

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cheap because your apartment is haunted. You can't have your

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cake and eat it too. Okay, if you expel the

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ghost that means you're expelling the decease, are making your

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rent cheaper because you're a subletter of the ghosts. Now,

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how can you get rid of them? E victim Them's

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not on the table. I think you have to learn

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how to coexist and make this the best you can.

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Or if it feels like it's untenable because they're eating

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your food or whatever, I would just find a new apartment.

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Charlie Day has been cast in the new film Golf Trip.

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Golf Trip follows three longtime best friends who reunite for

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their annual golf getaway. What begins as a relaxing escape

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quickly unravels when they are unexpectedly paired with the universally

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dreaded single golfer. As tensions rise and personalities clash, the

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trip spirals into a series of increasing chaotic and comedic misadventures.

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GQ caught up with Joel kim Booster. He's on the

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current season of Scrubs, which I'm enjoying the heck out of.

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We learned that Joel kim Booster is a no breakfast guy.

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Joel tells GQ, I don't eat my first meal until

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late in the afternoon. My body is incredibly used to it.

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At this point, I find the most effective way for

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me to eat what I want without necessarily tracking every

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macro and stuff like that, and still maintaining some of

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the ratio to body fat to muscle that I have. Joel,

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do you have any go to snacks? He says. What

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I try to do is only have available stuff in

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the house that is reasonably good for you to some degree.

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I'm big on fried chicken skin as a low carb chip.

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Substitute fruit leather instead of candy, protein, ice cream, stuff

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like that. So it tricks you into thinking you're being bad,

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but in fact you're actually being bad in a more

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contained way. The Melbourne International Comedy Festival continues. I pulled

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some clips. Takashi Jagasuki's show is called Wabi Sabi Comedy. Now.

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He's got a show tomorrow at three thirty in the afternoon.

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So if you're in Melbourne on a Sunday afternoon comedy,

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go see Takashi. As for the title Wabi Sabi Comedy,

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we learned that wabi sabi is a Japanese aesthetic that

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finds beauty and imperfection in permanence and incompleteness. Waka believes

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the concept of wabi sabi is the great way to

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make people happy, and he thinks it might connect and

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adapt to his comedy. Here's a clip just to make

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sure everybody gets the joke, plus or minus the accent

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or the references the material here is talking about. In

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Milbourne they have in like a super awesome trolley system

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and you have to tap your card when you get

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on and you have to tap your card and when

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you get off. Okay, so he's talking about tapping your

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fair card here. I'll let him take it from here.

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I have a question, Melboum. Do you know Mikey Cobb

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like trans potation Melbourne? Right? The question is do you

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top when you take Trump? Are you reasoning? Are you

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no use? Shoot?

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Why?

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But so many people don't rise? And I found there's

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a ranking there Merrybourne and Trump happiness ranking. I found

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that so you don't have to agree with me, but

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just please listen. So number one to number four. So

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number four worst Merlbourne and Trump trip is when you

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didn't tap your card and inspector came to check. That's

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the worst because you have to pay the fine so expensive.

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You feel worse. That's number four right. Next number three,

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number three is when you tapped your card and the

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inspector didn't come to check. It sounds normal.

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It sounds normal, but you may think, oh, I didn't

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have to tap.

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That could have been free. I could have saved money

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for the coffee. You feel like you're wasting money, feeling

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it's not happy? Number three right, And next number two,

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Number two is when you didn't tap your card and

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inspector didn't come to check. It's just normal, luckly free

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tram right and you are happy. You are happy, but

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you have to get scared all the time in the tram.

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You have to check if inspector come or not from

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the window. Because half happiness and how anxious. That's why

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number two and then number one happiest Melbourne Trump trip

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is when you top the card and inspector came to check.

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It's the happiest. Do you think because you feel the

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extra achievement ex distrugivement, and you proud yourself so much

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because you know you just made the best decision in

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your life, tapping card and then you are so confident.

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You are so confident, and inspector came ask you can

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I just get my key card and you said, well, yes, of.

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Course, yes you can check everything about me. You are

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so cold because you top the car right, and I

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know you can add extra happiness and industuation, extra bonus

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happiness industuation.

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So you topped the car. Inspect that came. You're so

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happy and confident, and then you saw someone have to

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pay the fine in the truck. That's extra bonus happiness.

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Do you think I like him a lot. He's Takashi

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Waga Sugi. And that is your comedy news for today

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see tomorrow