Aug. 28, 2026

DCN Live x 4 Mile Run - Nate Bargatze vs. Shane Gillis? Pick one!

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Johnny Mac records an “Afternoon Check-In” during a run and uses a walk break to cover three topics: a social media debate about whose career he’d rather have going forward—Nate Bargatze or Shane Gillis—leaning toward Nate for long-term touring potential while questioning how Shane’s persona ages; a late-night ratings report that Byron Allen’s 11:30 show beat Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon in 18–49 on a Monday where Fallon and Allen were reruns and Kimmel had Jelly Roll hosting; and a preview of tomorrow’s deep dive on Richard Jeni, urging listeners to notice Seinfeld-like pacing in Jeni and wondering about influence in the other direction. He also shares Hal Higdon marathon-training basics and why run/walk breaks help, noting he’s run two NYC Marathons that way.

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Hey there. So today we're out on my run. This

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is actually the walk break. We'll talk about that at

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the end. I'm Johnny Mack with the Afternoon Check-In. A

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couple things on my mind. One, I saw a social

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media post, one of those engagement traps, that asked a question,

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but I keep thinking about it. Whose career would you

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rather have for the rest of their career? Nate Bregazzi

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or Shane Gillis? Huh. That's a tough one. So if

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you tell me Nate is going to continue to do comedy...

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and not open theme parks and stop touring? I think

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the answer is Nate. Nate could have Jim Gaffigan's career,

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maybe even Jerry Seinfeld's stand-up career and tour for a

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long time. Boy, I'm out of breath on this hill.

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That's why I take the long break. Shane, clearly selling

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out stadiums, 70,000 seats. I love him. Tires is great.

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But as he's even talked about, as he hits 40,

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does the frat boy thing work long term? Like, what

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is 60-year-old Shane Gillis? I'm not sure. I had to

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pause there to catch my breath. I used to podcast

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to get in the middle of a run. Second topic,

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this stuns me. Late night of reporting that at 11.30

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on Monday of this week, Byron Allen's thing beat Kimmel

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and Fallon. Fallon was in a rerun, and the Kimmel

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show had Jelly Roll hosting, and Byron Allen's show, which

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was also a rerun, won the night in 18-49. So

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you can hate on CBS all you want, but from

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a financial standpoint, they're being paid to run Byron Allen's

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thing and beating Jelly Roll, hosting Jimmy Kibble. Boy, that's crazy.

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So Jimmy, if you're watching this video, listen to me, buddy.

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Take that renewal from ABC before they start looking at

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things and ask, like, why don't we just run game

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show reruns at 11.30? I mean, Jimmy's contract is up

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in May. Take the money, buddy. At 58 years old,

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I think Jimmy is, maybe 57, unless you're out of

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breath taking a walk break on your run. By the way,

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first mile, I shaved 30 seconds off my usual time today,

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so give me some credit there. Anyway, Kimmel, if ABC calls,

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just say yes, take the money. Third topic, tomorrow on

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the Deep Dive, is a look at Richard Jenney. And

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as I put it together, what I want you to

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listen out for is listen to how much Seinfeld is

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in Richard Jenney's delivery. And I don't mean the, hey,

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you ever notice? But just like the things he's saying

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and his pacing. Take a close listen to the Jenny

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clips in the Saturday episode. And I'm going to give

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you a premise here. Yeah, there's a lot of Seinfeld

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and Richard Jenny. I'm now wondering, is there a lot

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of Richard Jenny and Jerry Seinfeld? All right, let's take

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some running tips here. So why are we walking, John,

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other than you're clearly out of breath? When I marathon train,

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I follow a guy named Hal Higdon. And he's got

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this wonderful training plan. The short version is you have to,

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on the weekend, do a long run. And on Wednesday,

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you do half of what the long run is. So

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if your long run is, say, 10 miles, you do

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five on Wednesday. And you run a couple threes during

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the week. But one thing I learned from Hal, especially

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as I age here, it's okay to walk. Because the

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walk gives you your lungs back, unless you're recording a

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podcast for some reason. But you get lungs back, and

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then you can run that next mile a little stronger.

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So I've done two New York City marathons. And I

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did the run-walk thing both times. And here we are

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at the top of the hill. I've got my lungs back.

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We'll treat ourselves to this nice downhill here. Again, this

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is not a training run. This is a nice, easy run.

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People seem to be digging these DCN Lives. Let me

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actually go on a run as the camera bounces. People

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seem to be digging these DCN Lives. The numbers are

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doing okay, so I'll continue doing them. And I'm going

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to continue to try and make them slightly weird. Back

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in the morning with Richard Jenney. Pretty good episode, if

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I say so myself. And I'm going to go finish

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out this run now. Enjoy your Friday.