Defining comedy 'Specials', Is 'The Bear' a comedy? Trevor Noah on returning to The Daily Show

Johnny Mac starts with a discussion on what makes a comedy special, taking into account the performer, production value, and venue. In other news, he covers the controversy surrounding Filipino stand-up comedian Joe Koy's ill-received performance at...
Johnny Mac starts with a discussion on what makes a comedy special, taking into account the performer, production value, and venue. In other news, he covers the controversy surrounding Filipino stand-up comedian Joe Koy's ill-received performance at the Golden Globes and public reactions. Finally, Mack discusses the after-party events of the Emmy Awards and the tension around them. The episode also sees mentions of Adam Sandler's upcoming film, Netflix's 'Spaceman', and more.
What Makes a Comedy Special?
Are Filipinos down on Jo Koy
Ted Lasso crew shuts down Joy Behar's story
Burt Kreischer's 5K Challenge
Adam Sandler's Upcoming Sci-Fi Film seems.....awful
Trevor Noah and Roy Wood Jr. on The Daily Show's Emmy
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Callaroga Shark Media. Hello, I'm
Johnny Mack with your daily comedy News.
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Most of the news is related to
the after parties at the Emmys. I'll
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cover that in the second half.
That leaves me some room for something I
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wanted to address. Zach joined us
on the Facebook group, which is Daily
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Comedy News podcast group. You are
highly encouraged to join us. Just post
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something and I'll approve you relatively quickly. We had to put up a gate
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because we were getting a lot of
porn bots joining the conversation. We don't
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want them. But Zack's not a
porn bot. And he said, I
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have a question. I've been listening
for a while. Maybe I missed an
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episode, but what makes something a
special or not a special? And I
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loved this question, and I put
some thought into it, and I posted
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a response in the Facebook group,
but I wanted to talk about it on
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the podcast. I do think there's
some subjectivity here. You know. It's
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kind of like, I'll just mention
for the second time today, porn.
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You kind of know what when you
see it, A naked statue is not
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porn. And at some point,
I guess if you pose this, that's
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you in a certain way, it
would become born to ish. So I
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started with what's not a special?
And I think the word special is being
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thrown around to mean anything where somebody
is holding a microphone and telling jokes.
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The words being thrown around by comedians
for anything that's over ten minutes. You'll
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see comics on social media. Go
check out my special on YouTube. And
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I think on a sliding scale,
at some point we cross over from hey,
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my friend film my club set and
I posted on YouTube. That's at
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one end of the scale, and
on the other end of the scale,
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Chris rock is live on Netflix addressing
the slap right, so that's clearly a
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special. And me going up with
the chuckle hut and filming ten minutes on
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a single camera and posting it on
YouTube not a special. So along that
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grade, where does it cross the
line? I think we almost have to
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use a points system, and I'll
explain. So the words special to me
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goes back to the eighties when HBO
would be like, here's a special,
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and it's George Carlin at Carnegie Hall
and it's on HBO and you got to
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pay to get HBO, like that
was a special, or even something like
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Bob hope doing four of them a
year around the holidays. But it was
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on NBC and they promoted the heck
out of it, and it was a
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big deal. Those were specials.
A lot of the things that are out
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there now should probably just be called
hours, all right, So what makes
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it a special to me? And
you'll have to assign some sort of points
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here. It's some combination of the
theater and often a legacy theater in a
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town like the Fox Theater in Atlanta, or if say you did a show
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at the VIC in Chicago or the
Chicago Theater like one of those Radio City
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So I think the theater factors in
a stadium clearly would help make your cause
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for a special. The production values, How is it shot? Is it
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just a single cam at a club? Is it multi shoot? Did somebody
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put some work into it? Possibly
where it airs? I maybe unfairly take
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something more seriously if it airs on
HBO or Netflix as opposed to just YouTube.
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But that might just be the old
man in me, and things are
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changing. That said, I think
if YouTube went all in and said,
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hey, Jim Gaffigan has a live
special at eight o'clock on Saturday night on
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YouTube, I think that would be
a special, and add to this some
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subjective ranking of how established the act
is. So the examples I use in
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the Facebook group, if you told
me Jim Gaffigan Netflix, Fox Theater in
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Atlanta, that's a special. Matt
Rife on Netflix that might be more of
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an hour because he doesn't have the
body of work. I'll give you an
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opposite example. If Jerry Seinfeld did
an hour and it aired on Netflix and
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he filled it in my garage,
that to me would be a special.
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Is my garage a legendary venue?
Not yet, but I think because it
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was Ooh, Jerry Seinfeld filmed something
in a garage that would make it special.
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Dave Chappelle in my backyard would be
special. Joe List in my backyard,
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that's an hour. Great question,
Zach, appreciate it and I'm not
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saying I'm right, And I'd love
everyone else's thoughts on this again. Join
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us in the Facebook group Daily Comedy
News podcast group. The South China Morning
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Post got in on Joe Coy.
Seems some Filipinos have turned on Joe after
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the Golden Globe's fiasco. One Twitter
user said, my grandma stervived World War
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two and she's never seen a Filipino
bomb this hard. That got eight thousand
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likes. Another said Jokoy brought her
deep Filipino shame. Another user declared Joe
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Koy an embarrassment to all Filipinos.
Why because he made a joke about TV
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covering Taylor Swift at football games?
Really, or turn on this guy?
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I thought he was a hero.
A post on Facebook got one hundred and
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thirty two thousand likes for Joe Coy's
got Cajone's made of iron to accept that
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hosting responsibility. That alone deserves a
round of applause. Another influencer on Facebook
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set accepting the task in the very
first place, displays Jocoy's Filipino courage.
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Courage is a little strong too.
Like I said, I'll host the Golden
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Globes cold call me twenty minutes before
I'll throw on a baseball cap and I'll
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read the cute cards and you guys
can tell me I sucked. I'll take
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the gig. I don't think it's
brave. Athena Presto is a sociologist at
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the University of the Philippines. Athena
says Joe koy success comes from the fact
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that Filipinos want representation, especially because
of our colonial history. For the longest
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time, some Filipiinos have been finding
it hard to think about a distinct cultural
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trait that we can call our own. So any affront to Joe Coy is
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seen as an affront to one's identity. Cal Fabe, a comedy magician,
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said Joe Coy was out of his
death saying where some of his jokes inappropriate,
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Sure, but that never stopped people
like Ricky Gervais before. Edward Chico
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is a Manila based lawyer and a
stand up comedian. Edward said, to
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a certain extent, Joe Coy was
responsible for mainstreaming point of view comedy as
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Filipinos prefer insult based and slapstick comedy. Because of Joe Coy, it's now
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easy for stand up comedians like me
to find an audience. He paved the
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way, and I'm thankful to him
for that. Daniel Toash commented on Taylor
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Swift. This was in December,
this before the Golden Globes. Tosh said,
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here's what bothers me about Taylor Swift. I love everything about her business,
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savvy, all of it. I
think she's a genius. But What
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I want to say is her song, the one song where she goes,
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we can leave the Christmas lights up
till January. I'm like, that's only
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effing five days after Christmas. It's
not a big deal. Five days after
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Christmas is not worthy of a lyric. Can you believe it? They left
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their Christmas lights up until January?
Second, he's referencing her twenty nineteen song
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Lover. Mark Curry is on Team
Kat Williams. Mark was on the Willie
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d Podcast. At first, he
didn't talk about Steve Harvey by name,
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but he was addressing a people stealing
material. Mark Curry said, if you
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steal his material, I'm a step
to you. If you're stealing my crap,
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fu, I stepped to you.
That doesn't mean it has to be
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a physical thing. Then he named
names and said, take the Steve Harvey
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thing. It's a B word move. Maybe he's not stealing my material,
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you know, and maybe give him
the benefit of the doubt. Maybe one
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of his writers did it, but
they know we all know whose material it
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is. It ain't about the money. Steve Harvey's got enough money. So
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it looked like you want some of
me, you want to be me?
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Therefore you ain't got enough money.
I look at it like, all right,
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I'm a g in the game.
You want to be me, you
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want my style. In twenty twenty, Steve Harvey told Mark Curry then he
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needs to grow up and quit with
the accusations. Harvey said at the time,
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Mark Curry needs to grow up.
Steve Harvey ain't been on stage since
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twenty fifteen. He doesn't know what
he's talking about. He's making stuff up.
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So I'm in peace. The only
reason I'm commenting is because he keeps
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running his mouth. Grow up.
Never stole a joke in thirty five years.
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Come to me like a man and
tell me what the joke is.
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Mark Curry is currently booked on Cat
William's Dark Tour. That's Fun, Here's
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a weird one. Joy Bayharr was
on the view. Joy Bayharr said she
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was approached to play the role of
Ted Lasso's mother, and she said she
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passed on the gig because she didn't
want to travel to London during her heat
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wave. Joyce said, it was
too hot. You remember there was a
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heat wave going on at the time, like one hundred degree weather, and
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I have to get on a plane
and go to in the middle of the
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heat. No well. Jason Sidekis
and Brendan Hunt were asked about this.
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Sadaikas went Joey Bayhart from the view. Brendan Hunt said, respectfully, it'd
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be news to us. We just
worked there, so I'm gonna claim I'm
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trying to get in a fight with
everybody. I was asked to play ted
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Lasso's older brother, but I declined
it. It was too hot in London
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night didn't feel like getting on a
plane. In filming, Jelly Roll has
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started a train for a five K. He says, I'm in the woods
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walking every morning. Why are you
bringing it up, Johnny Mack? This
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is the five K that Bert Krascher
and Tom Sagora declared. They're actually doing
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this. Michelle Wolf is in.
She said I could get my crap together
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for five K. Stavros Halkius said, I want to get back in the
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zone. I'm going to be healthy. Louis c k said, I'm gonna
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tell you that I'm gonna do it, then I'm definitely not gonna do it,
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and he calls the five K by
the name. This is watch Bert
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Die. Jelly Roll is trying to
get Zach Bryan to join the five K.
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Zach Bryan said, We're all here
with you, brother. If I'm
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not playing, I'll be there.
Netflix has released the trailer for Adam Sandler's
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upcoming sci fi film. It'll be
out in theaters on February twenty third,
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and then on Netflix March first.
It is directed by the guy who directed
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Chernobyl Chernobyl's Terrific, But I think
director Johann Rink is slumming here. I
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have shared the trailer in the Facebook
group Daily Comedy News podcast group. I'm
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gonna play an excerpt here. I
have scoped this down, meaning I made
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some edits so that it doesn't drag, because there's a lot of very lofty
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sailor dialogue followed by some pensive shots
that's just music. So I scoped this
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down a little bit to give you
the feel of the excellent dialogue in Adam
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Sandler's upcoming film. On behalf of
the Eurospace Program, one hundred and eighty
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nine days into your solo journey,
Commander Prahatska, how are you feeling?
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What I'm doing is for everyone back
home and that makes me very proud and
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your wife Lenka, of course,
I'm looking forward to having your home safe
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and found. Six months of isolation, you're start thinking, good morning,
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I'm getting an appearance. I did
not intend to frighten you, skinny human.
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Do not be afraid I'm losing my
mind. You wish to know if
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I am real. I'll like you
an explorer. Your loneliness intrigued me.
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A are you here? I might
be of help. I wish to assist
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you in your emotional distress. I
don't ease your help, but you too.
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In space, man Adam Sandler is
six months into a solitary research mission
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to the edge of the Solar System. He realizes that the marriage he left
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behind might not be waiting for him
when he returns to Earth. Desperate to
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fix things with his life, he's
helped by a mysterious creature from the beginning
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of time he finds hiding in the
bowels of his ship. The mysterious creature
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works with Jacob to make sense of
what went wrong before it's too late.
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Really all right, let's look at
the Emmys. People noticed when The Daily
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Show was winning the Emmy and Trevor
Noa was speaking, Roywood Junior was behind
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him and mouthed please hire a host. He later responded it to post on
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Twitter, saying, chill fam,
I was trying to do that. In
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the low he included several laughing symbols. The Hollow Reporter tracked roy Wood Junior
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down after the show, and he
said, I was saying, please hire
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a host. I probably shouldn't have
done it, but it's been going on
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too long. Get it together.
But I'm so happy that Trevor won.
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Trevor said when they announced that we
had won, I was like, Ah,
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Who's going to replace me? It's
the second thing I thought of as
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well. I'm still thinking about that
and I will continue to think about it
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as I celebrate this amazing achievement.
Does Trevor have any regrets? He says,
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when I see everybody here in the
same place, I'd gladly come back
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and work with everyone. However,
when I see what my schedule is on
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Wednesday, I wouldn't do it.
Joel McHale and Ken Jung had some fun
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at the Emmys at Joe Coy's expense. Joel McHale joked that the former doctor
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Ken Jung left his medical career not
for acting, but because he'd killed a
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patient was still facing a lawsuit over
it. Ken joked back, the instruments
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that almost killed that dude were the
ones the nurses left in, Okay,
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the ones that saved his life for
the ones I left in. And besides,
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I only had the gig for ten
days at that point. There's some
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debate about the bait. The Bear
swept all the comedy awards. I'm a
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big fan of The Bear, and
you know, I'm thinking about it.
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It's not a comedy. Might be
the best show on TV. I'm a
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big fan, but it's not a
comedy. Maybe we've gone full circle here
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to the beginning of the post,
and I have to declare, all right,
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what makes something a comedy? I
would say to be a comedy,
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you have to at least be attempting
to make jokes. Like Adam Sandler's work
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is terrible, but he's at least
trying to be funny. I'm not sure
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The Bear is even trying to be
funny. Ivan moss bacharak one supporting actor
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in a comedy series for the show, and he argued, quote, these
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ideas about comedy and drama are a
little bit outdated. No they're not.
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No, they're not, like,
you can't tell me like True Detective is
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a comedy. It's not, he
suggested. We're all just trying to reflect
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the mess of being human, which
is deeply hilarious, and we're all suffering.
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Yes, but that's not a comedy. Like I'm not about to tell
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you a story about murders. It's
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