March 24, 2025
Does Bill Burr need to disappear for a while? PLUS Jimmy Carr's Comedy Insights, and Hollywood's Comedy Crisis
Johnny Mac discusses the notion of Bill Burr taking a break from the spotlight and reflects on Jimmy Carr's insights from his interview with the Times of London, covering the essence of comedy and why it thrives while other entertainment forms...
Johnny Mac discusses the notion of Bill Burr taking a break from the spotlight and reflects on Jimmy Carr's insights from his interview with the Times of London, covering the essence of comedy and why it thrives while other entertainment forms struggle. The episode also explores Steve Byrne's thoughts on the waning influence of Hollywood on comedy, the impact of political correctness on the industry, and notable highlights involving John Mulaney, Joe Gatto, Jeff Dunham, and other comedians. Additionally, topics like the importance of laughter in difficult times and Michael Blackson's generous donation to his old high school are covered, along with a segment on Robert Smigel's previously unreleased TV Funhouse skit. To support the show and access ad-free episodes, visit caloroga.com/plus.
00:00 Introduction and Today's Excitement
00:13 Bill Burr and the Comedy Scene
00:49 Jimmy Carr's Comedy Insights
03:31 John Mulaney and Talk Radio
04:54 Steve Byrne on Hollywood and Comedy
07:12 Joe Gatto's Controversy
10:07 Jeff Dunham and Comedy Boundaries
13:01 Trey Crowder and Political Comedy
13:48 Gossip Corner: Ali Wong and Bill Hader
14:19 Cameron Esposito's New Special
15:04 Michael Blackson's Generosity
15:29 Robert Smigel's Lost TV Funhouse
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Callaroga Shark Media, No Jenny Mack with your daily comedy news.
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I am psyched for today. As I put it together,
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there were different names in the news, which was just
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so refreshing for me. And as I so searched about that,
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I started thinking about Bill Burr and how has Bill
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Burr gotten us to a place where it's like, you know, Bill,
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you need to disappear for three months now. You've heard
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me say this in the past about like gaffing and
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needed to tap the brakes, and he has. Jim took
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my advice right. We haven't heard from Jim in a bit,
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but Bill needs to go away for a little bit now.
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It's just so weird. I'll talk about Conan tomorrow as
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I don't have the information as I record this in
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the middle of Sunday afternoon, and often I don't record
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on Sundays, so it's nice and the news cycles a
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little different. I'll start with The Times of London, the
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Sunday version of The Times, and they had a profile
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with Jimmy Carr, who explained how to get a laugh.
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I think Jimmy might actually be my favorite living comedian.
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I try to see him whenever I can I always
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find his shows excellent anyway, Jimmy says, to get a laugh,
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you do the opposite of what is expected. So someone
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who doesn't do physical comedy doing a pratfall is funny.
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It's the thing about jokes being the sudden revelation of
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a previously concealed fact. Every joke has two stories, and
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the first story sets up an assumption that turns out
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to be erroneous. It's the same structure whether you're doing
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clever wordplay or falling over that's really smart, obviously. Jimmy,
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a top top comedian the Times, was curious why music
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vidues are struggling and stand up seems to be thriving.
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Carr said, because comedy clubs deliver week in week out.
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What do you want from a night out? A couple drinks,
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something to eat in a great laugh. But I think
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about comedy as a function in society is that it
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opens up the window of what you can and can't
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talk about, not just edgy topics. Even if you do
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mainstream observational stuff, the audience go, oh, we can complain
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about life a little bit. It gives you permission to
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have conversations you wouldn't otherwise. It's like you put on
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magical glasses and see everything in a slightly funnier way.
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It was an interview with a comedian, so of course
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you know you can't say anything anymore. The Times phrase
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that is are there things people used to find funny
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they don't anymore? Car said, I think there's a broader
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church now than ever before. Britain's Got Talent last year
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was won by a clown act. There's mine too. Comedy
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feels much more open. It's weird. While ITV and the
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BBC were fighting over a Saturday night ratings, YouTube just
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stole their lunch and streamers are stepping up to Netflix
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has done a tremendous amount for stand up though. I
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did realize the other day that Jeffrey Dahmer has more
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Netflix specials than I have. It's an interview with a comedian,
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so we'll talk about getting canceled. Jimmy explains, intention is
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important with me. It's clear what the intention of the
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evening is. But the way you can get reported is
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if you're shouting jokes through someone's letterbox at nine am.
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I subscribe to the benign violation theory that jokes are
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benign violations. You take a violation to matter how extreme,
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but make it benign by joking about it. Jokes can
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be a way of making sense of stuff. Think about
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how we use humor in our lives when something terrible happens,
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never mind on stage. There's a lot of laughter around grief, death,
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and disease. There's a real functionality to it. It makes
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something okay. It's slightly playing with fire, but you don't
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choose your sense of humor. It choos you. It's like
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sexual taste. Some like it's spicy. Others prefer milder stuff.
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But you don't fake a laugh. And Jimmy talked about clapter,
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quoting him exactly. I have this thing I call clapter
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where an audience are just applauding clapper, not laughter. I
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watch out for that because that's just people agreeing with you.
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Too easy. It's too easy to say Trump's a dummy.
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There's nothing in that. But also, I don't want it
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just to be a shock and inhalation of breath and
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a nervous laugh. It's got to be a belly laugh
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followed by an intake of breath. It has to be
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the right way around, because shock is nothing. It's got
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to be funny first and foremost good stuff there. Chris
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Gethard had a note for John mullaney again, I haven't
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seen episode two of M'LANEI yet, but I'm seeing mixed
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buzz at best. Some people are like, Okay, it's quirky,
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but I'm not seeing anyone saying it's great, which is
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a shame. Some people are comparing m'laniy show to what
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Chris getherd it used to do on his show, and
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Chris tweeted, I really love Everybody's Live, and I'm probably
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more fascinated at its existence than anyone on earth, and
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I wanted to succeed on a massive scales. So please, guys,
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let's get John an in ear monitor for the phone calls,
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and just let me know if I can help in
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any other way. As somebody who has produced a lot
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of talk radio over the years, I can tell you
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and I screen calls better than anybody in the game.
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I challenge all of you. I will screen calls better
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than you. I'm really, really, really good at it, and
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i will tell you after the first sentence out of
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the caller's mouth, it's diminishing returns and you have to
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prep the caller and go Okay, surely when you get on,
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make sure you tell host you know, hey, I just
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wanted to say that I think blue umbrellas are stupid.
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Just get right to your point and then from there
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it's diminishing returns and John is putting civilians on the
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air live and that's why it's a mess. So I'll
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give the same note from I did from the LA series.
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Stop doing the segment. It doesn't work. That said, I
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don't think Millenni cares that. He just wants to do
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this quirky, weird show and Netflix is paying for it whatever.
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Steve Byrne talked to Fox News Digital thanks to dr
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who shared this on the Facebook group Daily Comedy News
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Podcast Group. I had just put together the show and
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then popped on Facebook really quickly because I wanted to
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tell you guys. This week I'm speaking to Jason Zinnemann
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from the New York Times. He's going to be one
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of my guests about Hebburg. But I want to ask
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you guys anything you want me to ask Jason while
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I have him, So if there is something, throw it
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in the Facebook group. You'll see the post there. And
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I just put together the show with the Steve Burn thing,
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and I saw dr had shared the interview, so we're
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thinking of each other. Thank you for sharing it. Steve
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Burn told Fox News Digital Hollywood today it could do
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a better job allowing comedians to be funny. I fear
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that my kids are growing up in a generation that
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isn't going to have those kind of like communal jokes
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or communal scenes, or all these cultural references that we
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all grew up with. One hundred percent on that, and
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I think that's just gone. Burn said, Hollywood's not making comedies,
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They're not taking chances. Comedians were never selling out arenas
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to degree we have multiple comedians out there that are
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now arena acts. That's because Hollywood has failed in terms
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of filling the void with comedies, and so people are
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getting their fixed in arenas. That's interesting, right, because you'd
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like to go out for a night and back in
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the day, you'd be like, oh, well, Bill Murray movie,
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thanks for the fifty year old reference there, John, you
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know what I mean. But we don't do that anymore.
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And I guess it gets back to what Carr was
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saying earlier. You know, it's nice to have a night out.
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I went out with the boys on Saturday afternoon to
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watch them college basketball. I had just spent a week
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in Doublin of the bars every night, and I want
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to see my friends. And we sat there and we
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had a beverage or two and some food and stared
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at sports and it's nice. It's nice to go out,
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you know what I'm saying. Yes, Burn said, I think
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if Hollywood was smart, they let some of these guys
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go for it and not be too restrictive in terms
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of like, obviously, what Bill Burr has done, what Shane
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Gillis has done, those are blueprints. Obviously there's a desire
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for someone to let them take that into a narrative
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form make films. Burn finds the entertainment industry progressive and
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left as a whole. I think that's why people are
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leaving traditional outlets to go to your mom's house or
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Rogan's podcast, because they're getting their fixed from these other
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mainstream elements that you know, pretty much only primarily support
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people that agree with them and play in their same sandbox.
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I think you gain stand up is the greatest job
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of the world. The fact that you could take something
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relatable or something you just pull out of the ether,
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and you bring it to a roomful of strangers and
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elicit just a single emotion, which is laughter. This is
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nothing better than that. Steve burns favorite comedian, Brian Callen
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makes me laugh like nobody else. He's so smart, so gifted,
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so talted, and he just genuinely makes me laugh. Joe
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Gatto released a statement after a woman accused him of
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sexual assault in a TikTok. Joe said he had quote
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used poor judgment unquote in the past, but quote wouldn't
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assault anyone unquote. The TikTok users said she had met
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Gaddo in twenty twenty three, when she was nineteen. Her
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claim is that she began texting him after approaching in
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a restaurant in hopes of getting a free ticket to
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the show. She ledges Gaddo gave her a pair of tickets,
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and they continued to text. She claims they eventually wound
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up in a hotel room and some stuff happened. She
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didn't go into detail what occurred. I'm not pulling my
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punch there. She didn't share it. In one of her
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subsequent posts that day, she wrote, I got sexually assaulted
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by Joe Gatto. The Impractical Joker. Gaddo issued a statement
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on Saturday which reads, iveeu'sed judgment and as a result,
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have violated the trust of the people I love most.
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But anyone who knows me at all knows full well
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that I wouldn't assault anyone. Working on myself is an
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ongoing process, and I'm now going to take some time
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away from the public eye to focus my energies where
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I need to. Joe had left The Jokers in twenty
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twenty one. At that time, he cited issues in my
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personal life and announced that he and his wife had
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been splitting up. In an Instagram post, he wrote, sorry
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in advance for the long and more serious than usual
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note below, I just wanted to let you all know
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I'll no longer be involved with Impractical Jokers. Alongside my friends.
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I've devoted a decade in my life to building the
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franchise and couldn't be prouder of what has been accomplished. However,
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due to some issues in my personal life, I have
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to step away. Bessie and I have decided to amicalle
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port Ways said how I need to focus on being
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the best father and co parent two or two incredible kids.
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Rob Schneider has suggested that Kate McKinnon's presidential election called open.
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The one where she's sang Hallelujah as Hillary Clinton was
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the end of Saturday Night Live. Schneider told Glenn Beck,
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I hate to crap on my own show when Hillary
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Clinton lost, which is understandable. She's not exactly the most
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likable person in the room. And then when Kate McKinnon
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went out there on SNL and the cold opening and
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all that and started dressing as Hillary Clinton, she starts
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playing Hallelujah. I literally prayed, please have a joke at
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the end, don't do this, Please don't go down there.
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There was no joke at the end, and I went,
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it's over, It's not going to come back. He then
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talked about the late night hosts, specifically Kimmel and Colbert.
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You could take the comedic indoctrination process happening with each
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of the late night hosts and you could exchange them
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with each other. That's saying, you know, it's not interesting anymore.
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Andrew Schultz sold Dak Shephard the secret to Trump's success
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is that Trump doesn't sound rich. Schultz said, that's what
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people don't like. Technowledge. Trump doesn't sound rich. When he talks,
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he sounds poor. Schultz continued and said the face of
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the Democratic Party should not be like a fourth generation
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trust fund neppo baby who's never had a real job,
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like telling working class Americans what they should do. Trump
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talks like he's from the neighborhood. Schultz talked about a
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press conference where Trump was asked and what happens if
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Russia doesn't do the ceasefire? What will happen? And then
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he goes, what if someone drops a bomb and it
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blows on your head. That's how Frank from the neighborhood
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would answer a question. So he communicates in a way
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that is super relatable to these people, despite his life
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not being at all relatable. Jeff Dunham told Fox Trump's
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win is a weight off comics back so they can
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get back to joking around. He says, you feel like
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you can now joke about the things we used to
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joke about. Dunham calls comedy one of the last forms
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of free speech, and the fact in the past few
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years that was trumped on tromped. That's not a word
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that I'm familiar with. I'm getting what it means from
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the context. Clues it's an interesting word to use, especially
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when we're talking about Trump. Let's see. Oxford says, Trump
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is an informal North American word that means trudge or
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stamp on, an example being Larry took a step forward
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and trumped on his wrist. I feel like I'm going
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to hear from people from other parts of the country
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who were like, don't you know what trump is? We
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didn't use trump in Queens anyway, Dunham says, to me,
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a comedian takes it to the line. He knows his audience,
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