Emily Catalano talks about her new album Hey

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Callaroga Shark Media. Hello, I'm
Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news.

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My guest today is Emily Catalano.
Her debut album is out That is called

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Hey, and we'll find out why
it's called that. That outum out on

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Blonde Medicine. You can also get
it in limited edition vinyl with a gorgeous

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mets finish. Here's my conversation with
Emily. Is it weird to put everything

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down as a recording by letting that
material behind it? Is it's a strange

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feeling because you're saying goodbye to it, but it also feels really good to

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get rid of it at the same
time, interesting phrasing and getting rid of

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it or you just you've been doing
it for a long time, so it's

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like sometimes it's nice to go back
to it, but like at the same

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time, like you don't like the
part of what's fun about comedy is like

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the brand new stuff and like growing
out of the comedian, So going back

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to the old stuff like a little
bit of a crutch. So it does

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feel good to be like, okay, and now I'm onto the new chapter.

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Did you approach it from the standpoint
of okay? That hour is done,

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I'm putting it to bed. Or
have you been trying out five ten

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minute chunks along the way so you
have a new set. Yeah, I'm

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figuring it out along the way.
I'm not really sure because a lot of

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this stuff from the album I've already
posted as clips on Instagram or TikTok or

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whatever, So a lot of it
was like I stopped doing anyways. But

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then there was like a new chunk
that like I saved for the album that

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then I recorded as like a video
after that, and now I'm feel like

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I'm done with that and now I'm
like starting fresh. I've been talking to

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a lot of comics who the topic
of crowd work keeps coming up, and

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because of the need to feed the
beast, do you find yourself doing I

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don't mean this is a dig,
but CrowdWork for crowdwork's sake, just so

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you have something to feed TikTok or
whatnot a little bit. I've always really

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enjoyed crowd work before even that was
a thing I found TikTok just I think

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it makes a live experience a little
bit better for the people there. But

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I try not to rely on it, like I'll do my material, and

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then I'll do a little chunk of
crowd work just to make the people who

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like came to the show feel special, And sometimes that turns into something really

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funny. But I'm like, yeah, why wouldn't I post this? This

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is really funny? Yeah, good, crowd work is great. It's I

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think I struggle with the set up
crowd work. I'm gonna just be like,

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your hat is stupid, just so
you can slam me, because you

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know how you have. There's so
many fake clips now and maybe I'm too

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close to it that I can just
tell yeah, no, I get it.

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Like it's really tough when it when
people post something that's it doesn't go

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anywhere. But I'm like really particular
about what I post, Like I have

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to be really happy with it if
I'm posting it. So I hope that

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people who follow me understand this is
gonna be worth your time, This is

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gonna be worth your thirty seconds.
It's gonna go somewhere. Are you post

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everything yourself? Is there a secret
media team of eighty five people? No,

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just I have a background in editing, so I'm like, yeah,

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I don't really trust that many people
that do it for me. No,

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I hear you on that talk to
me about editing. Oh, it's just

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I was just always interested in like
filmmaking, and so, like I think

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in high school, I just started
like making little like sketches or whatever.

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And I actually taught myself how to
edit before I had a computer or anything.

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So I just had like my dad's
camcorder and a VCR player, and

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I would like edit that way like
I would record onto VHS tape, So

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just bringing it down a generation basically, that's the hard way. I'm antioned.

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I learned how a razor blade back
me. Wow, yeah, I

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would have loved that, but I
didn't have It was fun. You have

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razor blade a grease pencil, and
then you got quick enough that you didn't

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need the grease pencil anymore. You
kind of had muscle memory with your thumb

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on where you grab the tape.
You make a slice, let's go for

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it. But you had to keep
track of all the little pieces of tape.

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You'd take out a chunk and put
the tape around your neck so in

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case the edit was poor and you
could put the tape back in and if

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you lost the piece you had taken
out. Once these computers came in.

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These kids today, You guys have
no idea what it was like back in

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the day. I know it was
fun, though I would have loved to

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try the film stuff, but yeah, I had was a VHS on the

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crowd work. Are you finding people
coming trying to be annoying participants in your

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show, like I'm gonna go and
I'll say something funny, so Emily could

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be even more funny. I haven't
gotten a lot of that. I've gotten

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more like people are scared, like
they don't want to be the butt of

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the joke, so they if I'm
just trying to be nice or just trying

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to have a conversation, people will
be like, I'm not talking to you,

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and that's really annoying. That's more
annoying than someone like trying to get

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a good clip. I've heard audiences
are increasingly filling up from the back and

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not taking the thrush. Oh yeah, yeah, it's tough. Are you

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in LA today? I am?
How's the scene out there? I'm a

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little rough. I don't think I've
I know, I haven't done a comedy

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show in LA since the pandemic.
How's the scene? What are the good

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rooms? The good rooms? It
took a while to come back from the

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pandemic. Everything just came back really
slowly. So independent shows got wiped out

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and they're like slowly starting to come
back, but all the clubs seem to

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be back. Like anytime you do
a club show, that's good. I've

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been lucky enough to be able to
do shows at Largo, which I don't

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know if you've ever been there,
but yeah, definitely, every show I've

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done there has been great, So
it's yeah, it's good. I don't

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know. Did you find for yourself
doing some research, you had a conan

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appearance and then the pesky pandemic came
along. Did you feel like kind of

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put things on pause or we're all
in this together, so everybody was on

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pause. What's the difference or did
you feel like that hit your momentum a

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little bit? Oh yeah, I
think it definitely took a hit. But

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I think it came at a time
where maybe I was like a little burnt

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out where I needed a break anyways, so it was like a good reminder

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that, oh I should rest,
I shouldn't be out every night. I

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don't know, just I should take
some time just to be by myself and

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write. So I think that's what
it did for me, and now I

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just I love being home and I
love writing. It like really got me

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into that groove. I think the
entire world liked, you know, in

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a weird way. The six months
off of we just all got sick a

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stake from watched Netflix. Right,
it was just as much as it was

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horrible, it was cool. Everyone
admits four years later it was great.

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I was really excited about it,
actually, like it was scary, but

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I was also like, oh,
I'm so glad that everybody is just stopping.

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I don't have to keep up with
anybody. Did you resort to zoom

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shows? I did. Yeah.
I lived with a couple of other comics,

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so we did a monthly or weekly
zoom show together, which was fun

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because we were all in the same
room, or the three of us were.

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And then we got pretty good following
every week, and it was just

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something to keep our minds occupied and
still writing jokes and interacting with people.

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Some weeks were like really rough and
really, why are we doing this?

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That was terrible, But then some
weeks it was really fun, and we'd

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do this thing where people could bend
mels and we'd take a shot if we

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were like during our set, someone
ben mode and then they said this is

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for Emily or whatever. Then someone
would hand me a shot and we just

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started doing water by the end because
they were like, we can't do this

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anymore. This was a give makes, but we need some great money doing

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that. As a civilian, I
enjoyed the zoomshells. They were product their

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time, and I understand why people
don't want to do them, but they

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were pretty cool. Out here.
There was a guy he had a restaurant

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and he started doing cooking classes.
So I remember every Thursday at four o'clock,

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you would throw him a hundred bucks, go to shop where I'd pick

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up a box, come home,
and he would do a live cooking class.

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But the food was credible. And
then it all of a sudden stopped

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when the world came back and I
was like, oh I liked the cooking

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class. Yeah, stuff was fun. I know. Yeah, there's definitely

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some good moments, and I think
people really appreciated it, which that helped

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a lot. When people were like, this is I look forward to this

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every week, I'm like, Okay, at least somebody is enjoying it and

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we're not doing it for nobody.
But yeah, it was tough. When

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you do comedy in front of a
live audience, there's no other feeling in

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the world, and so to go
from that to you don't hear anybody laughing,

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and you sometimes can't even see their
faces, like if they're smiling,

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so you have no feedback whatsoever.
So it's really tough to do Zoom shows

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and so I'm glad I don't have
to do them anymore. I hadn't really

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thought of that, right, because
you can't keep the crowd mics on because

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then you'll have vidiots talking in your
ears. Oh wow, we would keep

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it on. But the way I
guess Zoom works is like, if you're

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talking, it's gonna mute. Everybody
else have to like pause and hope that

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someone laughs so there's not an awkward
pause. But yeah, live comedy is

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just a million times better. More
with Emily after the break. I love

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your style, I love your writing, A lot of misdirection in it.

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Who are your influences? I started
doing some research and I came across an

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article that I'm convinced was written by
AI. It just had a lot of

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that AI phrasing. Are your influences? Amy? Schumer and Louis C.

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K Oh Interesting, I've never seen
that before. Yeah, never, Probably

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when I started comedy, they were
probably the most famous comedians at the time,

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So definitely I definitely am influenced by
other comedians. But yeah, I

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would say more Sarah Silverman and like
Nay Bargatzi is tak Nataro, like people

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like that. I could see that
in the style and the approach to writing

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all great comics there. Your album
is called Hey, which I love.

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Is there a secret meaning behind Hey? Or is just Hey? That's how

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I start every set. I just
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so it became like just a fun
way to start my set, and for

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some reason people laugh when I say
Hey. I know, if people laugh

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when I say Hey, it's going
to be a good show. But if

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nobody laughs, and I know,
I got to put in a little bit

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more work. Do you have a
chunk that you know works when you pull

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something up from later in the set, or go back to some greatest hits

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type material just to win the room. Yeah, I have a catalog of

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greatest hits, and sometimes those don't
even work. So you're just kind of

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like, all right, I just
got to power through this. But yeah,

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I definitely I'll just go back to
stuff that I know works more than

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other stuff. As somebody who programs
comedy radio stations. I appreciate that you

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named your tracks. Nate drives me
nuts. He doesn't name his tracks.

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They're all eight is twelve tracks tell
a story like the guy went to the

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bathroom. I wonder if he is
mad, And it drives me nuts because

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I'll be like, oh, I'm
looking for a bit about I don't know

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airports, and I have no idea
what his material is unless I play it.

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So thank you for labeling your cuts. How much did you work at

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that or are they just things that
were in your mind? Like this segment

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is called this or did you sit
there and go I'm going to name track

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for this. No, I'll always
bring like a list up with me because

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I have a really bad memory,
so i'll forget the order of my jokes.

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So I kind of name sections of
my material anyways. So it was

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just oh yeah, divorced, married, baseball, like just the one word

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things that just drogged my memory to
let me know where I'm at. So

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it's pretty easy to just be like, oh, this section is that,

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But I do. I wanted every
joke to be its own track, but

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you can't really do that with I
think for like radio or whatever, they

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have to be like at least two
minutes or something. I had to like

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group a bunch of jokes together sometimes
and then I just called it like whatever

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the first joke was or something.
Yeah, I'll tell you the secret behind

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that. As a programmer, you
had like a five minute clip, you

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can play twelve of them in an
hour. So if you start handing in

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forty nine second clips, because they
mess up my scheduling, So that four

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or five minute thing from the radio
person's perspective is the sweet spot, and

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then you, as the artist wants
the radio station to play it so you

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get some of those sweet royalties.
So it's my advice to all comedians if

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your goal is to get streaming royalties, don't have a twenty five second play

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yeah clip, go for five five
minutes, just perfect. Yeah, that's

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that's what the label told me.
I was like, yeah, this is

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the only plant I'm donas was to
get the radio spins. When we started

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back in two thousand and four,
the artists or the comedians were like,

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you're stealing our material, I hate
you, and then the Royalty checks showed

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up and I'll name names. I
ran into Ron White and Nashville and boy

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did he shake my funny how it
flipped it. And then all of a

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sudden every comedian was like, why
are you not playing my album? Was

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like, all right, six months
ago you hated us. Yeah, but

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yeah, Sirius has been like a
game changer. I actually have hope that

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we can make money as comedians.
Yeah. Sure, it's great for awareness.

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I know a lot of people who
bought into it and would come up

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and do guest spots and it definitely
moved tickets for them. It's anything else,

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it's awareness. Yeah. So your
album is also out on vinyl.

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Talk to me about that. I
didn't know that was a thing, And

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I don't mean that as a Weisenheimer. I know Chappelle would sometimes put things

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out on vinyl that I cynically think
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album for the Grammys, that it
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special. But you put this one
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Yeah. I just like the idea
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and it really like whenever I put
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really just sit there and listen to
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on my phone or something, I'm
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attention. But I like the idea
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comedy because that's it feels maybe more
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Also, I just love the vinyl
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piece of art in your home and
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look at it sometimes and it just
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a digital thing. Yeah, everything
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cool. It's like you said,
Hey, here's my digital release. It's

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we talk about this with the kids
at the holidays. There's nothing to give

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anyone anymore. Hey, in the
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gift for gifts sake, I could
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or an album. Now it's here's
ten dollars, go on in Apple and

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buy something. It's there's no there
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hold something is unique these days.
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bring them and give them to people
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to have or sign even it's always
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Yeah that's neat. Yeah i'd like
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know. Posters are cool, but
not everybody wants a poster. But everybody

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can stash away YL even if they
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cool to free. Yeah, they
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it's in Seattle, and I just
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on there and it's only in Seattle
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a million questions. Well, yeah, I'm planning a new tour starting in

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September, but Seattle is the only
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so that's why I just love it
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out, but I'm just waiting for
everybody to post the tickets before I start

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promoting it. But this will be
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new material tour and try to work
on a new hour and I'll probably yeah,

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do crowd work too, just just
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won't be it won't be forced I
think new material tours are cool. Kevin

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Hart just did a little one a
similar thing. A few years ago.

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Weird Awl went out and it was
like Deep Cuts, only if you want

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to hear eat it, do not
come. You're just going to be disappointed

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the diehards. I love that kind
of show that just is all right,

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we're just having fun here tonight.
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makes me feel like I'm actually,
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a show and they don't really know
who I am, they probably wouldn't care

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about it, or maybe they wouldn't
have a good time. But I think

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for people who know me and know
me from my clips and stuff, I

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think that would be really cool for
them to see the process, see behind

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the scenes of like how I come
up with my stuff. And different shows,

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different venues, different days of the
week, different timeslots, different expectations.

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Tuesday night, you show up at
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different than your name being on the
marque at a theater, right, yeah,

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yeah, But I don't know.
I think that if people are coming

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to see me, it's my headlining
show. They probably have listened to my

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album or seen my reels and stuff. I don't know if they want to

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see those again. So to me, I'm like to just like try new

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things and work it out with them. But I don't know if other people

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like that, or if I just
liked how timely or topical do you like

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to get You like to dive into
particular current events, which I'm not going

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to get into. You stay away
from all that. I like to stay

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away from it. I think we
get enough of that and people, Yeah,

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that's all the late night talk shows
are, so it's going to be

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done, all the topical stuff,
so I focus on other things. I

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do like to al write jokes.
If I'm in a a new city,

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I'll write jokes about that city or
observations or whatever. But that's the only

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really topical thing I'll do. So
is that just walking around and taking it

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in by osmosis or is that asking
a local for a topical joke or yeah,

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just walking around or even reading about
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I'm going into cities that I've never
been in and I don't know anything about,

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so it is I think interesting just
to see my observations from one who's

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never been there before, in the
vibe of the city or the vibe of

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the people that I've met. And
that's why I do crowd work too,

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because everybody is different in every city, so I got to get to know

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what they're all about. What do
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What do your other things? I
love movies, like I'll just go watch

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movies below. Just being outside,
like I love camping and rock climbing and

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just hanging out with family. I
don't know, I'm pretty boring, just

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boring, that's awesome. I tried
doing indoor and I discovered I have this

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terrible fear of heights. I was
like, I did it exactly once.

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I'm hitting the rope and I'm like, did you, And all of a

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sudden, I had that innate response, Oh my god, I'm forty feet

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up, bah get me out of
here. I never knew I had this

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fear. It is. It's scary, even like when you're used to it,

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the heights are still scary because it's
a if something goes wrong, it's

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over. But I think that's why
it's exciting too. It's like that adrenaline

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rush I guess it's similar to comedy
that makes your heart beat a little bit

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faster. So how does one do
it? Do you need an organized crew?

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I assume you need at least a
buddy, right, you're not going

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out there yourself and climbing or Yeah, you have buddies. Climbing buddies,

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they're pretty easy to find. It
got like really popular, so now the

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gyms are like way too crowded in
LA especially. Do you have any other

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projects coming up that we should know
about other than the album? After the

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album, I filmed a special which
has some of the chunks from the album,

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but a lot of new stuff too. I'm editing that now with the

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director and I'm not sure when it'll
be out, but that's something that's coming

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up. And I'm filming another I
don't tell taping next week, so that'll

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be coming out too at some point. So I have, yeah, a

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lot of content coming out which hopefully
people like. I'm scrolling through my notes

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here and one thing that cracked me
up when I was doing the prep.

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I don't know how often you google
yourself or not. Are you familiar with

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this other Emily in Pittsburgh that reviews
food? Yeah, actually, I'm working

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on a joke about that. See, I was going to commentate with you

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could wreck her life if you wanted
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oh that's hilarious, right, I
won't. I don't want to ruin your

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joke. I feel like she probably
has heard of me, but I don't

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know because I get a lot of
messages from There are a lot of Emily

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Catalanos out there, so I'll get
message of the dms like hey, nice

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name or something like that. But
yeah, she's the one who I'm the

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most familiar with it because I set
up like a Google alert for my name.

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Sure, and it's only her.
I don't get any press. It's

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always her. So that's what I'm
start doing a killer ten minutes about it's

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her. I'm sure even ben to
pitt alert. But I would like to

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get a great city and then I'll
invite her. She can fantastic me two

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her favorite food spots. Thank you
for your time today, best of luck

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with the album, and looking forward
to the upcoming special. Oh yeah,

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