Dec. 8, 2025
Government takes a shot at Marcelo Hernandez
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Callaroga Shark Media.
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Hey there, Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news. I'm
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actually recording this one on Saturday. Still no boiler. It's
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forty seven degrees in the kitchen, and you may hear
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my voices a little blown out from screaming over the
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DJ at the wedding of Friday night. But all is
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good here in the basement studio. Later today, around noon Eastern,
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I will release a bonus episode with the Comedy Survivor
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selection show. The executive committee, which is me, has met
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and named the sixteen comedians that will take place in
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Comedy Survivor coming to this feed in January. We'll talk
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about that at noon. Leading off today, Marcelo Hernandez in
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the news. Now he does two things well, one of
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them is Domingo and variance on that, and the other,
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of course, is a Sebastian Maniscalco impression. He got dragged
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into the White House's battle with Sabrina Carbenter. Sabrina was
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unhappy that the White House had used some of her
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songs in a post celebrating the work of Ice. They
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deleted that post, and then they posted a new clip
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of Sabrina Carpenter doing a commercial for her recent SNL appearance,
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with the audio overdub so that she appears to be
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calling cast member Marcelo Hernandez illegal instead of hot. In
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the original clip, this is just you know, I've been
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doing the bit about the president, and I disagree on
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some of the issues, one of them mis Seth Meyer's
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been doing that bit, but like, come on, guys, what
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are you doing here? The original SNL commercial Sabrina still
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alongside Marcelo and said I think I might need to
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arrest someone for being too hot. Hernandez said, oh well,
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I turned myself in. In the White House version of
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the clip, the over dubbed audio now has a voice
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like Carpenter saying too illegal. The caption reads, PSA, if
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you're a criminal illegal, you will be arrested and deported.
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All right, let's take a listen to what these idiots did.
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I think I might need to arrest someone for being
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too illegal. Oh well, I turned myself in. You're under arrest.
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I mean, it's not even a good edit. It like
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it's just what are you doing? Just what are you doing?
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From Wreussell Talk your Home for Comedy News, Tony Hinchcliff
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said he turned down a WWE writer role earlier in
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his career, Hinchcliffe was on Rogan's podcast. However, the role
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would have required Tony Hinchcliff to move to Stamford, Connecticut,
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which would have made commuting for his comedy commmits rather annoying.
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Hinchcliffe said, yeah, it was only a couple of years
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into me doing stand up, like seven nights a week
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at the comedy store all the time. Someone's like, hey,
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I have a friend at WWE. If you want to
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have a meeting with them and just talk. I went
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in with trade up ideas like the Undertaker's brother comes
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back again. I can't even remember any of them, it's
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been so long, but I went in with the whole
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thing and the guy's like, this is crazy. You just
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did this, and I'm like, yeah, I found out a
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couple of days ago. We were going to talk. They
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offered him the gig, but he said, I would have
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had to move to Connecticut and take a train in
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New York every night to go do stand up, and
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that would have been exhausting. If it was anywhere else
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other than Connecticut, it kind of would have made sense.
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If it was New York City, it would have been
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a no brainer if it was in La definitely w
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Camal Bell is not happy with Friend of the Show
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Jason Zinneman. Bell wrote on his substack hate New York
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Times Louis c. K doesn't need your help subheading when
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a newspaper has only one stand up comedy critic, they
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actually have none. This is a lengthy substack post from Bell.
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I'll pick away at it. He writes, The New York
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Times only has one dedicated stand up comedy critic. When
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they first hired him in twenty eleven, I thought, yay,
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the New York Times has taken comedy seriously. But more
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than a short period of time, I came to realize
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that a newspaper that only has one comedy critic only
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has one sense of humor. This is a problem because
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comedy is as diverse as a discipline as any other
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art form. It would be like if The New York
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Times only had one music critic. We all know that
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would be ridiculous because the classical music critic has no
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business reviewing pop music. When you google New York Times
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music critic, you get a bunch of different names. Only
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one name comes up. When you do the same with
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the phrase New York Times comedy critic Jason Zinnamon all right,
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I'm gonna jump in there. If you're a regular listen
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to this program, you know Jason's been on several times,
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and I've had lengthy hour conversations with them. I've never
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met any conversation we've had. You've heard ninety eight percent
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of it on this podcast, other than you know, the hey,
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I'm gonna hit record now part of our discussions. Seems
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like a really cool guy, seems like a level headed guy.
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As I often say, I know more about comedy than say,
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ninety eight percent of the general population, and then the
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people that know more about comedy than I do know
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a lot more. And Jason's in that second camp. I
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also believe, and I'm gonna fact check this here as
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I talk and type, I believe his title is critic
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at large, not so much specific comedy critic. So I'm
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on ny Times dot com right now, and Jason's byline says,
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I am a critic at large for the Culture section
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of the New York Times and write a column about comedy.
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Jason's own words here what I cover, skipping down to
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the second paragraph. Since becoming the paper's first comedy critic
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at twenty eleven, I focused on stand up specials, but
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I also keep an eye on improv, sketch podcasts, plays, musicals,
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TikTok accounts, and any other forms in which jokes are made.
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As a critic at large, I also like to write
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about movie theater and books, but never seem enough time
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to do it now. As someone who puts this show
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together every day, and and I'm a paid subscriber to
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The New York Times, I believe and I could kind
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of prove it here. Other people write about comedy for
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The New York Times. I just typed in search query comedian,
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and as I record this on Saturday morning, it is
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ten thirty eight am the time, just telling me. Six
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hours ago Hannah Ziegler posted an article in the Arts
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section and the headline bouble for a day, but he
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can't sing, And there's a little resemblance subheader. Dan Permlan,
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a comedian, looks and sounds nothing like Michael Boublay, and
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for some reason he was hired to impersonate the Crouner
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at a birthday party. The next one that surfaced is
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from August and Zennaman, then one from September twenty eighth,
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Also in the arts section, Mark Marin and other comedians
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rebuke Piers in Saudi Festival. That's from Derek, Bryce and Taylor.
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I guess, to be fair to mister Bell, that's commentary
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and not a critic piece. But you get where I'm going,
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and I don't want to bog down in this. There's
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plenty here. Bell rights. While I do occasionally read Zinneman's work,
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I read it because it concerns my industry, not because
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I need his particular critics eye. And yes, a big
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part of the reason I don't seek him out is
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because when he found space to mention me, it was
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clear he was not a fan. Here's the time he
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squeezed a short review of my Netflix special Private School
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Negro into one of his columns. Belle then quotes Zinneman
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is writing Bell's new special seems a little tempid. His
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stand up was never danced with punchlines. But Private School
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Negro veers further from a tight club set toward a
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mix of storytelling, jokes and arguments. It's a rambling, sometimes
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overly familiar hour. Again, I am friendly with Jason Zenman,
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so I admit I come with a bias here, But
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I don't think that paragraph I just wrote to you
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is like absurd. Getting back to what prompted this piece
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from Bell. On November twenty one, Zinneman reviewed one of
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Louis c K's recent stand up shows at the Beacon Theaters.
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Zenneman's lovingly crafted prose describes in detailed the current evolution
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of Louis's career. See Jason is concerned that too few
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people know that Louis still a great comedian. This concern
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seems particularly bizarre and unfounded because Louis in the middle
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of a comedy tour that's mostly sold out. It's not
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like Louis playing small clubs. Louis playing at the kind
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of venues you play when you're a super successful touring act.
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But you don't want to play the enormo done in
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the town, so instead you play a bunch of shows
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at the giant theater in town. In other words, Louis
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is literally living the stand up comedian dream. Louis doesn't
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need Zinnemen's helps writing his word, but Zinnamann does it anyway.
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Why again, I'll let Jasus speak for himself as an
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observer here. I think Jason went to Louis ck show
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during the New York Comedy Festival and thought the stand
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up was good, and he wrote about it, because that's
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what he does. Bell, quoting Zinnamon Zinnaman writing, in the
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seven years since c K admitted to sexual misconduct, the
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comedian has produced four different hours of comedy. It's a large,
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under examined, formally audacious body of work that represents a
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break from the past, but also continuity. Bell writes, under examined, mister, Zinnamon, A,
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you're trying to make us feel bad for not keeping
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up with Louis c K's work after his admission, et cetera,
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et cetera. Are you saying that CK's work is somehow
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so good it'll make us forget that he did the
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thing he did, et cetera, et cetera. Louis c K
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doesn't own anything from the public. His work isn't under examined.
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It is utterly discarded by the audience who thought he
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could trust him. Interesting. I mean yes to all this.
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I see what Belle saying. I think Jason Zinaman went
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to a show and is also pointing out CK has
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put out a bunch of things that people haven't seen.
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I mean, if we want to nitpick the word under examined,
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especially the examined part of it, I mean, sure, here
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in the basement where I have no boiler, I'd just
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like a good comedy fight a lot more from Camel
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Bell on his substack. If you want to check that out.
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If you listen to yesterday show, I told you Vulture
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has Night Thoughts as their number one comedy special of
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the year. There's now a trailer for it. Based on
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this trailer, I don't see how this is possibly the
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number one special of the year. But again I haven't
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seen it. But this is a year in which Mark
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Marin's special came out, and I don't see how this
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is going to be better than that. So let's listen
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to the trailer.
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Watching your movie made me want to get therapy. Oh
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that's good, that's clever. Do not get weird about the muscles.
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These muscles can't hurt you. These muscles are decorative. Never
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been in a fight for because I'm super good at apologizing.
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I am an immigrant. Are there any other immigrants here? Okay?
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What you can't do is point at someone else. I
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thought I was happy, and then every now and then I'd.
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Get very angry out of nowhere.
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I watched Bananas in the stake.
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Anyone remember what it was like buying marijuana before it
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was legal.
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You had to go to a guy's house, pretend to
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be friends with a guy.
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You had to like, watch a little bit of the
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Matrix with him. You guys get night thoughts when you're
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laying in bed in the middle of the night and
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you can't sleep, and your brain's like, here's something new
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for you.
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To worry about, or.
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You hadn't thought of that. It's because you're a little
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bit stupid.
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Night thoughts are like day thoughts, except they hate you.
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This was really keeping me up at night.
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White people, there's more.
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And for some reason it is bothering me. The voice
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that Kamil Nan Johnny uses during his stand up Now,
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to be fair, my friend Larry the Cable Guy does
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an exaggeration. Sebastian Manaskalko does an exaggeration, and I right
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now am doing an exaggeration. If I'm at the bar
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at trivia night, I'm not like Glenn, would you like
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a beer? I'm like, hey, you want to get another beer?
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My normal speaking voice would be something like that, like Hey,
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I'm gonna have a sip of my coffee right now.
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So this is a performance, and I'm up in my
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Johnny Mack delivery that my children make fun of. So
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maybe I'm being unfair. But in Kisha Curius, here is
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Kamail Nanjihanni on the Michael Rosenbaum podcast. Fun fact, Michael
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is my former intern. That's right, way back in the
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twentieth century at WR Radio. Michael Rosenbaum was my intern.
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And I got to give props to Michael when he
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was the intern making copies. He said he was going
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to Hollywood to become an actor and that he did,
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so I plot him. Anyway, here is Kamil Nan Johnny's
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normal speaking voice.
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