April 19, 2025

Guest Andy Woodhull discusses 'Beach Brain'

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac interviews comedian Andy Woodhull about his new comedy album 'Beach Brain.' They discuss the intricacies of recording comedy, such as the phenomenon of 'clater' and the authenticity of audience laughter. Andy shares anecdotes about his photo shoot for the album cover, talks about the importance of audio albums in an era dominated by video specials, and touches on his experience with clean comedy. The episode also highlights Andy’s podcast with fellow comedians and reflects on the evolving landscape of comedic material on social media.

Andy also has a fun podcast "Backyard Hang"

:Beach Brain on Youtube

The show concludes with a rundown of upcoming performances and festival highlights, including the final night at the Moontower Comedy Festival.

00:21 Interview with Andy Woodhull
03:02 Challenges of Comedy Production
06:02 The Evolution of Comedy Albums
13:10 Nate Land and the Future of Comedy
15:22 The Art of Working Clean in Comedy
16:33 Podcasting with Friends
17:39 Comedy Festivals and the Love for Standup
19:47 Navigating Social Media and Crowd Work
26:38 The Value of Clean Comedy
28:14 Upcoming Shows and Comedians to Watch
29:40 Moontower Comedy Festival Highlights

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Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your

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daily comedy news. I'm gonna jump right in today. I've

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got a guest in the first half. Then we'll take

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the break, and then i'll tell you a couple things

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on the comedy front. Andy Woodhole has a new album.

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It is called Beach Breen. It is his seventh comedy album.

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And here's my conversation with Andy. I was checking out

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your podcast and I loved that you went all inside

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baseball on the recording of the album. You told a

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great story about working in crowd laughter. I'll lead you,

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but I'd love for you to tell that story to

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my audience because I'm increasingly suspect of what I hear

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as laughs in Netflix specials. I've got an ear for it.

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Short story on me. I programmed serious XM comedy for

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ten years, so I sat at a desk listening to comedy.

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Rou Oh yeah, well, hey, thanks for playing me all

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those times.

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I'll come back and we'll talk about that a second.

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So for you know, ten years, I'm sitting there all

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day listening to the stuff, so I kind of know

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how audiences react, and I will hear stuff on some

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of these Netflix specials, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,

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So could you just tell the anecdote that I'm sharing

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from your podcast.

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Well, what I think you're talking about is I did

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a recording called Live from Elkhart, which you can find,

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and I only had one shot at it. Sometimes you

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have multiple shots, so if you don't get a joke right,

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you can pull it from the next set, but this

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one I had one shot at it, So any mistakes

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I did, I would just say, hey, I'm made a mistake.

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I have to do that joke over. I hope you

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guys don't mind. And then so I flubbed this joke.

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You know, I said a wrong word here, a wrong

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word there, left something out, and then I did it right,

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and the audience clapped like I had just finished playing

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Freeberg or something. It was an insane reaction. And then

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when we went to the editing, it doesn't mean any

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sense that this joke is getting that level of laugh So,

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while I will swear never on any of my comedy

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albums have I had them ad laughs. That was a

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moment where I said, you have to take some of

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this laughing and clapping away because it seems fake. It

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doesn't make sense.

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Are you running into clapter with audiences? I feel like

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that's something that's crept into the last ten years. There

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was one I don't want to throw anybody on a bus,

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but I was watching one comedian who is fantastic and

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he did this whole chunk and the audience clapped, and

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I'm like, I don't I don't think that's what you're supposed.

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To do there, folks. No, I don't get a lot

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of it because I don't think that I am writing

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that type of joke. And if there's anyone that doesn't

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know what you mean by clapter, it's when a comedian

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will say something that the audience agrees with and they

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will clap. It's more right then it's funny, and it's

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you know, it engages audiences, and I don't know, I

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suppose has its place, but that's not what I attempt

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to deal in.

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What made you decide to go within audio album? I

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appreciate it, you know, in the year of the Netflix special,

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the YouTube special, and I still program comedy radio for

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Live one, it is great to have, you know, an

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old fashioned album.

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Sure, sure, well it's not that. Let me give the

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most smart sounding decision. I guess, rather than everyone is

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putting out specials. There's all these specials that look amazing,

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they're highly produced, there's million dollar budgets. I am still

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basically a one man operation. Even though I did do

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this one with a comedy record label called Blonde Medicine,

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that are fantastic and they're putting out great comics and

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you should check them out and listen to everyone whose

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album they produce. But a million dollar production buzz it

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wasn't in the cards for me. So I thought to

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set my apart. I do something different. I do the

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audio album, which is how people have been finding my

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comedy for the whole time I've been doing comedy is

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through things like Serious and Pandora and Spotify, And as

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far as the video, it'll just be on YouTube and

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it'll just be a straight shots of camera. It's I

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didn't want to go halfway, you know. I could have

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spent a lot of my own money and I had

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a higher production value, but it wouldn't look as good

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as a Netflix special, and so I decided it is

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what it is. This is a side of the club,

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and if you want to see me doing it, you

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can see me doing it on YouTube, but otherwise it's

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It's so interesting to me that you say that as

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a comedian, because one of the things where you've been

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struggling with in podcasting is this whole Hey, you gotta

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be on YouTube, you gotta make a video podcast. And

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I've struggled with it. Yeah, because for my audience who

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were watching this on YouTube, this is what the show

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looks like. This is what me recording the podcast looks like.

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It's not very interesting. I'm fifty five years old. I

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self describe him somewhere between Troll and George Clooney. You

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can pick, but you know, I'm not a sexy, hot

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chick in her twenties where everybody's gon be like, oh,

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let me just randomly click on this thumbnail. It's a

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guy with a dumb backdrop and doing comedy headlines. So

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you know, I love that. I don't. I don't love,

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but I appreciate that you're going through the same kind

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of struggle of I can't keep it with a Netflix budget,

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like I explain, and I also teach a college class.

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and I've got a couch set up and a three

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camera shoot and proper lighting and a PR team. Yeah,

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or videos awesome, but a guy in his basement it's

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really hard.

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Sure. Yeah, low production as well. YouTube was supposed to be.

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That's what I think it was for a while.

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What it was supposed to be, and now it's it's

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great and those things are great, but now it's no

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longer as much do it yourself unless you want to

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just watch someone's AI edited video, which I I don't.

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Yeah. Yeah. For the album Beach Breen, I was intrigued

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by the cover. I'm a Beach Boys fan, and there's

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definitely whoever put it together, and maybe you, hopefully you,

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because it'll make a more interesting conversation. Definitely went for

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that nineteen sixties album cover Vibe. The fonts are right,

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the colors are right. Where the where did the album

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cover come from?

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Well, I'll take partial credit for the album cover. A

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lot of the credit goes towards the good folks over

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there at Blonde Medicine, because this is the seventh time

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I've put out an album and I have never had

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a photo of myself on the cover because I always

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felt like when the guy is on the cover of

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the comedy album. You know, he's making a face.

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Like I hate that. Oh my god.

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Yes, I didn't know. You know, I never quite felt

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like what my face on a cover. So everyone I've

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done up until now has been an illustration, and I

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wanted to do an illustration again, and people at Blonde

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Medicine kind of pushed back a little bit, and they said,

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we think you've never had your face on the cover

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of an album. I think it's time to put your

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face on the cover of an album, especially because things

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I've done in the past that have been really popular.

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I look much younger, I don't have a beard. You know,

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people have a hard time even recognizing me from my

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own self from ten years ago. So they convinced me

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to do that. So there was a photo shoot, which

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was uncomfortable because it's in public. It's not like you're

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in a studio. Because I wanted to do it at

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the beach, so people are taking photos and I actually

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ran into this guy that I was just like a

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guy I casually say hi to walking my dog at

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the beach, and he saw the whole photo shoot and

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then asked me about it. It was incredibly embarrassing and yeah,

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I don't know. I had the idea to set on

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the beach. I wore the outfit because it's an outfit

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my wife bought for me. I agree that I think

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it has a cool like beach boys vibe, But I

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can't take credit for the outfit. That's I just could

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rested by the woman that loves me at the time

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in my life, and I'm great with it. I like

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living that life, and so she gets the credit for

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the outfit. They get the credit for deciding to do

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a photo shoot, and I believe they also have a

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graphic designer in house that did the final design. But

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the photo on the beach with the beach stuff was

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was my idea?

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It is Santa Monica. Yeah, so you just.

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Walk out over there to a photo shooting, go.

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apartment to the beach. I did a photo shoot in public,

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like I'm an Instagram model, and I was spotted by

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an acquaintance and it was incredibly embarrassing. And yeah, anyone

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that's had to get their photo taken just knows it's

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a little embarrassing to have, you know your photography, giant camera,

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they're inches away from your face. They always seem way

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closer than they need to be, and it's embarrassing in

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a studio. So I did mine publicly.

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The thing that caught my eye, and you can make

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fun of me in the schoolyard, and I know you

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agree to do this interview so that we could talk

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about the cover for twenty minutes. It is the Igloo

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cooler and I have one of those in red, but

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mine is from nineteen seventy six, and I know that

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because there's a bi centennial sticker on it that either

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my mom or I put on in seventy six. And

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as I was just thinking about this interview, I'm like,

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my wife and I liked it because of that kind

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of retro design and Easter egg on the album cover.

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That cooler is the first thing we ever bought together

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as a couple. We pitched in I think twenty dollars

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each and bought that forty dollars cooler. And if you

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zoom in tight, there's a sticker of my older specials

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on the cooler.

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Oh nice, and you're going to have.

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Century sings there? Yeah, I hope, so, I hope. So.

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So you talked about the royalties from digital play, which

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is a nice thing. I'll tell you a story is so,

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when I first started It's serious, the initial reaction from

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the comedians was you're stealing my material. Da da da da,

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And then people realized they were selling tickets off it.

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But then I was backstage with Ron White, who found

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out what I did for a living, and he was

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very happy to meet me because he had gotten a

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nice significant check with I think at least five zeros

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in it. So that guy rid of a whole like

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you're a stealing armt. Well that was because we had

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blue collar radios that we were playing every fifteen minutes.

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But you know that that money's nice there. I wish

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more people would put out audio.

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Uh huh, yeah, well I think do people not always

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put out audio as well as video? I would think

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that every Netflix special has an audio version? Is that

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So then the Netflix thing is one of my pet

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peeves that again on the Soapbox, I personally wish Grammys

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would go to audio things and not Netflix specials. I

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think we oh yeah, Emmys for a Netflix special. So

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what Netflix will often do is they'll take something like

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Chappelle and they'll put it on vinyl and they'll sell

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it in the cool record store in Portland, and there's

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one hundred copies of it. But technically it's an album.

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But you know something, if you wanted to get you know,

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Dave Chappelle's most recent special on a CD to drive

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around in your car. That's not a thing anymore.

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I don't know if you can get anyone. I mean

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even this one that I made that's audio only. I

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don't think you can get a CD anyway.

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have a CD player in the car or the computer.

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I've probably got one in the back somewhere.

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But I sold CDs for a little bit longer than

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I should have, probably because the reason I stopped selling

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it because this is an easy thing to sell. After

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the show CD and the amount of people that just

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want to tell me they didn't have a CD player

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got to an amount where I decided to stop selling that.

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You don't want to embarrass yourself and be like, hey,

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I'll scan a QR code and it'll download.

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I did that. I did do that for a while,

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and it wasn't that it was embarrassing. I felt that

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I wasn't giving people something. You know, it was like

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a paper and then I had like higher quality kind

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of plastic ones, but I still felt like, you know,

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if someone wants to buy something after a show, they

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want something, and the QR code, although it gets you

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to the album, and it works, and that's how people

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do things because things like Spotify and Pandora and serious

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are so popular and those albums are available for free,

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especially you know, the streaming services like Spotify and Apple

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Music where you can click and listen to it straight

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through whenever you want. I think you just weren't getting

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something when you did the QR codes, and I was

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sad to see the CDs go because now I have

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to lug around bags of T shirts to show after shows.

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You talked about your look changing over the years. Sometimes

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when I'm on the back end of stuff, I'll pull

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up a Naperghetti album and I'm so used to him

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with the salt and pepper hair that when I see

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the younger version of him on an album cover. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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that's what you look like. I mean, we all get older.

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You did one of his Nateland showcases.

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How is he?

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How was that? How's it working with that crew?

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They're really Yeah, they're very cool. I think they're doing

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a neat thing in comedy because comedy has transitioned to

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this online model, you know. I mean still like Netflix

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and Hulu now and other streaming services will be putting

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out specials and that's great and people are finding comedy

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like that. But comedy used to be on Comedy Central

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and on late night TV spots, and that's where you

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would find new comedians. And Comedy Central used to always

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have a show that would showcase people you haven't heard of.

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I think there was Premium Blend, and then the one

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I did was called Live at Gotham, and I think

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there was one after that, like Adam Devine's House Party

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or something like that, and it was this cool place

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where you could see a little taste of someone you've

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never seen before, and that person didn't have to already

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have a million followers to be in that position, and

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that has gone away. The TV has gone away from that,

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and so I think the coolest thing that Bargatsy is

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doing is through his own record label, production company whatever,

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he has recreated that show where he's introducing the world

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to comedians that are funny and otherwise don't have a

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platform other than you know, the platform that we all have,

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or we can put things on our own. But I

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think it's cool that he kind of picked up that ball,

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that premium blend Lavigotham ball and is rolling with it.

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And that's what Nyland it is, and of course it's

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a Bargatsi products, so everything is squeaky clean over there too,

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if that's what you're into.

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And I think that makes a lot of sense. I'm

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no prude. I like my share of the swear words.

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But I remember the first time I met Foxworthy and

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this is we're putting together blue Collar Radio, and he

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was explaining to me. He said, I used to you know,

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work the same way as everybody else. And he held

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his hands like this kind of close together, and he said,

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and then I stopped cursing, and I picked up the

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kids and the grandmothers and he stretched his arms and

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that was his whole mindset. You know. I think the

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the art of working clean is if you don't notice it,

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you've nailed it.

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I totally agree. I don't. I mean, I have been

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clean for several years now as far as my stand up,

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and I don't necessarily like advertising the shows as clean

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shows because I think that comes with kind of a

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stigma of boring. If you tell me, do you want

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to watch this clean comedian? I don't, but I will

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watch someone like Ryan Hamilton who is clean, and then

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you don't. It doesn't even hate you tell somebody brings

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it up. Oh yeah, he didn't curse. Oh yeah, And

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that's what I hope people are saying after they listen

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to this new album or the last couple albums that

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I've made.

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And I think there's an effect too if you were

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mostly clean and a well placed swear word, that can

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really just you know, punch a joke for affect, you know.

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Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that too. It really

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uh yeah, it's fun to have one curse in the set. Yeah,

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nobody's mad about one curse. You can curse once and

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people won't say that it was filthy.

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I like your podcast. It's nice and easy on the ears.

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It appears to be an actual backyard and not a

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set because.

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You guys are cold, it is and we are cold.

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Sometimes it is. It's Tommy Johnigan's backyard and it's comedians

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hanging out. We each bring different topics. We have some

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recurring segments and honestly, my favorite thing is those are

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two of my best friends, Tommy and Alex Stone, and

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doing the podcast gives us a reason that we have

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to get together at least once a week, and it's

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pretty great.

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Is everybody good about holding to the schedule, because that's

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one of the pains of doing a podcast with somebody else,

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you know, Oh, I'm not around well.

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You know for sure? Yeah, for sure. There'll be times

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when people are busy and we'll have people fill in,

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or just two of us will do it when we can.

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But I would say for the most part, we're able

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to always get together and we usually record on Sunday

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or Monday, and we usually don't decide until sometimes Sunday

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afternoon when it's gonna.

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Be About two weeks ago, you did that Rhode Island,

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that Rhode Island Festival Roady I think it was called.

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Oh yeah, Little Roady Comedy Festival.

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There that looked like it was awesome. How was that?

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It was very cool? You know, they put together such

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a cool, very cool festival, and it was great for

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the comics. My only regret is that I could go

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for the whole thing. I was just kind of in

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and out. I was only able to make it on

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the day for my show and then I left the

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next day. But yeah, they put together amazing an amazing thing,

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and it is just so fun to be involved in

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something with people that care about comedy and love comedy,

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because you know I do. I love I love stand up.

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I love doing stand up. I feel so lucky to

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get to be doing stand up. And sometimes you do

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a show and it's all about how many tickets did

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you sell? What was it that? Why? Bye bye? I

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don't know who even knows what I'm saying. And these

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people just genuinely love stand up and you can tell

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that by how they put the shows together and how

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they treated the comedians.

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At a festival where we have more time, do you

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go see other people's shows or is it more about

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hanging with the.

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Yeah, for sure, I are to do yeah, yeah, because somebody,

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you know, we've been doing comedy for a long time,

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so uh, you know, any given festival, you're gonna know

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some people, be friends with some people. There's gonna be

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some people that you will become friends with if you

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have a chance to hang out with them. And there's

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usually hangs after the shows or like events during the day,

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and plenty of time for people to get together that

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are often on the road, and you know, just ships

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passing in the night. I guess you know you'll see

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You'll be at a club and you look at the

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poster like, oh, this month, they're having three people that

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I love. I wish that I could say hi to them,

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But you're just not at the same place at the

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same time. You know, everybody's got their favorite work friends,

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and when you're a comedian, they're usually spread across the

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entire country on any given night. So when you have

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a chance for people to be in the same place,

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it's it is special. It's very fun.

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How are you feeding the beast these days on social

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media and up burning material? Are you doing crowd work

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or how you handling that nightmare?

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I will do. I mean, I do crowd work in

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my act, but it is not set. It is not

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