Has Crowd Work ruined the live stand-up experience? - with Dan Bublitz Jr.

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Callaroga Shark Media. Today on this
program a conversation with comedian Dan Boobletz Junior.

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We talked about the industry, Pete
Davison's situation, Seinfeld Mulaney, and

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whether or not Dan will have his
own celebrity bourbon. We'll get into that.

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And I'm laughing here. This is
actually take five. I got up

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this morning and I'm like, I
need to do an intro real quick,

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and I haven't had my coffee yet. Here's Dan. I just recorded Friday's

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episode and I named check you.
I was doing a Pete Davidson's story about

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him getting heckled night. I told
the listeners, I'm going to ask Dan

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about this the question Dan has crowd
work ruined stand up comedy? Okay,

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so I do have some feelings about
this. I've seen two things, two

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observations that I have seen since all
these crowd clips have been going on,

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like TikTok and ig reels, and
that is one, people don't want to

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sit up front anymore in a comedy
show. But the other side of it

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is they do want to sit up
front, hoping that they'll be part of

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the show, that they'll be part
of that viral clip. That's worse.

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It is worse. It is.
But yeah, so that's one thing I've

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noticed, like because I produce shows
too, and a lot of times,

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you know, we're just doing shows
like in breweries or whatever, so it's

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just open seating, and people will
not sit up front if they can get

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away with it, Like they'll come
in if the room is completely empty.

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They always go to the back.
They don't want to sit up front because

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they're afraid the comics are going to
talk to them. I mean yeah,

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even back in the day, I
never wanted to sit in the front either.

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I get it. It's kind of
just be annoying. Oh absolutely.

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I mean I haven't experienced it a
ton myself, but you can tell when

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people are coming in if they're the
kind of people that are trying to be

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part of the show, because they're
already act in a fool before the show

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even starts, and it's just awful. Yeah. So parably, Pete Davidson

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was trying to just do a show
and people kept yelling out Ariana Grande and

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he walked off. Oh wow.
But the reactions, at least what the

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newspapers are capturing on Reddit was good
for you Pete like people aren't mad that

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he walked off. I feel like
the vibe I'm getting is that audiences have

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gotten worse somehow post pandemic. I
think so a little bit. I mean

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it again, I contribute some of
this to the crowd work clips too,

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Like we've kind of opened a Pandora's
box with it, you know, because

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comics don't want to post their material
because you know, they feel like they're

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birding it or whatever, so they'll
try to get these crowd work clips so

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they have content to put out.
And yeah, and because of that,

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we've opened this weird you know,
almost like we've given them permission to come

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be this way at shows. So
it's kind of, in a way,

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it's kind of our own faults as
comedians for doing that. Are the comedians

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that are posting the crowd work clips. I try not to do crowd work

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myself because I'm awful at it.
Well, there's also there's at least one

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guy a couple guys out there who
are comedian slams Heckler for blah blah blah,

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and all that crowd work maybe ain't
the most authentic. Oh absolutely,

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and you get that too. I
feel like now, especially now that crowd

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work clips and comedians are doing a
lot of it, it just seems like

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there's a lot of comedians and I'm
like, I go to a lot of

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comedy shows, and yes, hecklers
happen, but sometimes I'm like, really,

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you get heckled every time you have
a show. Come on fine with

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a plant. So this is not
your style. But if you didn't act

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and you put me in the audience
as a plant and I yelled out,

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you know, hey, your glasses
look dumb, and then you and I

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start having an argument and I come
up and rush the stage, and you

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know, whatever the bit is,
that's fun. I've seen that execute well.

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But for me to just sit in
the audience and go like, you

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know, hey, nice glasses just
so you can slam me for a cheap

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joke, it's lame. Oh absolutely, that's funny that The way you described

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that as the playant reminded me of
your favorite actors movie Happy Gilmore, when

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Shooter mcgaver sends in the plant to
harass him. The community on the Facebook

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group Daily Comedy News Podcast Group,
it's been really good. Everybody's kind of

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starting to come together and cross pollin
eate. I love conversations that don't involve

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me at all. I like having
the community. So one of the more

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known listeners out there is Scott Beckett. So just to ruin Scott's day,

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let me ask you that Joe Coy
famous insult comic one time at the Golden

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Globes he went after Taylor Swift.
Let me play the clip for you just

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in case you haven't heard it before. As you know, we came on

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after a football doubleheader. The big
difference between the Golden Globes and the NFL.

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On the Golden Globes, we have
fewer climber shots of Taylor Swift.

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So what do you do this,
Joe Coy? Oh, man, I

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tell you he shouldn't be insulting America
sweetheart, because that backfired. I think

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it's that bet is kind of funny, but also I kind of agree with

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Scott. It's a little you can
really beat a joke down, So but

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I also love your commitment to it. I come from the belief of everything

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has a cycle. It's funny and
then it becomes not funny at all,

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and I think that's where some of
the audience got. And then another segment

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of the audience is with me that
I've beaten it down so far that it's

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now back to being funny. That's
where I am with it, yep,

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because you kind of for it.
Oh yeah, absolutely, And I can

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appreciate that. The joke itself though, I think it's kind of funny because

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if you listen to the clip,
he couldn't even tell the joke, like

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he started laughing, and I feel
like that threw off the delivery of the

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joke because as he was getting ready
to say camera he starts to kind of

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laugh and he was trying to hold
it together and is Gloden globes Yeah,

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yeah, like he was fumbling over
his I was almost like he was too

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nervous to do it. But I
don't know. I feel like if he

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would have delivered it without those little
fumbles, it probably would have been fine.

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And also, you know, putting
the bit aside, as I've said

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on the pod, if Taylor just
smiles at it and goes ah hah,

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then it's fine. She iced him, and I don't think that helps.

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He wasn't having a great set and
I think is a good comic. I'm

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okay with Some people got upset and
felt that he threw his writers under the

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bus. I thought he was just
riffing, trying to save a set and

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explaining, like, I've had this
job for nine days, what the hell

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did you want? That was the
vibe. I God, I think he

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was burying his writers. No,
I don't. I mean he kind of

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did, because he blatantly, you
know, said he'd get right to stuff

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or whatever. But but again I
would agree. I think he was just

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struggling because he knew he was bombing, and he was just trying to bring

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it back. And that's sometimes that
happens when you're on stage and it's not

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going well, you're just reaching for
whatever. You're trying to find that that

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life raft. You know, do
you keep in your back pocket, like

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you know in ninety seconds that you
just know works, that you just don't

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use otherwise. No, I mean
what I usually do is if I'm doing

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some jokes and they're not going well, I'll try to switch it up.

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Because they do have jokes that are
proven and I know will probably work.

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I don't necessarily save them for just
in case. I mean, at some

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point in my set, I'll probably
get to them, but I might change

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the order, you know, like
I might have it planned that I'm going

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to do these jokes later in my
set, but early on my jokes aren't

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hitting. I'm gonna switch it up
and I'm gonna go to this stuff that

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I know will work to try to
win the audience back, so I'll do

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an audible on the order. I
remember back in the day when I worked

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with Jim Brewer. I used to
love watching him in front of crowds because

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he would look out and you could
see his brain going, all right,

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who's in front of me right now? I remember what time we were at

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the auto show and he's like,
right now, it's dad's with young kids,

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and he kind of switched off his
stoner goat boy act and went into

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his family material, and it was
just ready to watch him to see who's

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in front of me? What is
this group going to laugh at? And

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let me go there. Yeah,
that's why I think it's important to you

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know, a lot of comedians probably
don't want to do this, you know,

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they'll go hide in the green room
or whatever. But I feel like

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it's important kind of watching as the
audiences is coming in and just kind of

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observing, because you know, reading
the room and watching the comic before you,

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so you can kind of get a
sense of who is this audience because

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then if you need to adjust,
you can. And you want the guy

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before you to do well. Right, You're not like, oh yeah,

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no, no, no, I'm
not saying watch yeah, yeah, you

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do want them to do well.
I'm saying just so you can observe the

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audience, because then you can see
what's working what's not when you're watching the

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other comics. The other comic might
be, you know, doing millennial jokes,

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and the audience could be boomers and
they're just not gonna connect because it's

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not relatable or whatever. But you
know, you can get a pretty good

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read of the room the audience,
so then if you need to adjust,

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you can do that. And that's
because that's kind of what I do.

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Like, I know that some of
my jokes aren't going to work in some

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situations because I'm pretty nerdy. I
do some nerdy material, And I know

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that my preferred audience is my age
plus or minus about ten years. I

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really reached that Gen X audience.
But I can perform for all audiences,

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you know, and still be funny. I feel like lately i've been maybe

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it's the amount of specials and watch
them all at once. I feel like

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I've been analyzing comedy a lot more
than I have in a few years.

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We definitely used to do this back
at Serious and I've talked about this before.

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I remember seeing someone I want to
say, maybe with prosine, and

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I felt like I could see the
matrix of the premise based in fact premise

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exaggerated thing that never actually happened,
but it's funny callback, And I was

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sitting watching a set going I can
see this happening. Lately, I've been

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on a run of noticing things that
sound like comedy. So I'll just do

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like a and I'm not a comedian, as I always bring up on the

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pod, but I'll bring up like
Bob Hope style joke of like, you

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know, hey, just see General
Johnson's here, Yay, he probably just

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came for the free hot dog.
Like it's not funny, but it has

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the rhythm of a joke. And
if I dropped that in the middle of

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a set and I had a proper
persona that could get a laugh even though

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I don't even know what that joke
quote unquote meant. You're right, and

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there is a rhythm to it too, And I think that's like you said,

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it's a persona or a character,
because there are comics who really lean

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into a persona. And you even
talked about this on just the other day

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when you were talking about Norton.
He's, you know, very soft spoken

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off stage, but on stage he's
like an animal, you know, yeah,

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you know, he's a nice,
quiet guy. And I was very

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happy reading that article. I'm glad
he found somebody he loves and he sounds

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super happy. And that's the gym
that I know. Switching gears. What

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do you think of Malanie? Oh? Well, I haven't watched his new

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special. I've heard some mixed reviews
from some friends because I have a friend

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of mine is a big comedy fan
and they watched it. They actually went

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and saw Pete Davison last week too, But I haven't watched his Dude special.

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But prior to that, I love
his work. He's in my top

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five of comedians. Anytime somebody either
like who's your favorite comedian of all time?

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I'm like, well, that's a
loaded question. We have to break

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this down because there's so many great
comedians. I break it down into two

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categories. No, longer with us, still with us. George Carlin Richard

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Pryor are probably two of the best
comedians of all time, but there are

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some great working comedians. For me, John Mullaney's one of my favorites,

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John Mlanie, Mike Burbig, Yellow
Mark Maron three of my probably tops.

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Did you see Milani's late night show? I have not. Now I'm so

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far behind on watching anything. It
seems like I just started get trying to

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get caught up on Hacks season three. Hacks season three is good. Well,

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I mean understandably you work nights and
weekends, yes, because when the

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rest of us are watching TV,
exactly totally get like, you know,

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hey, how come we're not watching
Saturday Night Live? What are you doing

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Saturday late night? You know?
Yeah, exactly, I'm trying to be

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them in front of a live audience. That makes it. I thought Molane

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it had a lot of early days
Letterman two. As they talked about on

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the pod, he really needs a
producer and a little bit of structure,

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but it was so much fun.
He had a really really short Limb TV

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series, like I think it only
had like I don't know, maybe a

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couple episodes before it got canceled a
Fox had come called Mulaney. Yep.

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It did ratings at the time like
a one to six, which in twenty

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twenty four would get you a ten
year commitment, but back in the day

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was an abysmal rating. But I
put that in the category of things that

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existed. You know, if you
said to somebody today, Hey, wouldn't

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it be cool if John m'laney had
a sitcom on Fox pre cancellation, wouldn't

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it be awesome if Louis c K
had a show on HBO? Imagine what

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a big hit that would be.
And you know, these things happened and

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nobody cared. Yeah, yep,
absolutely and that speaking of that, that

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show again, and you're right,
that was another show I felt like was

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underrated. I thought that show that
he had on HBO was better than the

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series he had on Fax. Like
obviously he had evolved and it was still

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as serious. But I really like
that series on HBO because they did it

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like a stage play. Yeah,
and it had a Honeymooners kind of vibe,

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like if Jackie Gleason were played by
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kind of setup, which is what
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I didn't watch a lot of because
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serious, I wanted to come home
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started watching the Universe because if a
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I didn't get bombed. Whereas when
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loved it, what would happen is
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hallway, and oh yeah, I
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if he'll be a guest on the
other show, and I got to get

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him a promo. And my boss
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I didn't do. Now i'd be
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No, I believe that one.
A lot of people are always asked

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me because I'm a comedian. They'll
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special comes out there like did you
see so and so it's new special?

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live comedy. I do so much
live comedy when I'm at home. If

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I want to watch something, I
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up comedy because to me, it
feels like work, even though it's not

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my material. But help but not
analyze like the comedic brain clicks in and

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I'll be watching, you know,
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see them do well and not necessarily
like their material, but I can see

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it and understand why it's working and
why the crowd likes what they're doing.

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stand up. I just started analyzing.

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I'm like, oh, I see
what they did there. Oh that was

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a pretty good call back. Oh
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know or whatever it is. So
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in my free time. I gravitate
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shows. So for the listeners,
Dan just explained what I've described in the

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past is what I call the Emperor
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though not a comic, never been
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the back of the room and same
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I see what he's doing here.
Okay, Oh that joke was better

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than the audience or I can't believe
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hear you. On the analysis last
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things I could have watched, like
Rachel, and I was like, I

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just I needed a break from just
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don't want to think about this at
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put Rachel on, I immediately start
going, oh is this one of the

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top twenty specials of twenty twenty four? When I say in the podcast,

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let me take some notes, let
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comedy special, so the people engage
with me, and like, sometimes you

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just got to get it away from
it. Yep. Absolutely, And like

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like last night, for example,
I co produced some shows here in

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Loveland, Colorado, where I live. I wasn't on the show, but

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we had a show last night,
so I was there, you know,

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helping with set up, tear down
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and I'm analyzing some of the stuff
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to like that mindset or whatever.
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even if I'm not on a show, I'm probably at a show because I'm

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producing it, so I see so
much of it live. I'm like,

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I don't want to watch it at
home. I need an escape. And

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your brain does get numb to it. It's like, logically, think,

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the laugh doesn't come out. That's why

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you know a comedian that really has
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not in a shock jock kind of
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I didn't see that one coming.
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happened last night with one of the
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and I thing it had to do
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the punchline, and the audience was
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and it was so funny because,
as he said it, I was walking

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out of the door because I was
taking pictures, and I go around the

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building instead of cutting through. Just
the way it's laid up and I was

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walking out as he landed the punchline, and I was like, Jesus Christ,

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and I said that out loud,
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on the street as I was coming
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just because it was like it's so
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like, I can't believe he just
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it. And I even told him
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dude, that got me so hard. So how much producing are you doing

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it? Are you booking nights or
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company called Loco Comedy, which is
Loveland Colorado Comedy. Also you know trains

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because Loveland's a big train place,
I guess. But anyway, so yeah,

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we produce a bunch of monthly shows
at different breweries, and you know,

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we get a hit up to do
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they become regular shows. So we
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here in Loveland. So Loveland is
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I think we're about one hundred thousand
people or whatever. But there's no

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comedy venues in Loveland proper. We
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Fort Collins, but it's still like
a half hour drive. Or you can

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go down to comedy works down in
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sometimes we'll get like Bert Kreischer was

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just here a few months ago at
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rialto Theater. Tom Poppa is going
to be there in July, so they

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do bring in some bigger acts to
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regularist thing until my co producer Jeff
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or six years ago and he started
producing shows here, and then when I

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moved here, we just started working
together now with you know, in addition

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to our monthly shows, we had
the Laugh Out Loveland Comedy Festival that we

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do the first weekend of August too. So yeah, we just go into

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breweries and turn them into comedy clubs. You know. We have one show

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called Loading Dock Laughs, and we
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brewery. But we turn it into
you know, there's a stage and we

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have a backdrop, we have lights. We literally turn it into like a

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comedy club. Like if you saw
pictures, you would not know people are

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performing on a loading dock. Oh
that's cool. It's fun to see a

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scene pop up like that. You
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Morristown, New Jersey area, so, depending on traffic, an hour west

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of New York City, so it's
far enough away, and there's just a

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burgeoning scene that there's a local bar
that's getting some people. I want to

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play nice. I see some of
the names coming to the bar and I'm

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like, that person is playing this
tiny little room at this bar, really,

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because that's surprising me, you know. And then I go the other

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way. I'll change the details because
I'm not here to hammer particular people.

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But somebody was telling me yesterday about
a nationality based tour. So let's pretend

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it's the the Irish American Warriors of
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said, there's just no way that's
good. It's just not going to be

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good. Let me look at it, you know. I pulled it up

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on Facebook and I'm like, I
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I'm not saying any everybody, but
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into this. I'm like, that's
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good because we're so close to Denver, we get some really good acts sometimes

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and then like our next one,
that's what I'm looking at. I don't

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I'm not as familiar with this comic, but we have a bigger comic coming

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from Comedy Central, Dave Ross.
Dave Ross has done Drunk History, it

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was on WTF, done a bunch
of other stuff or whatever, and we

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got here at one of our shows
coming up. So we're bringing in,

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you know, if they're in the
area, we bring in big headliners.

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had to cancel because he got sick,

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getting sick, but then Ben Roy
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good talent here too. So that's the

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other cool thing about it, because
we're bringing in nationally touring headliners to this

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little city that you know, this
little town, so and while you know,

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we don't really have a I guess
you could call it a scene,

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but I don't call it a scene
because there's only like four comedians that live

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in Loveland proper. So it's not
like we're doing a bunch of shows.

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But we're bringing comedy here and the
community really loves comedy. Like most of

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our shows are always packed, which
is great. No, that's great,

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And you start building a reputation,
cool room, cool people to work with,

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they actually pay you, you know, all that stuff that goes into

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it. You know, you get
a good reputation and word's bread. Oh

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absolutely, and it has. I
mean, we've had to turn venues down

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just because we already do all these
shows downtown and we'd just be competing with

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ourselves. Don't be offended. We
just don't want to oversaturate and then ruin

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all our shows. But if the
venue approaches us that's not in downtown Loveland

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or like I started doing a show
at the Spinyard in another town called berth

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End, which is basically just the
outskirts of Loveland. They approached us about

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doing a show, and I gave
them a quote and they accepted it,

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and we did a show, and
it was very successful. It sold out

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two weeks before we even had the
show. All because they have their own

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internal client base, we didn't have
to do a lot of advertising on our

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end. The show went really well, so they booked another one, which

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we're doing this Friday. Sold out
a week before the show. I had

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some people hit me up. They're
like, hey, I was trying to

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get tickets to the show Friday and
it says it sold out. Is that

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true? And I was like,
probably, but I'll double check and yeah,

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they were sold out already. That's
great. So yeah, so it's

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great to have like a community that
supports comedy. No, awesome, All

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right, let's go down the list
of the bigger comedians. Dave Chappelle.

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Wear you with Chappelle? These days, he can say whatever he wants because

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he's Dave Chappelle. Now, at
least that's what he thinks. I mean,

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there's always going to be consequences.
I have much respect. I mean,

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he definitely, you know, as
a definitely as a comedian can definitely

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respect him. I don't know,
I haven't watched a lot of his recent

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stuff, and I don't feel like
he's doing comedy as much as he's doing

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lectures these days. But a lot
of his older stuff great stuff, you

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know, Like he's so funny and
his cadence and stage presence and delivery is

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just on point. Yeah, And
I do feel like he's leaning into that

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I've been illustrating lately. And let
me go slow here so I don't accidentally

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cancel myself. For lett, anyone
just wrap him about to do is based

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in hate at all. But Dave
has a move now where he'll say a

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word, I'll illustrate it, and
then he does that knee slapping thing.

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So like if you said, yea, the early show is sold out,

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well you know why the late show
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trans And now I slap my knee
and I make the face and I laugh

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and I mug for the camera and
he's getting a laugh off of that,

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and I'll go back to it sounds
like comedy, yep, nope' And you're

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absolutely right. That's one thing that
I totally know what you're talking about there,

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annoying because he's actually he's done that

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a lot. If you look at
even his older stuff, and I noticed

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because there's a lot of comedians that
look up to him. I started seeing

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that when I was in San Diego. There were comedians like do an open

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mic set with same thing. They'd
like tell a joke and then like laugh

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at their own joke and do the
hit the mic on their knee, and

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I'm just like, oh, that's
so annoying. Sometimes I think, though,

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I feel like because of the stardom
that in the level of fame that

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he's achieved, I don't know necessarily, and I don't know him. I've

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never worked with him. I know
people who have and they say he's a

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nice guy, and sure that's the
case, So I don't necessarily think that

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he believe feels that way about.
You know, the issue per se is

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I think he's just doing it because
of his ego, like pushing it because

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he can get away with it kind
of thing. If that makes sense.

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Y, It's totally got that,
yeah, exactly. And when you do

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try to tell him what to do, then he leans in harder. I

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feel like it's I feel like it's
more of the ego that he's gotten from

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his fame more than anything. But
again, I don't know him, so

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I could be totally wrong. Too. What do you think of all the

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stuff with Jerry lately? It's just
been weird. It has been weird,

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and I honestly, I'm surprised that
he got a pass. I mean it's

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weird because you know, he did
date a seventeen year old when he was

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in his thirties thirtieth, which is
a weird thing. And every other comedian

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that has had some kind of controversy
regarding that kind of stuff, I mean,

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haven't been canceled, but they've been
you know, drug through the Ringer

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per se, and he didn't until
lately, which is weird to me.

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Yeah, it's interesting that it came
back thirty years later, but the Palestine

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stuff is sort of distracted from that, and the interview he did this week

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has distracted everybody. Again, but
Jerry's been in the news a lot,

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and I'm not sure for the right
reasons at all, And it's kind of

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weird too, Like, and you've
even brought this up on your podcast about

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the legacy. These comics are leaving
like they have a great body of work

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and then they lean into something and
then now that's what they're going to be

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remembered for. And it's just kind
of a weird thing. It's like,

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I mean, obviously people change and
they evolve over time, but still weird

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weird to me that you'll see.
I'll go the other way, and I

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toked with this. I would love
to see Jerry just go, you know

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what, I'm seventy years old,
I'm going all day and let me show

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you how good of a comedian I
am and do a forty five minute political

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chunk. It would be stunning,
you know, would be like Dylan goes

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electric but do it. Yeah,
yeah, I mean it would be interesting.

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I'm not going to disagree with you
on that. It would definitely be

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interesting to see him do that and
lean all the way in. But again,

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when they're you know, just these
small, well small bits that they're

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doing or you know, interviews or
sound bites or whatever you want to call

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them, and they kind of lean
into them, and then it's like,

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well, now that's all you're going
to be remembered for, is that last

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thing? Like you have all this
great work and then you went and did

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this. You really remembered for your
last thing. Yeah, it's true.

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That's why, you know, image
is everything, especially in entertainment. You're

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remembered for that last thing. Have
you thought about getting into bourbon as a

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comedian? Like, you're out of
a vodka guy, But if you have

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a boky, you'd like to plug
for seven minutes while I take a walk.

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Yeah. Sure. There's a great
distillery in Montana. Lolo Creek is

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the distillery, and it is a
honey huckleberry flavored vodka. You put it

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with a little bit of lemonade and
some ice, and you have yourself a

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marvelous summer drink. And I am
not being paid to endorse them. That

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is just literally my favorite vodka.
You managed to do that without losing all

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your coolness like some other comedians that
I won't name, but I think everybody's

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all right. What else is happening
in comedy? Who are you seeing out

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there? Who's good? Oh man, there's so many good people. I

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think the last time we talked I
probably mentioned him too. But he just

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keeps getting better and better, Zultan, because as is so funny, and

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he just keeps getting better and better
every time I see him. If you

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don't know who Zoltan, do yourself
a favor and go discover probably one of

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the greatest working comedians today. He
puts out material so frequently and just so

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good at it. He's gotten to
the point where he can go have an

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experience and then that night talk about
it on stage and it's just super funny,

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like it's already a joke. And
it's like every time I see him

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perform or I work with him,
he makes me want a quick comedy.

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I'm like, I'm not gonna be
good. You know, he's so good.

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I'm just like I can open for
him. I do open for him,

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but still I'm just like, oh, he's so good, I don't

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know if I'll ever get there.
So he's one of my favorites. Obviously

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working some other comics that I feel
like a lot of comics in Colorado Denver

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area has a really good working scene. There's a lot of working comics here.

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But another comic in this area that
started to blow up is Derek Strup.

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He is so funny. He's been
opening a lot for Bert Kreischer,

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John Christ and Dan A. Bergazzi, but he himself so funny. I

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saw him at the comedy for It
before, like when I first moved here,

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and I was just like, Wow, this guy is hilarious. He's

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just got like this because he's from
I think from al Arkansas, I don't

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remember which. He's from the south, but so he's got a little bit

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of an accent, but just the
way his delivery and everything and just he

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kind of has like a I don't
know, like an angry kind of delivery,

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and but it works. It's so
funny. So definitely check out Derek

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Strup. I've heard great things about
him. I know you have to go.

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We'll do this more often and more
frequently, but get all your plugs

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in. What are you selling us? All? Right? Well, you

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can find me on all my social
media d bubb Comedy. That's dbub Comedy

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everywhere at dbubbcomedy dot com com for
the website. And then yeah, I

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got a new podcast that I'm doing
a couple of new podcasts. I have

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a comic book podcast called Panel Picks, where me and another comedian we talk

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about comic books that are coming out
each week. And then I have an

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unofficial travel podcast called Drives, Drinks
and Dives I think is the name of

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it. It's a long name,
but it's with me and another comedian and

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we're talking about our ventures on the
road. And that's only a monthly podcast.

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Very accountant friendly. Wink wink,
nudge nudge, say no more.

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All right man, I will let
you go. This is a pleasure.

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Thank you, thanks for having me.