July 28, 2024

Is there too much comedy?

Show Notes
Transcript

00:36 Comedy and Controversy: Netflix's Dilemma
02:55 Dane Cook's Career Reflections
04:16 Chad Daniels and PETA Collaboration
05:52 Tig Notaro's Emotional Journey
06:54 Sam Morril on Podcasting and Comedy
07:47 Comedian Merchandise Reviews
10:14 Edinburgh Fringe Festival Suggestions
12:10 Matt Lyons and Outdoor Comedy

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Caloroga Shark Media. Hello, Tenny Man, I hear if your

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daily comedy news. Jimmy Fallon watched Biden's speech and said

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it was a very graceful speech, and then Biden surprised

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everyone by announcing his candidacy for twenty twenty eight. Cope

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Bears said Trump has had a lot of crazy stuff,

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but there's an explanation for that. He's crazy. Jimmy Fallon again,

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I don't know if you saw. Milania is putting out

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a tell All book. We'll see how tell All it's

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going to be. He said. At Malani's request, her book

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and Trump's book will be in the same store, but

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sold in separate sections. Cracked with the headline comedy has

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a Netflix problem. Netflix is a joke, but for all

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the wrong reasons. All right, Matt Solomon, what's your premise here?

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He quoted Neil Brennan appearing on The Joe Rogan Experience.

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I'm competing with everything that's ever been made. Is my

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new special better than The Godfather and every comedy special?

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Rogan said, yep, all the old stuff, all the new stuff,

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everything altogether. It's an insane time. Try to captivate people's attention. Now,

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it's an insane proposition. There's just so much available. Krack

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took this premise. The biggest conundrum Netflix poses for comedy

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is the same one that Laurene Michaels has at SNL,

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embracing controversial comics and broiled and public scandal. Shane Gillis

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tells homophobic, racist, and sexist jokes on podcasts. NBC kicks

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them off, but Michaels will sponsor his triumphant return, all

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in the name of social relevancy. Netflix is even worse.

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Sure it produces pro LGBTQ plus documentaries, It's right there

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in your comedy que next to transphobic specialist from Dave

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Chappelle and Ricky Gervais. Where does Netflix stand? Wherever it

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can to drive cultural conversation, even if that means playing

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both sides of the culture wars. Robbie Prau, who runs

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Netflix Comedy, says, some people's favorite thing to do on

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a Saturday night maybe to watch a Dave Chappelle special.

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But for some people it may be Taylor Tomlinson or

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Mae Martin, where Sarah Silverman or John Mullaney or Chris

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Rock And we don't want to block those choices for

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our members. Cracked Rights. May be a subscriber hasn't jumped

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on the service for a while, but what the heck.

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They're probably curious why everyone is soap mad at Matt

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Rife or Thom Segor or Rob Schneider. It's a natural

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desire to see what all the fuss is about, as

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it's turning out Netflix as a joke, but for all

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the wrong reasons. I don't agree with the premise of

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the article. First of all, Netflix is a commercial enterprise.

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They're going to put on the most popular stuff. If

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comedian X is popular, they'll get a Netflix special. I mean,

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I guess at some point something would be so extreme

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that Netflix or a different streamer would be like, we

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don't want to sponsor the I don't know, horrible thing.

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You can imagine comedy tour. You know, at some point

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there's a line. And maybe I'm just living here on

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Old Man Mountain or White Dude Mountain. I look at

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the Netflix offerings and I think it's pretty broad. And again,

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you don't have to watch these things. Is Netflix putting

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in front of you? Probably possibly, I don't know. If

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I go to your house, I don't think they surface

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the same things that you see if you log in

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as me. I know, sometimes I log in as a

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different family member and they have like a whole different

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list of shows. I didn't even know exist. Who knows

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Dean Cook played the Zombie Montreal Comedy Festival last night.

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I didn't realize that show he did last night was free,

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just like the one tonight for Eliza's Lessenger. She's there tonight.

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You can see it for free at the Place Day Festivals,

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which is how I was pronounced in French. Dane Cook

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told the Montreal Gazeze there's no better feeling in the

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world than sharing a career, especially one in the third decade.

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You could be outrageous. He probably got dragged a few

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times because it was sensational and it was fun for

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the media to do that. You start flying steady, but

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lo and behold, I fall in love And not only

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is it a love story, but it's one where I

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truly want to share the rest of my life and

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the rest of my journey with this woman. And I

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hope that feeling is mutual. Dane no longer feels like

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he has something to prove. He says, I think at

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some point I turned a corner from all that stuff.

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I found myself to be a friend, to be in

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kind of a mentor position, be it at a club

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or speaking on the seminar circuit about my philosophy, and

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certainly the things that helped me keep my integrity during

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every which way. Now I get to be a sounding

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board for someone who was maybe where I was when

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I was in my twenties. There are a lot of

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people who try to take you someplace you don't want

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to go. Feels great to give sports others. That's what

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keeps me going these days. Also, I have a fire

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still raching creatively inside of me. I'm tenacious when I

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wake up in the morning, I have an agenda I

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want to see through. But the big difference is that

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now I want to share all of that with my wife.

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It's nice to be in this place. I think it's

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time for the Danisades. Let's get a major Dean Cook comeback.

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That'd be great. Chad Daniels just had his Netflix special

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Empty Nester. He now stars in a new peda video

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with a fellow comedian, Kelsey Cook, who is also his partner.

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They imagine a world in which humans are treated like

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outdoor cats and remind viewers of the video that life threatening,

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dangerous two outdoor cats are no laughing matter. In the video,

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Chad Daniels is shoot outside by cook. I love to

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fend for himself in the not so great outdoors. In character,

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he says, do you have any idea how many diseases

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I can get out here? Hookworms, ringworm, reebe's ticks, toxoplasmosis,

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and some other words I can't pronounce. I'm gonna catch

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something I can't even pronounce. Oh, that's funny. I didn't

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read that. Next sent it's ahead. There were two words

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here like pasteur relosis. I might have got that in Campbell.

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How do you pronounce camp Why? All right? La la

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la l? Is that even a word? That's like an

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lol lol? Anyway, Daniel says in the videos ear mites

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feline herpes virus. If I get herpes, because if you,

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I'm gonna be angry. This is what he says. Peta

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points out that, in addition to terrorizing, maiming, and killing

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billions of birds and other small animals, every year, cats

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allowed to roam out doors or at risk of ingesting poison,

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contracting fatal diseases and enduring violence and abuse at the

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hands of cruel people, being attacked by predators, being hit

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by cars, or falling victim to many other dangers. Chad

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Daniels in the video and character says, if I live

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inside my left expectancy is twelve to twenty years. But

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you leave me out here, I'm not gonna make it

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to my fifth birthday. Daniels and Cook join a long

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list of comedians including Mark Marinkathy Griffin, Nikki Glazer, Sarah Silverman,

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and Ricky Gervais, Amanda Seals, and Bill Maher who have

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teamed up with Peta to promote kindness to animals. Tig

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Nataro talked about her twenty thirteen album. Tignataro told Vulture

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of that album, it was a gut punch to get

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when I was in the depth of my grief losing

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my mother death was very unexpected to lose your mother

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and then two days later get a survey asking how

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your stay in the hospital went. I was so mad.

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I was deeply, deeply upset. I really can't listen to

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live the name of that album now because people think

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it was such a hard period of time for me,

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But it's more so that it was like a twenty

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or thirty minute open mic. When I was doing interviews,

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they would do lead ins with my material and I'd

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take my headphones off and the interviewers would be like, oh,

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I'm sorry, it must be hard, and I'm like, no,

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it's that it's not polished at all. I'm glad people

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enjoy it, but I don't want to hear this. I

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remember that night. I was shocked that I was getting

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laughs because I was so truly down and out. I

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didn't have a lot of faith in my ability to

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make any of that funny, or faith in anything truly.

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My pants were falling off, my underwear was falling off.

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I was malnourished. I was so sick. I was struggling.

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I was devastated. John, you just did stories about, you know,

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taking a sad place and a cat being killed in

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the street, back to back. This show's not much fun today.

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Can you pull it out before the break? I will

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see what Sam Morrill has for us. Deadline asked Sam

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about his podcast he does with Mark Norman, called We

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Might be Drunk. The question what has pop casting done

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for your career? Sam said, it's helped my reaching my audience,

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but it's hurt my stand up. I'd really love to

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never podcast again if I could. I do feel pressure

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to do them because everyone's doing them, and I've had

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people tell me I'm crazy to feel this way, but

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I do feel people will forget me and move on.

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And maybe that's the case, maybe not. But I didn't

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get in a comedy beat a radio type guy. That's funny.

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I didn't get in a radio to be a comedy

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type guy. We're like opposite Sam. I want to write

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screenplay as an act, not be an actor, but acted

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my stuff, and I want to make movies and TV shows.

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Stand up is number one, but those are two and three,

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and I'm gonna do it one way or another. It's

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going to happen. It might take another couple of years.

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I have stuff in the work. So I wrote a

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movie with Mark We're Shopping that I think it's really funny.

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It's kind of a throwback nineties buddy comedy. Two good Friends,

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It Can't Catch a Break, Two liquor Salesmen. There was

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a sitcom I was developing, and I'm working on the

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pilot for that now. I've had this one in the

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Q all week. Larry the Cable Guy a friend of mine.

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I will truly call him a friend, not just somebody

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I know, and a really cool person. He's got a

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Larry TheCable Guy dot shop Official merchant. I haven't looked

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at this yet. I'm like, let me click on it.

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See what he's gone. All right, we can get a

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beer label T shirt that says Larry the Cable Guy,

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a nice black T shirt thirty bucks, a bowl skull

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T shirt, also thirty bucks, a Western crest T shirt

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that says get her Done in kind of a western

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font that looks good, one that says Larry in almost

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like a baseball script that looks good. Some Camo based

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baseball caps that say get her done. And that's really it.

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Not much to make fun of there, Larry, you're not

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helping the show. It's Sunday weekend filler bro r. Kathleen Madigan,

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who I'm also friends with, also has a store. Let's

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click on merch on Kathleen Maadigan dot com. See if

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there's stuff we can make fun of your Let's see,

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she's got a Madigan's pobcast hat for thirty five bucks.

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A baseball tea. I always enjoy a nice baseball tea

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mystery grab bag for six dollars, and then she's selling

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her albums. Let's see what's in the grab bag. Pick

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your size and get a surprise shirt from the vault

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of previous Kathleen Madigan shirts. Six bucks. Boy, there's nothing

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to make fun of. This segment sucks. Why did you

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leave it in? Why not? All right, let's go to

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Jim Gaffigan dot com. Does he have merch? He's got

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a store. Come on, Jim, hook me up here. Gaffigin

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parenting quote glasses. So I've made fun of this before.

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You want a shock glass with a parenting quote from

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Jumn Gaffigan? You know you do. I mean, what's cooler

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that a shotglass that says raising kids may be a

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thankless job with ridiculous hours, but at least the pay sucks.

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I mean, how sweet is that? Thank you Jim Gaffigan

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for a halfway saving the bit from Late Night er.

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Jay Leno revealed when he replaced Johnny Carson, he initially

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planned to call the program The Tonight Show Starring Jay Leno,

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but jay Leno's mom was like, don't do that. To

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be fair to Jay Leno. The previous incarnations of the

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show were Tonight's starring Steve Allen, Tonight's starring Jack Parr,

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and The Tonight's Show starring Johnny Carson. Jay quoted his

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mother saying, oh, starring Jay Leno, listen to you, mister

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big shot. You're getting too big for your breeches. Two

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weeks later, I changed it to The Tonight Show with

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Jay Leno. That's why I changed, because of my mother.

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Bill Carter, in his book The Late Shift, says Jay

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had steered clear of starring Jay Leno out of concern

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that he would look too presumptuous claiming a star title.

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On his first day on the job. Conan O'Brien went

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with The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien Jimmy Fallon. It

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calls his The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. Sean Davies

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wrote a lengthy article for short All with suggestions on

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how to fix the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Every year, this

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time we hear how the Fringe is broken. Here are

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some suggestions. Number One, say no to the extra show,

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Sean says, every year at Fringe a handful of shows

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excel and sell out. They're ron what follows is a

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scramble to add extra shows and more people can see

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the show. I completely understand the show's popular. It's a

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chance that makes more money. Most comedians would be thrilled

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for the show to be so popular. But what they

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don't realize is they're actively taking audiences from other shows.

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Their desire to make a bit more cash is taking

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money directly out of the hands of their colleagues and friends.

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I mean, good luck with that plan. You're gonna tell

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a comedian, don't make more money so other people will

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come see a different show. Maybe possibly, perhaps the top

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level famous comedians might be that cool. But somebody gets

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a hit show, they're gonna sell as many tickets as possible.

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Suggestion number two, name your sponsor, Sean says, Recognize your

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privilege and tell people about it. How can you afford

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to be here doing what you do? Did you win

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the lottery? Do you have generational wealth? Just be honest

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about your position, Okay, and fine, no problem there. Tip

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number three offset your profits with equity, Sean writes, I

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recently had an email from an established act who apologized

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for being middle class. They said they were making some

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jokes about privilege in the new show and had a

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realization that it wasn't enough to joke about they'd been

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well paid for a recent job, and asked if they

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can make a donation. Obviously a bit their handoff, any

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money coming in goes directly towards supporting working class comedians.

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I'm not asking everyone who makes a profit to donate

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to Best in Class, but you can if you want.

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I know some acts who directly support working class acts

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by paying for their PR revenue. But I'd like to

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see production companies, PR companies and venues setting special tariffs

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for working class acts. It's not that's like, Hey, Joe Rogan,

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I know you're making a lot of money. You know,

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would be kind of cool if you could throw some

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money over to support daily comedy news. Come on, Joe,

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we're both talking about comedy on our podcast. We're the same,

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you're just more famous. Come on, hook me out. It

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doesn't work that way. Stop. And I'm seeing some buzz

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on Matt Lyons for poking fun at outdoor stereotypes. His

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videos are doing well in the algorithms. Lions roast outdoor

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enthusiasts like hikers, skiers, and people who can afford to

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live in Aspen. He has half a million fans on Instagram,

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another two hundred and fifty thousand on TikTok. Lions says,

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my videos are about things that I'm guilty of myself.

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I totally have a tattoo of a mountain on my forearm.

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It's so cliche. I threw hike. I also poke fun

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at what I've observed over the years. I understand sometimes

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they don't realize how niche our communities can feel, and

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how inaccessible we can make them seem to outsiders the

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way we talk. I want my jokes to make people

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feel a little more self aware, rather than making them

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think they're wrong for the way they act. Which outdoor

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community gives you the most feedback? Lyons says, the past

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winter was crazy with Colorado skiers chiming in. I did

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an East Coast versus West Coast video and another one

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about people who live in Aspen. I noticed that ski

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culture really last Stutther was videos and people started going

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at each other in the comments section. For every one

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order comics that are like, oh man, this is totally me.

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There is one person who seems like they've had hurt feelings. Look,

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you say enough words into the mic. Somebody's gonna not

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like what you said. So Lion says, there's one person

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who seems like they've had hurt feelings. Oftentimes I'll click

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on that person's profile and they end up being the

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exact image of the person. I'm not trying to be

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mean about the way I portray these groups. Again, I'm

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the exact person I'm making fun of in my videos.

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I always try to be family friendly. I don't curse

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or make crash jokes that you couldn't watch with kids.

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I want people to be able to send it to

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their family members without it being weird. My whole vibe

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is to stay lighthearted with my critique. Amen, brother, And

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that's true comedy news for today. If you enjoy the program,

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or if you still enjoy the program, tell a friend

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about it. If you think I'm a jerky face, tell

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other people I'm a jerkey face, they say all publicities.

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Good by Melissay. So Johnny Mac is a jerkeyface dot com.

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Hopefully it goes viral. See you tomorrow.