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Caaloroga Shark Media a big thank you to j Leno. Hi,
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I'm a Johnny Mack with your daily company news, John.
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Why are you thinking, jay Leno? Because right now in
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my world it's Thursday, and I wanted to go to
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the beach on Friday and pre tape Monday, and I
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was like, eh, I don't have enough stories for Monday.
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And then I saw Jay Leno spoke to Deadline the
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headline death of Late Night. Jay Leno on what went
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wrong at eleven thirty, why Joe Rogan is the new
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Johnny Carson and how John Oliver doesn't know what he's
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talking about. How about that? Thank you, jay Leto. I
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have not read this article at all, so I'm just
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going to dive in cold and see what Jay Leno,
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who some people say is the worst person who ever lived,
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has to say. The seventy six year old comic said,
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I mean, podcasts really are the new talk show. Joe
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Rogan is the new Johnny Carson. Let's do this piece
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by piece, Deadline. With all that's going on in late
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night now, your exit in twenty fourteen looks like a
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prophetic move. Jaylen'll laugh says that's pretty funny. You know,
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I made my living as a stand up comic. TV's
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a job that you last thirteen weeks, will least. Okay,
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I was lucky. Mine lasted twenty two years. But the
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day the Tonight Show went in, I was back on
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the road the next night in Florida for five nights.
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And that's what I do now. So for me, nothing's
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really changed. People always think as retirement, Well, I'm not retired.
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I do total dates a year, and I do think
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I do a good show. I got a few other
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things going on, like the Groad show that I enjoy.
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I have a good life. After Late Night, Leno told
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the story of being dropped by his agent. It's funny
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because I was so fortunate that my agent dropped me
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right before I got the Tonight Show in nineteen ninety two.
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I later worked it out. I saved thirty million dollars
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in commissions. I said, all right, fun with me, you know,
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I mean, I'm one of those people when anybody wants
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to break with me, I don't plead. I go, fine, okay,
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you're cool. And that was the same thing, you know,
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with the agent. I remember the same thing happened when
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I was in the Tonight show and they're going to
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replace me with Conan. And they called me and I said,
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you know, I did number one for like seventeen years.
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One of the executives says, we want what's above number one?
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And I go, O, hey, what's above number one? I mean,
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I just started to laugh, and then I realized how
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stupid the statement was. I said, you want me out,
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I'm out. Fine, Then I was out. Deadline said it
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wasn't pretty. I remember you think Deadline Jay Leno said yeah.
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But then what happened was Craig Ferguson came along and
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he started beating Conan. Then I got a call from
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Jeff Zucker saying, I think I made a mistake. WHOA
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is that new information? I don't recall, like off to
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check with the cool late night kids, I don't remember
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hearing that before that. Jeff Zucker said, I think I
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made a mistake because if I'm reading this right, he's
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talking about Craig beating Conan. So that's a twelve thirty war.
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So did Jeff say that at twelve thirty? Anyway? I
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got a call from Jeff Sucker saying, I think I
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made a mistake. Jay Leno said, yeah, I told you.
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Zucker said, we'd like to have you back. Okay, fine,
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I'll come back where if you want. You know, I
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don't have a manager. I don't have a full time agent.
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I negotiate everything myself, all right, So that puts the
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timeline back to eleven thirty being mistake. Deadline goes Jay, Dude,
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well I bother at this point. Who needs the stress?
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Jay said, yeah, I know, it's really stupid. Then again,
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I have a house in Beverly Hills, so it's working out.
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That's pretty funny. The nice thing about doing your own
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negotiations you find out exactly if people feel. The client
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might say Leno sucks. I can't stand that guy. If
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you have an agent doing your negotiations, what you hear is,
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oh he likes you. He just doesn't have anything for
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you right now. Yeah, sure, okay, Deadline says with Stephen
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Colbert gone, Jimmy Kimmel thriving but under threat, and everyone
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looking over their corporate shoulder for attacks from Donald Trump.
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Their own bosses are Greg Guttfeld. Why do you think
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Late Night lost its swagger? Leno said, it's boring. But
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here's the thing I think her at late night the most,
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too many commercials. They passed some new rules before my
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tenure at the Tonight Show that after eleven thirty at
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night you could add like another five or six minutes
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to the hour. It came in waves. But by the
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end of my time at the Tonight Show, instead of
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doing like forty eight minutes a show was only like
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forty two when broken up. More So, when I turn
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on late night now, regardless of how I'm watching, if
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I say Jake from State Form again, I'm gonna shoot
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myself in the effing head. Jay Jay, Language Jay. It's
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like geez. The host comes out, does the monologue, then
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right away over to six minutes of commercials. She'd come back,
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the host talks about his coming up, and we'll be
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right back and so on. It's all cut up enough already.
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Why watch that when I could switch over to streaming
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or YouTube and I can watch an hour with Arison
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Ford talking off the top of his head, as suppose
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having just a few minutes with the guest or with
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the host. You know, Johnny used to have real conversations.
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I tried to have real conversations. That seems to be gone,
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and the audience knows it. It's not that people are
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better or worse. It's the fact that the whole medium
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has changed. The idea that you have to turn the
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TV on at eleven thirty PM to hear what's being said,
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like appointment television. That sounds ridiculous now, So I don't
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want to make it sound like a Leno went on
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a rant there deadline, said Devil's Advocate. Why Leno then continued,
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because you can watch TV whenever you want. Now you
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can watch whatever show, whatever you want, you know, so
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that's really rudined it. There's no immediacy. People used to say, Oh,
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let's see what David Letterman whoever had to say about
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the president's thing today. It's interesting, he said, Let's see
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what David Letterman had to say. That's really what a
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really really interesting name to drop there, right, because most
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people sharing that notion would say, oh, let's see what
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Carson has to say about the president. But Jay Leno
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specifically named checking David Letterman. Huh oh, let's see what
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David Letterman whoever had to say about the president's thing today.
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And you and the whole world simultaneously at eleven thirty
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knew what they thought, now you can look it up anytime.
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You know, my brain froze there. I'm not going to
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make the end of my brain froze there because he
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said David Letterman. Then he said eleven thirty. Arguably Jay
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Leto could be talking about somebody watching Late Night with
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David Letterman at eleven thirty Central. But I think most
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of us associate pre Leno David Letterman with twelve thirty.
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Very very interesting. Now you look it up anytime whenever
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you watch it. If you miss it, that's okay, you know.
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So what's really changed? Skipping ahead, I mean, podcasts really
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are the new talk shows. Joe Rogan is the new
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Johnny Carson. Yeah, Joe talks to everybody about everything. There's
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no scac to step in and say what you can
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and can't say, so you really do get an unfiltered
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idea of what everybody thinks. So yeah, I mean to me,
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that's what's also changed Late Night. I talk to young people.
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They don't know CBS, NBCABC, Channel four. They just go
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to YouTube, which is amazing. If you had predicted YouTube
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would be the most popular channel in the world ten
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years ago, I think people would have said, what are
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you talking about, but it is now I teach college students.
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He's correct, they don't think of TV brands the same
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way as oldies ten years ago. I don't think the
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YouTube notion was crazy. Maybe we'll change the time on there.
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But I get what Jay saying. Right, I've done about
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eight minutes on Jay Leno. There's more there. Let's save
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a little more for tomorrow, right right right. You can
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read this on Deadline if you can't wait for tomorrow.
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Bill Carter on the Late Night Er website had the
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headline Outside Tonight rebuilds Late Night for the YouTube crowd.
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This was a fluff piece of sorts about the new
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YouTube show Outside Tonight, hosted by Julian Shapiro bornham Well.
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Bill Carter, I got news for you, buddy. When I
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looked Thursday at noon, Outside Tonight had six thousand views.
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I can get six thousand views, and that's without YouTube
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promoting me. Six thousand. Yikes, that's even less than who's
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the other guy? I forgot that guy's name, Josh Gleb?
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Is that his name? Ben Gleeb, Ben Glebe. Ben Glebe
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had like twenty thousand views. Let's say how Ben Gleib
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is doing Okay, Good Night with Ben Gleb. The channel
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has two point nine to one million subscribers. That's not
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too shabby, and something has changed, friends. I wow, I'm
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stunned by this number. I'm about to tell you so
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Episode three has at two twenty three pm on Thursday,
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five hundred and forty one thousand views. So this thing
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has caught on a little bit. That's a real number.
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It's a much bigger number than six thousand, so the
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algorithm must have been kinder, right. We'll have to keep
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an eye on that one. Josh Johnson had a big
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piece with Variety. They talked about how Josh puts out
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just about an hour every week every Tuesday on YouTube.
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He's racked up half a billion views. Josh told Variety,
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I don't even think what I'm doing would be advisable necessarily.
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I see why people say you're leaving a lot on
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the table or giving it away for free. But this
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is what I want to be doing, and it's pushed
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me to get better. He talked about the New York Knicks.
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There was one game when Jose Alvarado crashed into Mike Bloomberg.
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Josh said, we almost got rid of a billionaire out
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of nowhere. Everybody's always planning, hiring security. Wh would have
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thought they would have gotten themselves killed. Variety got a
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little poetic here writing. Johnson's comedic style is highly expressive,
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and his voice, nasal with a southern inflection, leaps across
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octaves and volume levels. He's a physical performer, one who
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could tell the same story four or five ways, peppering
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in new insights each time. His material ranges from political
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to trivial. A bit about the absurdity of the Iran
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war might be followed by one about revolving doors. Johnson,
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it seems, is highly approachable. Maybe it's because he's in
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our living rooms talking directly to us as a daily
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show host. Or maybe it's because when he greets you,
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his mouth curls into a boyish smile and his voice
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slides into a higher register, like Mickey Mouse if he
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grew up on the Bayou. That's a description. Variety flexes
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a bit and says, it's quarter eleven now, and we've
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uber to a over price susy joint, and so for
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late dinner. Fancy. I asked him where that fifteen minutes
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of material he just did in the club, will go?
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Josh says, I don't really know. Maybe I'll hold on
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to it and do it again somewhere. Maybe I won't.
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Fridy says most comics wouldn't dream of bringing fifteen minutes
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of all new material to a club and leaving it there.
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But Johnson is a stranger to the scarcity mindset. He says,
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I write one hundred and twenty five jokes a day,
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and that's all to hopefully get three on air. You'll
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learn to be precious and you learn that you have
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more in the tank than you think. He's asked if
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he'll wake up one day with nothing to say, Josh says,
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that would be like if you woke up and went
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to work and were worried you were going to run
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out of words. Out today on the eight hundred pound Gorilla,
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it's Willie Max's good Dad, bad Father. Bert Kreischer was
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promoted by Flamingo Magazine, your home for comedy news and Flamingos.
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I guess, Bert said, I mean you want to talk
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about luck. My special Hey Big Boy, was released March seventeenth,
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twenty twenty two days into the pandemic. He says, everywhere
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in America, people were being forced to stay inside, so
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they had to find something to watch. I also believe
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you manifest your luck by recognizing acknowledging your luck. Even
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at times when you find yourself unlucky, you need to
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try and find the luck in it. Bill Lawrence, the
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guy behind Scrubs and a bunch of other shows, Ted Lasso, Rooster,
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Shrinking Bad Monkey. He had a Variety profile I personally
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imaged in the Scrubs part. He was asked why he
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doesn't shoot Scrubs in LA because he tries to do
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most of his production in LA. Variety asked what's the
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obstacle Scrubs and said, straight money, We're gonna try and
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get it back here for the third season. Ooh wait,
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does that mean we're getting a third season of Scrubs?
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Awesome new Scrubs. You know what I meant. It's one
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of those equations that the money you're given to make
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the show, and this is conjecture, equals like three and
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a half million in LA and five point six million
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in Vancouver. And that's a show that's already very inexpensive.
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It's a network TV show, and I couldn't afford to
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make it here in La Roddy said, you're not day
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to day on Scrubs. How much to worry about legacy?
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Bill said, we always argue about this in the writer's room,
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and I'm the legacy smegacy guy. The ninth year of
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Scrubs was supposed to be a spinoff called mid School,
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and people argue, oh, you're ruined the legacy. No, I