May 14, 2026
Jeff Ross on Kevin Hart Roast Tension, Kimmel's Upfronts Jokes, and Corden’s World Cup Show
Johnny Mac recaps Variety’s interview with Jeff Ross about the Kevin Hart roast, including Ross’s view that well-crafted jokes don’t hurt, a surreal moment when he missed Hart’s jab while stuck in a locked-bathroom scramble, and the only real tension arising when Katt Williams surprised Hart before Hart quickly turned it celebratory. Ross says nothing was off-limits, credits producer Casey Patterson for secrecy that preserves surprise, and notes live edits and the teleprompter operators’ difficulty. Vulture argues Sheryl Underwood “won” by resetting the room’s energy. Mac dismisses a Radar Online claim that ABC is reconsidering Jimmy Kimmel, then runs through Kimmel’s and Seth Meyers’ upfronts material and late-night industry jokes. He notes James Corden’s Fox World Cup aftershow, Jason Zinoman’s praise of John Mulaney and rising comics, and Heather Shaw’s YouTube special release.
00:19 Jeff Ross Roast Chaos
02:30 Crossing Lines and Sequencing
03:55 Roast Production Secrets
04:55 Who Should Get Roasted Next
05:17 Sheryl Underwood Steals Show
06:10 Kimmel Gossip and Upfronts
09:34 Seth Meyers NBC Jabs
11:10 James Corden World Cup Show
12:45 NYT on Mulaney and Newcomers
14:37 Heather Shaw Special and Wrap
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Callarogas shock media. David Letterman is on Colbert Tonight. I
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am Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news, a daily
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briefing on stand up comedy, comedians and the comedy industry.
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A senter the algorithm loves. We'll talk about late night.
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In a bit uh from Variety, Jeff Ross talked about
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the real tension behind the roast of Kevin Hart. The
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rose continues to be the big topic and that'll get
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us through this week and the next week is Colbert Week.
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Lot going on in comedy. Jeff Ross was asked if
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anything hurts his feelings, like when somebody says you look
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like the inside of a clam. The Roastmaster General said,
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if the joke is funny and well crafted, it doesn't
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hurt my feelings. It makes me proud. If the joke flops,
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then I'm insulted. Like write a better joke for me.
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I'm the roast master. If you watch the entire roast.
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At one point, Kevin was making fun of Jeff, but
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Jeff was in the bathroom. Jeff said, I was panicking
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because the bathroom next to my dressing room was locked.
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I thought I had a time where I could make
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it back for that part of his speech. Imagine literally
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peeing while I'm hearing the audience laughing jokes about me.
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It was one of the most surreal roast moments of
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my career. I really did him dirty, and I did
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apologize after the party. I should have been in my seat,
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But by the time he and the rock plug the
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tequila brands for the second time, I whispered to Pete
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Davidson and said, all right, I gotta go pee. Ross
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talked about the after party. I think everybody was there.
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The vibe was over the moon. Kevin seemed like he
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was on cloud nine. Was there any real tension behind
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the roast? That's the million dollar question, Jeff said. The
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only real tension I felt was when Cat Williams appeared
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out of nowhere and started going in on Kevin. Kevin
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definitely looked a little tense, like these guys may not
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have seen each other for a long time. But Kevin
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asked for the hatchet to be buried, and immediately the
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tension turned into celebration. Whose idea was it to bring Cat?
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Jeff Ross says, Kevin's a great comic, but he's also
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a really smart producer. He loves to follow the discomfort.
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If something's making him uncomfortable, it's going to be great TV.
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I would say it was a group brainstorm of who
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would be a funny person to bring into this thing,
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and Kat Williams was game. He came out with a
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cape like a villain, and he left like a friend.
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I don't believe they actually talked until he came out
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on TV. Jeff shared a joke of his that did
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make it into the roast. He would have told it better,
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but it goes like this, Kevin, your dad sold crack,
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and you literally sell everything except crack. From his comedy
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to s tequila to his chain of vegan fast food restaurants,
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Kevin is always looking for new ways to make people
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throw up. Ha ha. Friddy says, at least inside the room,
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Cheryl Underwood crushed. Jeff said, I remember at some point
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flopping on the floor when she was on. That's how
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hard I was, falling out of my chair. She had
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one of the best sets of the night. She's a pro.
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She used to walk on stage with her person in
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her hand. We worked such dumps together. She didn't trust
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the staff or the other comics with her purse in
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the back, She's the real deal. Good question here by variety.
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Where is this roast rank in terms of crossing the line?
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Jeff Ross said there were definitely some lines crossed. The
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jokes were super edgy. When Tom Brady came out and
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started talking about Kevin's personal life, right out of the gate,
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I thought, this truly is a revenge roast. That's how
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I actually approached Tom about it. We were at a
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party in Las Vegas and I said, Tom, I got
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another one percolating. He said, I'm never coming back. Why
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would I come? And I said revenge? He goes? Who
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you got? I whispered Kevin Hart and his next question
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was when he needed a reason to come back. Those
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jokes were super reggie, and I could feel the tension
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in the room. Even though it was funny, there was
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a realness to it. I will weigh in here. I
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think having Tom Brady in the laid off spot was
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a mistake. I wrote about this on my substack, and
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I think I talked about earlier in the week. I
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think the move might have been open. With the shaker
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of Kat Williams and having confidence in Cat to be funny.
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I think that would have prepped the room a little bit.
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Tom just not being a comedian, I don't think warmed
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up the room well enough, which affected a lot of
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the first half of the show. When I finally watched
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the whole thing, I think the second half was a
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little stronger, mainly because of Tony Hingecliff and Kat Williams.
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So I'm not sure they sequenced this thing right. Roddy
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was curious what was actually off limits. Jeff Ross said,
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people always asked that. Kevin never once said to me,
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please don't do this, Please don't do that for me.
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There's a sportsmanship to it. I want to scratch the skin,
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but I don't want to break it. Nothing was off limits.
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I don't think there was a single topic from Kevin's
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life that didn't get brought up. It's really just a
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question of how avert you want to be. Do you
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want to be subtle or do you want to smash
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them over the head with a dollhouse. I don't know
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anybody could look at the roast and call it water down.
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Roddy did a good job with this. They asked, you know,
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the show's very tightly produced. There are writers in rehearsals.
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How do you balance that with the element of surprise.
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Jeff said, I gave a lot of the credits to
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my partner, Casey Patterson. Joe put fake names on dressing
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room signs. The scripts don't circulate to the entire staff.
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The crew doesn't read the comics material. I don't know
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what Chelsea's speech is going to be. She doesn't know mine.
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Kevin doesn't know what's coming from anybody that keeps it real,
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you are genuinely messing with somebody live on television. There's
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a lot that goes into that side of it, and
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I'm only surprised. Another good follow up, There were a
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lot of times when people would skip a joke they
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had on the teleprompter. What goes into the decision to
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edit yourself in real time? Jeff Ross said, I'm careful
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not to let that happen because I hate going skip it.
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It looks so written. But sometimes in a live show,
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it's inevitable that people want improvise, or maybe the joke
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was too similar to the joke that was made earlier
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in the night and doesn't seem funny anymore. Is sometimes
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the non comics get cold feet on a certain joke. Honestly,
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the most important job in that entire show is probably
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the teleprompter operators. That's a high wire act. You get
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all sorts of deliveries. Some people are mumbling somemmer rushing,
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and those operators stay right with us the whole time.
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It's remarkable. Two more. Will you be able to get
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another goat in a couple of years, Jeff said, I
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think so, Kevin do. It opens it up to almost
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anybody whos at the top of their game wants to
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show the world they're a good sport. All right, Who
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do you want to roast next? Jeff's aid a pop
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star or a rock star would be great. A rapper
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would be great. I could see Drake getting roasted in
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being a great one. One of my all time favorite
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ideas is Stevie Wonder. I always say the roast of
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Stevie Wonder. You got to hear it to believe it.
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Vulture had the headline how Cheryl Underwood won the roast
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of Kevin Hart. Despite being one of the least recognizable
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faces on a dais that included celebrities like Chelsea Hanler
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and Pete Davidson, Underwood had consistently been the target of
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some of the Knight's sharpest barbes, adding to the weight
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of the moment. Underwood followed Tony Hinchcliff, but when Underwood
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got on the podium, the room's atmosphere reset. Her set
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was a triumph, in part because her energetic delivery injected
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life in the proceedings after the show had slipped into
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a monotonous rhythm halfway through its bloated, nearly three hour runtime.
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There were only so many times one could see Handler
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called a horror or heart marked for his height before
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it grows tedious. And an event that featured surprise appearances
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from Venus and Serena Williams, Heart Enemy Cat Williams and
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The Rock, no one got ovation like Underwood following her set. Boy,
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I just looked at the we are going to be
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long again. I got like seven stories of been kicking
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since Monday. Remind me I said that when it's July
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fourth week and I'm googling George Lopez Tacos to fill
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some space all right. Radar Online is a gossip website.
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Their headline Jimmy Kimmel pushing himself out the door at ABC.
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How cost A Comics shot himself at the foot with
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dead Trump gags. I don't believe the story at all,
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no offense. Radar Online. One of the reasons I say
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that is because ABC had Jimmy Kimmel host the Upfronts.
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But anyway, Radar Online says ABC executives are allegedly reconsidering
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Jimmy Kimmel's future after backlash over his Millennia Trump joke.
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They remind us the Kimmel repeated the joke on a
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show and said critics overreacted, and network insider said the
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original joke was already viewed internally as reckless, doubling down
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turned it into something potentially costly to the network. They
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can't be too concerned because they had Jimmy host the Upfronts.
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Jimmy Kimmel's all the Upfronts audience. I didn't think i'd
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see you guys again either. Yeah, the bad boy of
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Data and Measurement Solutions is back. I've been through so
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much BS this year it actually made me appreciate this BS.
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You know, usually in order for ABC to pull you
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off the air, you have to throw a cher at
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your Mormon boyfriend. Yes, the President tried to get me
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canceled over the last six months. That's one way to
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look at it. Another way is you could say I've
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generated unparalleled engagement across a variety of platforms. Luckily, thanks
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to our partners in Washington, we're up twenty five percent
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among viewers. It's a big deal to have your numbers
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go up nowadays. But that said, if Johnny Carson woke
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up one day with my ratings, he'd have gone straight
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under the sink and chugged all the DRAINO Oh, Kimmel
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had more. He said, I cost our company a lot
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of money this year, billions. It's very possible that no
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employee in the history of any company has caused their
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employee more than hiring me twenty four years ago. Just
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from a purely mathematical standpoint, it was the worst personnel
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decision that Disney Corporation has ever made. Not even the
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captain of the Exxon Valdiz did more damage. Jimmy said,
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this will be the first Super Bowl on ABC in
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twenty years, and we're gonna milk the but Jesus out
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of it. We're gonna spend the whole year promoting what's
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already the most popular thing on earth. And as if
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the country isn't divided enough, we put the game on
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Valentine's Day just to be dicks. Let me tell you
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what the Havetime Show was going to be this year.
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The whitest stuff you've ever seen. Goodbye, bad Buddy, Welcome back,
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Oh Town. Jimmy talked about his appearance on Colbert the
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other night. As you know, CBS is turning eleven thirty
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five PM into the least time slot, least likely to
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fend the president, with a rerun of Byron Allen's comics
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on Leash from two thousand and seven, featuring Paula Poundstone
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and Andy Dick. Poor Steven. It's bad enough to lose
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your job, imagine getting replaced by the owner of the
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Weather Channel. So I look. Jimmy was on fire. He said,
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you know, in the past, I've come here to mock
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the other network shows. Was all very competitive, but now
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we're like a bunch of dirty, starving little chihuahuas under
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the table waiting for a chicken leg to drop. For
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the first time of think ever, I'm rooting for CBS.
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They've got a lot of great returning shows, and they've
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got some great news shows. Ncis New York answers the
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question what if LLL coolj partnered up with another white
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guy in a different city. They're also doing the Prices
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Right at Night now. Oh we tagged this with a
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dirty pun. The price is right at Night on the
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nighttime version instead of a flat screen TV, the winner
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gets something men like in an alley behind the studio,
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Naughty Jimmy. For the first time in eighteen year, CBS
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was not number one in total viewers. NBC is number one,
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and they're saying they're number one. Are you allowed to
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brag about being number one when you had the Olympics
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in the Super Bowl? Only if you have them again
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next year and you don't. Meanwhile, poor Fox was in
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last place again and their big plan to turn that
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around as a revival of Baywatch. This is a reboot
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for those who watched the first eleven seasons of Baywatch
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and thought, but that can't be the whole story. As
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for us at ABC, except for all the domestic violence,
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we're really doing great. Dancing with the Stars is hotter
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than your grandma's underpants at a Michael Boublaz show. The
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Rookie was among the most streams shows among viewers under eighteen.
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over at NBC, Seth Meyers hosted their upfronts. Seth Meyers said,
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we have taken down CBS, referring to for the first
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time in two decades, NBC will take the broadcast crown
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for total viewers in the TV season. He tagged his
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premise with, well, the Ellisons did, but I'd like to
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think we helped. Seriously, what's going on over there? They're
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