Oct. 5, 2026

Jim Norton Defends Dave Chappelle; Bill Burr Slams Modern Media & AI; Amy Poehler’s ‘Dig’

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac recaps comedy news: Jim Norton tells Fox News that Dave Chappelle is doing what comics should—being funny and sharing real thoughts—and critics can skip him or do better. Bill Burr argues mainstream journalism has been hollowed out into divisive 24-hour talking heads and says AI is being built to replace workers, not executives. Amy Poehler promotes Peacock’s 10-episode comedy-adventure Dig (with Mike Schur), set on an archeological site in Greece where four women uncover an artifact tied to an international conspiracy; Hugh Laurie co-stars. Taylor Tomlinson discusses a tough year of illness, doctor visits, therapy, fear shaped by her mother’s cancer history, and mixed feelings about taking and leaving the 12:30 show. Jo Koy reflects on career “bonus features” and touring motivation; Josh Johnson praises Nashville; Russell Peters lists a Malibu mansion; and Toronto comedian Andrew Barr discusses influences, nudist gigs, and a treadmill endurance special supporting rehab.

00:13 Jim Norton on Chappelle
01:03 Bill Burr on Media
01:56 Burr Takes on AI
02:16 Amy Poehler New Series
04:22 Taylor Tomlinson Health
05:20 Tomlinson on Late Night
06:16 Jo Koy Career Reflections
08:20 Josh Johnson Loves Nashville
10:33 Host Plugs New Podcast
10:59 Russell Peters Malibu Listing
11:42 Goblin Horror Comedy
12:10 Andrew Barr Toronto Q&A
12:49 Rehab Jokes and Special
14:15 Wrap Up and Sign Off

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Hello, I'm Johnny Mac with your daily comedy news. Jim

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Norton spoke with Fox News. The topic, Dave Chappelle. But

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somebody needs to tell Craig Carton that he's off mic.

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Put the mic in front of you, dude.

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I love Chappelle, man. Whether I agree or disagree with

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a point is meaningless.

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I love it.

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He's just telling a story now as opposed to here's

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a punchline. Yeah, and people who don't like him, like

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people who are like trans advocates or whatever who think

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he's wrong, like he's doing exactly what a comic should do.

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He's up there, he's being funny, and he's giving his

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real thoughts.

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That's the end of it.

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That's all a comedian's obligated to do. You're giving your

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real thoughts. You don't like what Chappelle says? Go up

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and give a better thought.

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Or don't watch him. Or don't watch him. That's it.

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You have two options.

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But comics criticizing like he has some obligation to toe

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an ideological line is so crazy.

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Rolling Stone recently had that big cover story with Bill Burr.

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Here's Bill Burr talking about journalism in the 21st century.

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Journalism was all bought up, essentially. There's no journalists, I

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don't feel, really, in the mainstream, like that hard-hitting, all-the-presidents-men thing. stuff,

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they got rid of it and for the exact purpose

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of what it was doing. So now I just feel

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like they, you know, you got these talking heads on

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24 hour news networks and they're just designed to make

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us hate each other. And I feel like the way

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you've watched our country destabilize all these other countries, I

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feel like that's what they're doing. I mean, just touring

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is a comic. How much I've seen it change. Like

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it used to be like we hated the Russians, you know, now,

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now it's like, like Texas hates California. California hates Texas.

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These people hate Florida. Somebody hates New York. It's like, guys,

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same teams. We're on the same teams here. Like, how

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would this help you?

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Bill Burr also had some thoughts about AI.

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I was talking, you know, all this AI is to, like,

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replace working people. It's like, why don't you make an

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AI CEO that's empathetic, that cares about the middle class

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and the future of the planet? They're making way more.

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You take that guy's salary versus all the work. You're

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going to save way more money replacing one guy. Why

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don't you do that? Because it's not for us. It's

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for them.

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Amy Poehler is hawking her new show. It is called Dig.

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And Amy said, if I could describe Dig using three words,

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I would say funny, friendship, and dirty. But not like dirty, dirty.

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She means like actual dirt getting on you because they're

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archaeologists and they dig. Do you get it? Yeah, that.

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She has teamed up with Mike Schur for the first

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time since Parks and Rec. The 10-episode adaptation of Dig

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is from Kate Meyer's 2023 bestseller Excavations, which follows a

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team of four female archaeologists who spend their summer working

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on dig site in Greece. The series was filmed in Greece.

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Nice work if you can get it. That's a Sandler move.

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And L.A., less exciting, the women discover a rare artifact

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that could change history as they know it. The relic

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is tied to an international conspiracy, and the archaeologists end

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up on the adventure of a lifetime. You know, that

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doesn't sound terrible, and I'm a bit of a hater sometimes,

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I admit it. That sounds kind of interesting. Amy Poehler

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plays the project's lead, the brilliant loner Elise. She's joined

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by Dylan, who returns to Greece after five years to

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take care of some unfinished business. There's also some other characters,

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including the undergrad assistant to British professor Neville. Neville is

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played by Hugh Laurie. Nice cast. Amy Poehler said, I

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think a good comedy creates characters that make you care

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enough to wonder what they do on the weekend when

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you're not watching them. What's cool about Mike's work is

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there's not a reluctance to find the deep humanity in

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his characters and you can feel it. Maybe Mike Schur

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should work with Adam Sandler, because his character's not very deep,

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except when he's a dramatic actor. As you know, he's

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a great dramatic actor. Did you see Jay Kelly? Jay

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Kelly's pretty good. Amy Poehler said, it's about the kind

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of crazy stuff that happens during one of these archaeological digs.

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You know, a dig is a really funny place where

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a lot of young, energetic people show up to try

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to find things, and where some serious and professional archaeologists

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try to make their careers. And then sometimes a billionaire

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comes by and asks you to bring the dinosaurs back

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from the dead. Don't do that. Nature finds a way.

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Amy said it's part summer camp, part mysterious undercovering of relics.

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We thought it'd be a really good place to make

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jokes and create characters that you like. Or maybe dig. Dig. Peacock. Monday,

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November 23rd. It's probably a good football game that night.

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I don't know if you guys planned that out. They

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don't care. Taylor Tomlinson's out pushing her book. She said

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last year was really tough for me. Really tough. But

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I was so grateful that I had the book to

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work on because if I took that much time off

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and didn't have a special to edit and a book

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to write, I would have gone absolutely crazy. You could

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have hosted a late night show. Don't go there, John.

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Okay.

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It was also interesting to be home for that amount

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of time and realize, oh, I've been running on adrenaline

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for a really long time, and now I'm actually going

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to go see doctors, as they talk about in the book,

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but to get really sick in my early 30s and

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not know what was going on, and I was not

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aware of this at the time, but I became aware

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of it after a lot of therapy, was that my

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mom got sick when she was 32. She went to

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the doctor, and they said, it's hormones. You're fine. By

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the time they figured out it was cancer, it was

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too late, and maybe if someone had listened to her.

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So then I have that in my brain. I'm listening

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to all these doctors, and they're going, well, mono takes

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a long time, or it might be long COVID. Or

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it's an autoimmune thing. All these answers I'm getting and

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there's something in the back of your head going, no,

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this is what's going to kill me. I'm right where

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my mom was in her early 30s and here it is.

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So I was scared to keep pushing and make my

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health deteriorate further. And I was also scared to stop

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pushing and have to face all that. She talked about

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the 1230 show. When I quit, I wasn't supposed to

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say that I wanted someone else to replace me. I

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thought that was sort of confusing, but I said, OK,

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because I didn't want to do anything wrong. And now

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I feel comfortable saying it. But part of me was like,

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maybe I don't even want to talk about this in

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the book. She was asked if she regrets taking the

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1230 job. She said, I'm so happy I took the job,

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but also a different person took that job. I'm a

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completely different person after being that sick for that long

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and something I'm still kind of dealing with. When I

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see pictures, videos, whatever, me getting the job, I'm like,

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I don't even know who that is. It wasn't like

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I was sick and I took the job and went,

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I'll get better. I took the job and then my

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body crashed and I thought it would get better and

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it didn't. So it depends on the day. There are

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certain days that I think, oh, you shouldn't have even

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taken that job. And I don't think I would have

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if I were that sick if they had offered it

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to me a month later. I would have said, no,

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I can't rely on my immune system. Anytime I feel

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healthy now, I think, you could have done another season.

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You could have pushed through. So it really depends on

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the day, and it's hard not to dwell and beat

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yourself up. But you have to go. I did what

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I did, and I was in survival mode, and I

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tried my best to handle it as gracefully as possible.

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But I also know I made mistakes. The LA Times

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asked Joe Coy, hey, Joe Coy, at this point in

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your career, they didn't say it like that.

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I don't know why.

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Hey, Chokoi, at this point in your career, how's your

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decision-making about which opportunities to go for changed since the

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beginning of your career? How do you know when to

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say no or what to say no to? Joe Coy,

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who's a nice guy, except, you know, that one time

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he went after Taylor Swift. Do you remember that? He

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was hosting the Golden Globes. And he just told this horrible, horrible,

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mean joke about Taylor Swift. Here, let me play it

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for you.

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As you know, we came on after a football doubleheader.

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The big difference between the Golden Globes and the NFL,

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on the Golden.

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Globes, we have fewer camera shots of Taylor Swift. Joe

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Coy said, I think now I'm at that age where

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I've seen it all. I've seen every audience that I

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could possibly see. And when you hit something like SoFi Stadium,

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you tend to get to that point where you're like, man,

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this is my Super Bowl. It's kind of like a

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football player. You know, it all started off of playing

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catch with his friends in the backyard to dreaming about

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playing the Super Bowl. And then you play the Super Bowl.

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And that was the pinnacle. And I loved it. Now

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I'm in auto drive and it's the best part of

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the DVD, which is the bonus features. And that's what

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this is right now. I love this attitude. Jokoi is

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pretty cool, except for that one time. But we already

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played the joke. I get to just live through my

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bonus features now because everything I dreamt about when I

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was a kid happened. Now I'm just creating things for fun.

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He was asked about traveling. He said, It's kind of

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like my adrenaline, my excitement that gets me going. I

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think at the beginning of the week, I always go, oh, man,

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I got to go to Tacoma. But the minute I

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land in Tacoma, the excitement builds. It's like I'm counting

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down the minutes to get on stage. It just motivates me.

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So it's this passion. I can't explain it. I feel you.

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I recently went to Los Angeles, and I was like,

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if I go, I'm going to be tired. And I

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was driving home, true story, and the Kenny Chesney song...

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Was it Live a Little? The point of the Kenny

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Chesney song is there's only so much lightning in the bottle.

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There's only so many times you get to feel like this.

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And I felt like Kenny Chesney was speaking to me

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through the radio. And he said, go to L.A. You

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can sleep on the plane. So you're tired for two days.

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Live your life. Thank you, Kenny Chesney. So I went

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to Los Angeles and Joe Coy and I are kindred

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spirits because he says the beginning of the week I

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was go, oh, man, I got to go to Tacoma.

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Then the minute I land. It's the excitement builds. It's

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like I'm counting down the minutes to get on stage

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and it motivates me. Josh Johnson spoke to Nashville Scene

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about what he likes in Nashville. He said, I really

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like going to the Great Escape. It reminds me of

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when I was growing up and you had these catch-all

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stores that had every type of novelty for them to

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have comic books, vinyl, cassettes, books, everything else. I'm a

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huge fan of that place. I've been there. It is

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a cool place. Josh says, Nashville's great because there are

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plenty of places you go where there's a little bit of,

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I'm used to a lot of entertainment, impress me energy.

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New York can be like that sometimes. Sometimes. nashville has

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a more earnestness to it people are out there to

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see a show it's a little less impressed me and

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more giving people a more than fair shot of what

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they've got josh johnson was asked are there any nashville

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comedians people should have their radar on he said dusty

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meaning dusty slay is probably number one amber autry is

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great and i'm trying to think of some more but

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whenever you get asked a question all the names disappear

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i was seriously at the podcast conference and they asked

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me what did they ask me um What do I

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think is overrated in podcasting right now? And I totally froze.

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I couldn't think of anything. Have you read my sub stack?

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I throw fastballs every Wednesday calling out half the industry.

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But there on camera, I was like, um, or I

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don't know. Anyway, Josh Johnson said Nashville is becoming a

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bigger and bigger comedy place, mostly thanks to controversial mega

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comedian April Gatsby, by the way, I'll add. There's a

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huge amount of comedy coming out of Nashville and there's

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a nice community there. He was then asked some rapid-fire

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questions I'll answer as well. Question number one, Nashville hot chicken,

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yes or absolutely not? Me, yes, absolutely. JJ, yes. The

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stomach ends up saying absolutely not, but the heart, the soul,

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and the mouth are all in alignment that this is happening.

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And then he was asked about Broadway. Fun night out,

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a personal nightmare? For me, fun night out. Legends Corner.

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and the bands switch maybe every hour or so, and

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each band as the night goes on is better than

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the band before, and they're all good. And I sat

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there with my mom, who was probably like 75 at

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the time, and we had it at the corner of

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the bar, and she wanted to see Nashville, and she

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was enjoying the music, and finally at 11.30, I had

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had eight Guinnesses And I said to my mom, do

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you want to see Nashville? She was so happy sitting

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there watching the bands. And I couldn't drink anymore, man.

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That's a lot for me, especially. Josh Johnson, Broadway, fun

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night out, a personal nightmare? He said, fun night out.

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Don't forget to check out that new podcast I started.

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It's called Is Late Night Dead? Eventually, I will answer

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the question, Is Late Night Dead? In the meantime, I

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will wax poetically about late night shows, episode one, David Letterman,

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episode two. Also, David Letterman, Is Late Night Dead? Wherever

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you found this podcast, you'll find that podcast. Go look

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for it. I will eventually share those episodes in these

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feeds as bonus episodes. But for now, Is Late Night Dead?

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is its own show. On Gossip Corner, Russell Peters is

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selling his Malibu mansion. I saw pictures of this thing.

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Pretty nice view. He wants $ 8. 5 million. It has six

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bedrooms and is on a privately gated 1.3 acre property.

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I wonder why he's selling it. If I just had

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to guess, insurance? Probably expensive there. It's got an incredible

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ocean view, manicured lawns, and a gorgeous pool and spa,

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an outdoor patio. I saw a picture of a nice

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theater that I could hang out in, and I don't know,

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what would I watch? Star Trek? Anyway, I don't have $ 8. 5 million.

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This podcast does well, but not that well. There's also

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space to park 15 cars. What am I, Jay Leno?

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John Goblicon, the wisecracking goblin frontman of the metal band NecroGoblicon.

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He's also a comedian. and stars in No One Survives,

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a new horror comedy series which blends dark comedy, horror,

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and practical effects. In No One Survives, we follow John

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Goblicon as he attempts to navigate the everyday frustrations of

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human life. But unfortunately, when you're a goblin, even ordinary

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problems have a tendency to take a killer turn. John

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Goblicon also hosts the Right Now podcast with John Goblicon.

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And the Toronto Guardian does a series where they speak

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with local comedians, one of them, comedian Andrew Barr. Andrew

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was asked his influences. I like this answer. He said,

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I think I'm molded by the people around me that

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I perform with a lot. I don't watch much comedy

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outside of seeing it live. I can enjoy a special

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at home and occasionally, you know, I think there's no

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better way to take in the art form than being

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in the room with it. What's your favorite place to

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have performed? He said, favorite Toronto Yuck Yucks. When it's full,

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it has the best energy of any room in the country.

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Most interesting? Love this answer. The Bear Oaks nudist resort.

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You perform naked and the crowd is naked. When a

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joke doesn't work, at least you can pause and look

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at some boobs. All right, what's your favorite bit you've written?

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Why are we proud of it? He said, all my

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stuff is about going to rehab. For a long time,

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I've been pretty good at writing jokes, but for most

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of my early career, the jokes weren't terribly personal. I'm

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proud of taking the hardest part of my life and

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turning it into something people can share a laugh about

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and something that might inspire others to get sober. All right,

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tell us about Toronto. He said, a lot of Canada

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does Toronto wrong. Sorry, I always do this. I always

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say Toronto. You're supposed to swallow that second T. For

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somebody who says Saturday Night Live, you think I could

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swallow some letters. Toronto, Toronto, with like two Ns at

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the end. A lot of Canada does Toronto wrong. And

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that's why they don't like the city. They come here

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for one day, go to the aquarium, spend the whole

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day in the worst, busiest part of town, decide the

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city sucks. People who live here don't go to the aquarium,

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do the fun stuff we do. This sounds like the

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New York advice, except this next thing, not my advice

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at all. He says, check out the nude beach. Ratio-wise,

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it's a little guy-heavy. There are some boobs, but sparse.

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Even if you were to count each boob individually, there

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are a lot more guys, put it that way. And

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some of the men are even contributing to the boob pile.

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Sounds like he thinks about boobs a lot. But it's

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still a good time. Some people might think they're too

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old to go. I've been. No, you're not. A lot

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of the old guys at the new beach are just

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dragging their stuff through the sand. All right, what do

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you got to promote now? He's got a new special.

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Andrew Barr goes nowhere. It is on YouTube. He said

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it is his single greatest achievement. He ran on a

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treadmill for 12 hours on stage at a comedy club

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and then immediately recorded a comedy special after running 104 kilometers.

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That's a lot. Holy cow. The whole day was a

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metaphor for addiction, and we raised a bunch of money

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for the rehab center that it went to. And that

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is your comedy news for today. I'll see you tomorrow.