Jim Norton's sexuality, Matt Rife on crowd work, Adam Sandler's appreciation of Conan O'Brien

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Caalaroga Shark Media. Today's podcast is
a little more adult than usual. There

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won't be any swear words, but
the themes are quite adult. If for

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some reason you listen to daily comedy
news with little ones, why don't you

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hit stop and I will see you
tomorrow. For the rest of you who

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are still here, Jim Norton was
on Neil Brandan's Blocks podcast and it was

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fantastic. I mentioned a few times
recently that you know, I know Jim,

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and as I've shared in real life, he's not walking around all day

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talking about hookers in Vegas, and
I find them to be very thoughtful.

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In these clips, you're going to
hear me play. You will hear the

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thoughtful Jim Norton that I speak about. In many of these clips, Jim

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is speaking about his wife Nicki,
a transgender woman from Norway, and as

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you likely know, the topic of
transgenderism is a topic that tends to come

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up in comedy nowadays for whatever reason, and Jim and Neil here prove that

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there's a way to have an intelligent
conversation. First clip, again a warning,

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we're a little more adult than usual, and on these clips I have

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made the occasional edit for language purposes, but I'm keeping the gist of the

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content intact. Here's Jim talking about
his wife Nikki. She turns me on

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and she makes me laugh love,
I love her brain. And I remember

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we had broken up at the end
in twenty eighteen, but I remember we

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were I was like, I would
love to because I enjoyed talking to her.

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I liked how she looked at these
trans stuff in the way she discussed

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it, and I'm like, I
would love to podcast or do something with

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her. And this is going back
like almost six years now. So we

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just started doing a channel. We're
just kind of showing snippets of our lives

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with no real goal, like because
everybody has an idea of what this relationship

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should look like or what it is, and it's just pretty much like any

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other relationship. And that's kind of
the point of this whole thing, is

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it's not this magical thing when you
have this is a weird question. Would

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you have been friends with her when
she was a guy? You know,

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I didn't know she started transitioning she
was fourteen, so I can't see her

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like that. Like I've seen the
baby pictures and there's people in her family

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will still call her him like you
know, and they're like and then he

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I don't even know if they're being
disrespectful or if it's just such a habit.

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But I don't know, Like if
she de transitioned now, I would

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have a I wouldn't want to I
wouldn't want to be in that relationship,

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even though I love her very much. I just don't know how that would

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affect me. But no, I
don't know. I can't picture her,

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like I can't see it, like
when I see old photos. I can't

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connect that to the person I'm with. Earlier in his career, Jim worked

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with Opie and Anthony with if you're
not familiar with them, they were shock

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jock shock Jockers, Scorched Earth,
Shockjockers, and Jim talked about his time

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there. Neil was curious how the
guys handled Jim's sexuality, and I'll let

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Jim tell it. I mean,
our show was oh and he was a

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barbaric, hilarious show that made fun
of everything. But they never cared about

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people being gay or bisexual, like
in a legal sense, like they were

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never against gay people, but even
like culturally it wasn't even you're gay.

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It maybe you're gay, but it
was always yes, I'm not gay,

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but I'm definitely not straight. I
was never a good ally for like LGBT

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never saw me as an ally because
of the people that I'm with and the

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jokes I make and the things I've
said. Well, all right, here's

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the question whatever you're vague sexuality is, do you feel like most people who's

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either their non binary or they're trans, or they're all these new sort of

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they're not new categories, they're not
new, they're named. The naming them

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is new, categorizing them as new. But do you think that your experience

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is that off from most people within
that realm? I don't know. I

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mean to be really honest, because
I don't understand a lot of it.

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I would assume it's very contradictory and
confusing within yourself. Well, I mean

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for me, I mean, there's
no way to consider myself straight. I

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never have. Like you know,
so many guys will say they misread it

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and they'll go, you're with uh, my wist name is Nick. You're

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with her, and you think that
he says he's not gay, he's delusional,

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But I'm not. If I was
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I'm fifty five years old. I'm
not nervous to say it. And

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here's a good left line about Jim's
turn ons. Is it like ordering off

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a menu or not ordering off a
menu? What kind of food do I

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want tonight? Like Thai or Japanese
or German? Or like we're going on

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porn hub and being like old lady, I like ladies. Sure, so

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then I within ladies, I go, I don't know, maybe let's see

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what if that's anything. It's like
it's more like blindly reaching my head into

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a bucket, and whenever I pull
out, I'm likely fat. But is

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it that random? Does it feel
that random? No, Like, whatever

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it is that will turn me on, it changes. Adam Sandler was on

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Conan O'Brien's podcast. This clip caught
my ear. It's a little weird.

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Sandler is acting like he's the biggest
Conan O'Brien fan, and he isn't quite

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sure who Conan took over for on
late night? Is that an obscure code?

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In fact, the word late night
is in the clue, Adam Sandler.

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But let's listen. I'd probably told
you this before, but when you

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got the show when we found out
you were hosting the show and taking a

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you know over for lettering, right, Is that what it was? Yeah,

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it was unanimous with our reaction.
Everyone was like, oh wow,

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yeah that's great. There was nobody
going come, I didn't get that about

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everybody was Conan's name. Everybody just
went yeah, wow, that's perfect.

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What a great idea you were.
You were sharper than everybody, but you.

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You You never came across nervous,
like I remember watching your first night.

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Who was the guest? It was
Goodman? It was Goodman was the

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first guest. And then Drew barrymore
Wow. And then uh Tony randall right

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came out like we'reing like a tuxedo. And then he and I sang Adelweiss.

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We wanted to do on the first
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kind of show it's going to be. So he and I sang adel Weiss

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and they cut to the crowd and
there was a weeping Nazi and we just

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wanted to tell everybody like this,
this is what this show is going to

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be. Cool, all pulling for
you, all knew you were the best,

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and like we were like, maw, it's officially. Hopefully you had

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a chance to listen to Joe Rogan
and Kat Williams. I played a few

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clips yesterday. They started discussing automated
vehicles. Kat Williams said he has owned

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several Rolls Royces, including an electric
one. Rogan said that thing is insane,

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just the way the doors open up, the way the doors closed when

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he touched the brakes, totally silent. Kat said, except for the price

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point four undred and fifty grand,
it would have been perfect. The La

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Times, I'm glad they're still doing
comedy articles. They recently had a ton

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of layoffs, and I was worried
their comedy coverage, which is excellent,

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would get cut. It has not. They had a nice article about crowd

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work. Matt Rice said, I
think people come to the shows with a

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certain expectation. They see something online
and inspire for it to be them in

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a certain situation, which I feel
bad for because it might not happen.

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Trevor Wallace said, I do think
any content that stand up related is better

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for sales. I get a lot
of like I saw a stand up clip

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and I didn't know you do that. Now I'm here, But I actually

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thought crowd work was this magical thing
that all only a couple comics did,

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and I never thought I was wild
enough to do it. Now, crowd

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work is more than fifty percent of
Hannah Burner's online content. It's kind of

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a necessity, she said. I
would argue early on, you can post

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some good bits to get traction for
people to hear your voice, but when

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you're putting together special you don't want
your jokes already all over the internet.

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Raife said. Audiences think that because
you only post crowd work, it's all

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you can do, and it's like, no, I don't want you to

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pay to come see me in person
to see the exact same jokes you saw

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for free. Riife says crowd work's
drawback is very rarely does he receive an

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A one response from an audience member, so much that he's been known to

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say, not funny. Moving on, those clips don't make it to social

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media, Rife says, you don't
see the low lights. You don't see

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me talking to somebody who absolutely gives
me nothing. It's never the person who

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yells out. It's always the quiet
ones that are at least assuming. Once

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again, the creators of the Simpsons
may have predicted the future. Internet people

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think The Simpsons have predicted that weird
Willy Wanka experience that I told you about

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the other day, and I'm glad
I did you know, the one promoted

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as a journey filled with wondrous creations
and enchanting surprises. One clip online shows

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a bar of Wonka chocolate, a
blue pipe, candy sticks, and one

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oople Loopa behind a pop up table. Another video shows a mystery character scaring

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kids well. A clip from The
Simpsons has surfaced. It shows Homer Simpson

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charging a fifty dollars admission for Homer
Land on a shabby looking sign, as

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well as a sad looking Oopa Luopa
sitting smoking on a wooden box. While

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some of the screenshots are from different
episodes, people are convinced it mirrors the

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House of Illuminatis infamous event. On
their social media page, the organizer said,

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I'm truly sorry for any upset and
disappointment caused at the weekend. Refunds

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have been issued and will continue to
do so. This was an event gone

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wrong. The House of Illuminati will
not be holding any other events in the

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foreseeable future. Staying Animated Variety caught
up with Dan Harmon talking about season seven

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of Rick and Morty. That's the
season that just happened, Harmon said in

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the finale, where playing with the
concept that we've fallen back on many times,

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where Rick considers moretyr replaceable. So
this is kind of a final step

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into turning them into a partnership.
Certainly not an equal partnership in any way,

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but they're friends, their roommates.
They're kind of like Ernie and Bert.

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Showrunner Dan Martr says season eight will
have a lot of similar flow and

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vibes to season six and seven,
which is like a cool balance of silly

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and one up canonical stuff. That's
the stuff I want as a fan.

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That's the stuff Harmon and I work
on, all jammed together. I'm really

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proud of these last couple of seasons. They're sort of the perfect blend of

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what I look for as a fan. Notice we've stopped talking about the change

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in voices. Martyr says, for
Ian, who plays Rick, everyone who

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came in the door to do Rick
screamed and felt like they needed to focus

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on that screen. But that's just
not Rick. A lot of the time,

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Ian worked on the opposite part that
many people weren't focusing on They talked

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about some popular fan theories. Matt
Patt from the YouTube channel Film Theorists has

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proposed that the show is setting up
mister Poopy Butthole to be the newest villain.

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Harmon said, ah, we can't
do that now where he could see

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us. Right. Good job,
Internet, you blew it again. Rick

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and Mordy season eight, not twenty
twenty five, but this year we get

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Rick and Morty the anime. Quick
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