Sept. 22, 2025

Jimmy Kimmel - Trump rips, John Oliver reacts AND How much would a Strike Force Five Podcast make?

Jimmy Kimmel - Trump rips, John Oliver reacts AND How much would a Strike Force Five Podcast make?

In this bonus episode, Johnny Macc discusses President Trump's appearance on Fox Sunday briefing and his negative comments about late-night hosts Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and Stephen Colbert.

Trump criticizes their talent and ratings, mentioning that Colbert has been canceled. The episode also covers Trump's participation in Charlie Kirk's memorial service, where he condemned those who reacted positively to Kirk's assassination. J

ohn Oliver's response on his show 'Last Week Tonight' is highlighted, providing context and commentary on Kimmel's controversial comments and the broader implications for free speech amid political pressures.

The episode concludes with a financial analysis of the possibility of 'Strikeforce Five' podcast monetization.

 
00:18 Trump's Critique of Late Night Hosts
02:32 Memorial Service for Charlie Kirk
05:15 John Oliver's Commentary on Kimmel Controversy
10:19 Podcast Economics and Strikeforce Five Analysis
 

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Callarogas shock Media.

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This is the Jimmy Kimmel related bonus episode for Monday,

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September twenty second. The normal Monday episode is earlier in

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the feed. Hello, I'm Johnny Mack. President Trump was on

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Fox Sunday briefing. The President was framed on the left

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side of your television. On the right side, host Peter

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Doocey in between them a framed photograph on the wall.

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I guess in the White House of President George Washington.

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If you're not familiar with Peter Doocey, he is the

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son of longtime Fox host Steve Doocey. Peter is thirty

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eight years old and you may know him as the

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Fox Senior White House correspondent. President Trump had this to say.

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When I look at Jimmy Kimmel, he had no talent.

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He had no talent. He was a crazy I don't

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know if you remember, I did a truth before he

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gave out the Best Picture Award in the Academy Awards.

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He hosted it. He did a terrible jam. I said,

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what a terrible job he did. He's the worst host

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in Academy history. And this was during the show and

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he saw it and just before the climax of the

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Hoshel like best Picture or Best Actor, whatever it was.

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He read my truth saying about how bad he was,

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and then I dispute this. It was the craziest thing

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I've ever seen. His wife was begging him not to

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do it, his agent was begging him not to do it.

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There's something wrong with the guy. When I look at Fallon,

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he's the most insecure looking person I've ever seen on television.

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And the other one, Colbert, who just got canceled, as

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you know, just terrible. And it's a hundred to think

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of this. It's one hundred percent bad about Trump. They

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don't say anything even conservatives. Somebody said they I think

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in two years, two or three of them, or maybe

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all three of them, they never even spoke to a

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Republican or conservative. It's one of the reasons they do

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so badly, because they don't realize what's happening. But when

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you look at these shows, and when you look at

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how untalented they are, I could get people off the

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street to do a better job than Colbert. He's terrible.

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He's terrible, and it's not because he says bad things.

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I don't watch it purposely. I don't watch it, but

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I don't find it enjoyable. I don't find him good.

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I don't find any of the three. I could get

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people off the street right now, you and I could

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walk outside of the beautiful White House, walk down the street.

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I could look at some people and they would do

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better in ratings, and they would have more talent than

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any of those three good.

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It was a busy weekend for the president. He attended

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the memorial service for Charlie Kirk on Sunday. During his

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speech at the memorial service for the assassinated Charlie Kirk,

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the President of the United States had this to say.

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Over the last eleven days, we have heard stories of commentators, influencers,

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and others in our society who greeted his assassination with

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sick approval, excuses, or even jubilation.

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You've heard that, though if I couldn't believe it. You

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know the names. They're major losers by the way they'll

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be that will be proven out in a short period

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of time. Some of the very people who call you

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a hater for using the wrong pronoun were filled with

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lee at the killing of a father with two beautiful

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young children, and the same commentators who this week are

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screaming fascism over canceled late night TV show where the

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anchor had no talent and no ratings. Last week, we're

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implying that Charlie Kirk deserved what happened to him. No

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side in American politics as a monopoly undisturbed or misguided people.

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But there's one part of our political community which believes

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they have a monopoly on truth, goodness, and virtue and

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concludes they have also a monopoly on power, thought and speech.

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Well, that's not happening anymore.

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We've turned that corner very quickly.

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On the flight home from the memorial for Charlie Kirk,

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the President of the United States said this aboard Air

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Force One.

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First of all, he said a terrible thing about Charlie,

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but he also suffers.

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From the back. He's got no talent and he's got

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no ratings, a deadly combination.

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Also, I believe that this is from Air Force One

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on September eighteenth. The President is on a plane during this,

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so I'm assuming it's Air Force One. But the President

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had this to say.

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When you have a.

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Network and you have evening shows and all they do

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is it Trump that's all they do.

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If you go back, I can say I haven't had

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a conservative going in years or something somebody said.

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But when you go back and kick a look, all

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they do.

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Is a trump the license we've been allowed.

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To do that. They're an arm of the Democrat parties.

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Thanks everybody. Senator Ran Paul, a Republican from Kentucky, said

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that FCC chair Brendan Carr's comments threatening to take action

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against Disney last week were quotes absolutely inappropriate. Republican Senator

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Ran Paul said, Brendan Carr's got no business weighing in

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on this, but people have to also realize the despicable comments.

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You have the right to say them, but you don't

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have the right to employment. John Oliver on his show

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Sunday Night, went in deep about this. I went to

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pull the clips, but you know how Oliver does this thing.

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He'll make a point, then he'll tell a joke, then

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I'll play a clip. And I started to pull it,

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and it was just going to be way more efficient

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if I just tell you the words that John Oliver

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himself said. Oliver on last week Tonight. A person getting

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shot is tragic, and a person getting shot for their

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ideas is horrifying. That is true no matter what those

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ideas are, and I recognize that for many, especially those

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who are targets of some of Kirk's ideas, it's been

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hard to stay quiet as they see flags lowered to

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half staff and claims that he debated things the right way.

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But setting all of that aside, it does seem like

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some are now willing to weaponize Kirk's death to do

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things they've been wanting to do for years, whether it's

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going after liberal groups, trans people, or the remaining critics

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in the media, and under some shamelessly flimsy pretext, all

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of which brings us back to Jimmy Kimmel. Oliver then

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says the comments they got Kimmel in trouble weren't about Kirk.

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In fact, Kimmel's first comments about his murder or a

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post reading can we just for one day agree that

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it's horrible and monstrous to shoot another human on behalf

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of my family. We send love to the Kirks and

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to all the children, parents, and innocence who fall victim

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to senseless gun violence. Again, that was a social media

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post by Jimmy Kimmel. Oliver says what got Kimmel in

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trouble was a passing reference on Monday Night. Now, I've

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played that clip several times in the bonus episodes. I

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won't do it again, but in my opinion, it is

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clearly a President Trump joke and not a Charlie Kirk joke. Possibly,

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perhaps it could have been phrased even more clearly. Now,

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this next thing from Oliver is interesting. John said, Weirdly,

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I was actually a guest on a show that night,

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and I didn't even register that comment. That's only partly

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because I wasn't really paying attention, And I'm not alone

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in that. After Kimmel's suspension, many struggle to pick up

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the offensive line out of his monologue, as YouTube is

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filled with comments under the video like I'm still waiting

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for the offensive part I have I mentioned in one

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of these bonus episodes. Somewhere. As I was putting together

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the show one day last week, I saw a Newsweek

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article that said something along the lines of people upset

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about Jimmy kimmel controversial comments, and I clicked on it

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to put it into the script for the show. And

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as I read it, I was like, I thought it

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was a nothing story, Like I didn't read and be like,

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oh wow, this is going to be a thing. And

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I've got a pretty good sense for this is going

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to be a thing, So I'm with Oliver there. Oliver continued,

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The point is Kimmel didn't denigrate Charlie Kirker make light

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of his killing. The worst thing you could say is

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that appears have been wrong about the shooter's ideology, which okay,

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but he was pointing out that many on the right

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seemed desperate to weaponize Kirk's death, an argument that's aged

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pretty well given you know everything that's happened to Kimmel since.

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Oliver then went on to call out Next Star and Sinclair.

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Oliver says that when one media reporter asked chairman Carr

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for a comment, he sent back a smiley emoji and

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sent a gift of the office to CNN. Oliver said, look,

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I like the office. Who doesn't like the Office? Sure

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I could have done without season eight nine, But if

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it's not at a hotel, I'm not kicking it out

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of bed. That's it. I want you to run through

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your friend list in your head right now and pick

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out the person most likely to text you from the office.

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Do you have them in mind, very least favorite friend, right,

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just be honest. Actually that's me, Thanks a lot, John Oliver.

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I am the person who's gonna do that. They're the

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one that invite you to stuff just because you're afraid

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no one else will show up. They're a third string friend.

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They're your backup's backup. But if you're thinking there's nothing

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wrong with office gifts, I'm afraid that person might be you. Okay,

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busted more from John Oliver. Not because comedians are important,

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because we are not. If the government can force a

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network to pull a late night show off the air

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and do so in plain view, it could do a

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bleap of a lot. Worse. It was fun while it lasted, guys,

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whatever happened next, let me say now it has been

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the honor of my life to age like a haunted

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painting before your very eyes. Which should be clear to

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everyone at the first Amendment is absolutely critical in this country.

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That is something even Brendan Carr knows, given that he

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wants tweeted. Free speech is the counterweight, it's the check

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on government control. This is why censorship is the authoritarian's dream. Oliver.

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Then up, he directly addressed Disney CEO, Bob Iiger. Hither Bob,

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we haven't met yet, but you probably know me as

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America's third favorite Zazu. That is the character John Oliver

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voice in The Lion King. Congratulations on recasting that role.

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By the way, it was a fun thing to learn

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about that after the fact. Anyway, one day, the history

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of time we're living through is going to be written.

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And when it is, I'm not sure it's those in

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this administration who are even going to come off the worst. Now,

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don't get me wrong, they're going to come off terribly,

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but history is always gonna remember the cowards who definitely

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knew better but still let things happen, whether it was

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for money, convenience, or discomfort. And I know this is

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something of a tough sell. It could be a bit

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of anathema to reconverse business leaders, but I will say this,

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if we've learned nothing else from this administration's second term

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so far, I don't think we have. It's that given

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the bully or lunch money doesn't make him go away,

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It just makes him come back hungrier each time. They're

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never going to stop. At some point, you're going to

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have to draw a line. So I'd argue, why not

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try it right here? And when they come to you

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with ridiculous demands, picking fights that you know you could

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win in court, instead of rolling over, why not stand

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up and use four words they don't teach you in

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business school. Not okay, you're the boss, not whatever you

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say goes, but instead the only phrase that can genuinely

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make a week bully go away, and that is f

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you make me. I know I did a lot of

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reading there and I try not to do that, but

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just such a major story there. We do a couple

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more things here real quick. At eight forty one am

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on Monday morning Eastern time, I google the phrase Joe

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Rogan Kimmel. Nothing came up, and I've seen a lot

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of people talking about, oh, they should just bring back

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Strike Force five. So let me do some analysis here.

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This is based on my knowledge and I use chat

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GPT to help me with a math here, so a

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quick lesson from Professor Mack here. Podcasts are sold on

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what's called a CPM model. CPM means costs per thousand

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and for a live read for a host read, say

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a guy in his basement talking about football betting. You

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know that kind of thing. It is based off a

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CPM model. As a podcasting executive, when we model shows

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usually to start with a basic twenty dollars CPM. So

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what that means is, if let's say this podcast gets

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one thousand listeners, how much would I charge for an AD.

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I would charge twenty dollars. If I get, say two

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thousand listeners, I would charge you two times the twenty

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dollars CPM. So on AD would cost forty dollars. If

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I get a million listeners, well, then I'm not doing

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the show from the basement. I'm doing the show from

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the French riviera. But that is not the case, okay.

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So I asked chat GPT, who got back to me

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and said, here is the full year model for Strikeforce five,

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with agents, managers, and lawyers included. I'll use conservative industry

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typical math, where agent, manager and lawyer each take their

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percentage from the same commissionable base. Here are the assumptions.

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I'm assuming Strikeforce five would get one million downloads per episode.

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It's just a number I made up. It might get

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a thousand downloads, it might get ten million. But the

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numbers here based on a million per episode. And I've

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worked on some pretty good shows, A million per episode

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would be a pretty good number. Do bigger shows do

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more than that? Sure? For the CPM. For this, I

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didn't use twenty dollars. I used thirty dollars, saying a

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premium CPM model, saying, oh wow, you've got Stephen Colbert

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and Jimmy Kimmel and these other guys. You know, the

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Strikeforce five guys. So I charged a thirty dollars CPM.

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I'm gonna put six live reads host reads per episode, okay, six.

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I'm gonna have the guys put out fifty two episodes

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per year, so they're gonna do an hour a week

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per year. So the people that sell the ads for

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you normally will take around a thirty percent. But for

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this I used ten percent of the gross, which is

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a number I've seen with some pretty big shows. I've

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seen that first hand, one show doing a deal that

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gave the commercial seller ten percent of the gross. So

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let's use ten percent. Let's let's say that the Strikeforce

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five guys are getting a really good deal here, and

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we'll pay their agent ten percent, their manager ten percent,

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they're layer five percent. Okay, those are all the assumptions.

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Rreshoals at a thirty dollars CPM is one hundred and

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eighty thousand dollars gross. Will do that fifty two times

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a year. So in advertising, we're going to generate nine million,

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three hundred and sixty thousand dollars, or one hundred and

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eighty thousand dollars per episode. But don't forget, there's five guys.

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I'll cut to the chase here, after all the commissions

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and all the other math my napkin sketch math here,

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says Jimmy Kimmel. If he did Strike Force five with

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the other four guys, Jimmy Kimmel would clear about one

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point three million dollars a year, roughly around twenty five

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thousand dollars an episode. The same would be true of

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the other four hosts. Now one point three million dollars

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a year for working an hour once a week, where

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the other four hosts are going to help carry the load. Yeah,

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that's pretty good money. It is not sixteen million dollars

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a year or whatever Kimmel's making hosting a late night show.

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It's a lot better than daily comedy news basement money,

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I'll tell you that, but it's not eleven to thirty

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five money, and I just went back in after the edit.

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I just want to clear up. So that's the number.

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If Jimmy Caky did Strike Force five, if he did

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a solo show, he would make around nine million dollars,

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very very rough math, assuming one million downloads. I saw

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there's talk of another protest outside of the Kimmel offices on

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Monday in Los Angeles. I'll cover that if that becomes

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the news. There's a petition campaign on move On. As

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of Sunday afternoon, the petition had cornered around one hundred

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and fifty four thousand signatures demanding ABC and Disney reinstate Kimmel.

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These petitions usually mean nothing, and I want to remind

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the boycotters I'm on team Kimmel in case that isn't clear.

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But I want to remind you tonight when you're like, oh,

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it's Monday Night football. I love Monday Night football. Bucket,

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ap Man, they're my pals, the Banning Brothers, all that well,

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all that airs on ESPN, which is owned by Disney.

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Who are the people that have kicked Kimmel off the air.

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So you're either boycotting or you're not. I'm fine if

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you're not I understand. I'm going to watch Monday Night

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football today. I'm still going to watch the Empire strikes back.

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Perhaps I'm a sellout, perhaps I'm weak. I'm just being honest.

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You do you, but I just want to tell you.

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If you're boycotting, you got a boycott. You can't be like, oh,

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I'm boycotting Disney except Monday Night Football. That's not a boycott.

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Then you're just on my team, which is fine. Pull

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up next to me on the couch. That's your bonus

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for Monday. Keep checking the feed. I've got a few

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interviews scheduled. I'm not sure whether going to be deployed

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or not, so just keep checking the feed, and of

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course back on Tuesday morning with a quote unquote normal episode.

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See you then,