Aug. 4, 2025
Joe Rogan and Jay Leno Under Fire
Johnny Mac highlights a fierce Bill Burr interview available on Vulture. Johnny also discusses criticism toward Jay Leno from younger comedians about his recent interview and legacy, scrutinizing his balanced comedy claim. Additionally, he covers the discontent among Joe Rogan’s friends about moving to Texas, and recent humor segments targeting Rogan on 'The Daily Show.' The episode rounds out with quick hits on Stephen Colbert’s ratings boost, South Park's Trump-Satan episode, Samantha Bee’s insights on late-night show politics, and notable updates in stand-up comedy, including comedian Kountry Wayne's surprising retirement announcement and the top-grossing comedy tours.
00:29 Jay Leno's Controversial Legacy
00:46 Joe Rogan Under Fire
06:18 Late Night TV Ratings and Trends
08:41 Comedy Festival Updates and Reviews
11:14 Fringe Festival Insights
12:55 Luigi the Musical in San Francisco
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Caalaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack, who with
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another busy daily comedy news. There's a lot going on.
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I'm not going to cover today, but I want to
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call your attention to a pretty feisty Bill Burr interview.
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You'll find that on Vulture dot com and as a
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podcast in the Good One. I'll start picking away that tomorrow.
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But just other things I want to get to. The
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cool kids came for Jay Leno last week. They did
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not like the Jay Leno interview about Late Night and
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called out Jay for some hypocrisy. It's really interesting to
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see what Jay's legacy has become as the team Conan
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people just continue to pile on, and now the cool
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kids are coming ford Joe Rogan. There were two things.
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One from The Daily Beast. The headline. A number of
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Joe Rogan's comedy and podcasting buddies are having second thoughts
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about following him to Texas. Some of the comedians they
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single out, Shane Gillis, moved to Austin years after he
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was fired as a cast member of Saturday Night Live.
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They point out in June on Andrew Schultz's podcast, where
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Andrew was probably shocked to learn that Donald Trump didn't
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do everything he said he was going to do. Shane said,
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Texas effing blows. Gillis criticized Texas, describing how his home
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had a blackout for three days. Gillis said, the second
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we ran out of power, the house was ninety degrees
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and just bugs. Bugs came in immediately. The house filled
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with bugs, and I'm just laying in the dark. In
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twenty twenty four, Shane Gillis told vi Ivaughn, I just
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wanted to move to a place where you can do
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stand up during the week forever. It was just in
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New York, in LA. Now you can do it in Nashville.
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In Austin, Brendan Schaub said, I miss my community and
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my routine after moving from LA to Austin. Tim Dillon,
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who you can never take that seriously in any sentence
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that Tim Dillon ever speaks. Tim described Austin as a
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great place to raise a family as long as they
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like you, are dull and never want to succeed. In September,
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Tim was on Whitney Cummings podcast and called Austin and
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the soulas city that should be burned to the ground.
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He described the music scene as three heroin addicts busking
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with guitars. Whitney made fun of the Joe Rogan experience
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and said he'd rather have someone that makes knives than you. Right,
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they're just hoping that people he's flying miss their flight
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and they need someone at the last minute. Dylan has
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moved back to LA, we're told, but says of Texas.
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Yeah the taxes are better, and yeah, there are benefits
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to not being in LA, and yes LA has a
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host of problems. But I moved here because first and
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foremost I said something new will be good. I was wrong.
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The cool kids continue to go after Joe Rogan. Last week,
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on Wednesday's The Daily Show, they did seven minutes on
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Joe Rogan. They did a mock biopic. The narrator of
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the biopic says, a new thinker has emerged to grapple
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with the mysteries of our universe. He is the world's
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greatest thinker. They then showed clips of Rogan saying things
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like why do black people like menthol so much? And
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if you're drinking water, you're drinking dinosaur pe. The narrator
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continues and talk he did because the most fundamental truth
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about the modern world was finally within his grasp. That
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a man may speak forever without knowing things as long
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as he has a podcast, Rogan began his true life's
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project of absorbing the collected wisdom of the world's greatest
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wise men and every now and then a woman. They
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then show guests Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and Alex Jones.
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Then they highlighted the title of a YouTube video alleging
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to show all the times Rogan has used the N word.
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You know what, while I've gone here, let me open
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up one of the Leno pieces. I wasn't gonna do
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it at all, but since we're here from the Nation,
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the headline jay Leno's phony case for balanced comedy, They ask,
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why is it that every time a great late night
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host loses a job, jay Leno appears. That's just stupid.
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I don't know what d Steth Meyers weigh in on
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Colbert the Nation rights, really Jay Leno fair and balance comedian.
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A two thousand and nine George Mason University study found
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that of the thirty three thousand jokes Leno told about
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politicians during his first run as the Tonight Show host,
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he told forty four hundred and sixty eight Bill Clinton jokes,
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and nine and ninety nine about George Bush. They do
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add that, of course, there's no reason Leno shouldn't have
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gone after Clinton more than Bush if he wanted to.
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There's just no reason why Kimmel, Colbert Fallon shouldn't go
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after Trump more than anyone else. You know, part of this, guys,
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is just from a comedy standpoint. Clinton is funnier than
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George Bush. George Bush is funny, but George Bush is
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a lot funnier than Obama or Biden. Again, nobody has
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yet really to nail an Obama impression that's truly funny.
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None of the Biden impressions were funny. There are funny
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Trump impressions. There are funny Clinton's, there are funny Reagan's.
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There was a funny George H. Bush, There were funny Nixons.
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Chevy Chase figured out a way to do Ford. So yeah,
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for us to go back, you know what is its
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twenty five years later? No, it's thirty years later now,
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and be like, oh, Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, it's not funny.
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Leno's right leaning show regularly topped Lettermans in the ratings. Oh,
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I missed that Jay Leno's right leaning show. I missed
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that one. Okay, they did discuss the Winsky of it all.
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The Nation rights take, for instance, Leno's relentless slut shaming
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with the expensive Monica Lewinsky. In his own gauzy remembrance,
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Leno was a voice for fair play and civility. Back
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when Leno first began touting comedic civility in the Trump era,
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John Oliver threw a montage of his own Winsky jokes
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back at him because Leno wasn't any more civil than
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he was bipartisan. Leno certainly wasn't alone and going after Lewinsky,
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Bill mar David Letterman, more N Daoud, among many others,
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beat up on her. The difference is that Leno has
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a particular talent for dressing up his cruel streak and
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a folksy style of do you hear this water cooler banter?
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That's fair? Then the nation is mad that Leno made
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jokes about someone named Stella Libeck. They write that name
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is largely forgotten now, but she was the seventy nine
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year old woman at the center of the McDonald's Hot
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Coffee lawsuit. They end their piece with if Leno's first
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comedic reflex is to side with a multi billion dollar
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fast food chain over a scalded grandma. It's no surprise
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that decides with our babbling dictator president when he feels
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Late Night comics are too mean to him. I mean, yes,
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we all feel bad that a woman got burned with coffee,
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But of course the joke is, did you not know
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the coffee's high? I mean, I just don't get it, guys.
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At some point comedy is going to make fun of
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something and someone, Oh my goodness, I'm like, ten minutes in,
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I didn't even mean to do that story. We're going
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to be long today, friends, Let's get to it. John Okay,
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second with Late Night for a second, Late Nighter points out.
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Stephen Colbert had good ratings. He had an average weekly
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share of twelve point sixty three percent among total viewers.
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In his first full week of shows since CBS announced
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the cancelation, he allogged his best ratings in over two years,
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with an average of three point zero five million, more
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than the other two shows combined. Again, to be fair,
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Jimmy Kimmel's in guest host mode in the eighteen to
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forty nine demo, Colbert's weekly average jumped sixty four percent. Again,
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I'm sure a lot of that was the curiosity. On
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the Monday, the Letterman Podcast, Great podcast, check out the
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newest episode. They have Letterman's former producer Morty and famous
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radio DJ and former on this program and personal friend
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of mine Alex Bennett are the guests. Mike and I
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are planning on doing something to talk late night and
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late show. South Park had good ratings as well. In
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the three days after the premiere of the episode in
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which we see Donald Trump in bed with Satan, they
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got five point nine million cross platform viewers including on
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air replays. That's a sixty eight percent improvement on the
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season twenty sixth premiere. There was no episode last week.
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This week, the trailer suggests that we'll see Donald Trump
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grabbing Satan's leg under the table. I'm sure that will
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go over well in some parts of the capitol. Sam
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Bee was on Tom popp As podcast and weighed in
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on Colbert Gate. Was it money? Was it politics? Sam said,
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I think both things are true and real. These legacy shows,
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they're hamorrhaging money with no real end in sight. People
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are just not tuning in even remotely comparatively to how
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they used to. People are literally on their phones all
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the time for one thing, they don't need a recap
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of the day's events. We're consuming news media all the time.
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I do it too, but we don't relax in the
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same way by watching everybody get together, lay down in
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your bed, type TV and watch them jokes in some interviews.
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It's also true that when the President of the United
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States has to give a sign off on a corporate merger,
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the thing you can't do is make jokes about him.
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He's a thin skinned idiot, and we know he's like
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a pernicious cancer, and he cares about that stuff. Papa
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asked if TBS asked Sam to tone down her show's
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political stances. She said, one hundred percent. When a huge
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corporate mergers happening, nobody wants to cause trouble. Business trumps everything.
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Everything you think is important is absolutely impotent. It's not
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even a consideration. Sam's insight into ending the Late Show
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is it's so much easier for them to cut the
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Late Show loose with this merger coming down the pike.
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Probably the most agonizing decisions they were having were about
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how do we float this, How do we not get
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a lot of blowback? You know what I was going
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to tell you about the Toronto Comedy Festival. We'll do
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that tomorrow because it's not until September eighteenth. I'm seeing
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nothing but great reviews for the New and Naked Gun movie,
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which first of all, is amazing, and congratulations to them.
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Liam Neeson was asked other movies he enjoys. He said,
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Missus Outfire springs to mind and the outtakes were extraordinary too,
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and they aren't part of the movie too. Actually in
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the credits that I once shared a taxi with Robin
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Williams and a few other actors and he started rapping
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on some politician. I remember thinking, this is maybe what
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Shakespeare would have been like, just this incredible stuff pouring
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out of his brain in his mouth. He was a
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genius comedian Country Wayne with a shocker. On social media,
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he said, I got to come to Facebook because you
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all have been here since day one, all the reason
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I'm really able to sell tickets, and you all have
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been the reason I've been sustaining off stand up for
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the last ten years. So I had to come live
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and tell y'all, Hey, everybody, I love y'all. But when
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it comes to stand up comedy, my last show will
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be October fourth at the cob Energy Center in Atlanta.
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From my Amazon special Wow sad to hear that. I
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also hope this isn't a Craig Robinson situation where he's
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just trying to get attention, because that would be really,
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really lame. Wayne said. Now a lot of people are like, Wayne,
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You're leaving millions of dollars on the table. But the
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reason being, I tell everybody, when God tells you to move,
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you got to move some time. Sometimes you got to
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lose to win. Everything I got going right now, I
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put on the back burner for stand up for years.
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If you all can remember back in the day when
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I went and did stand up, I had to stop
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doing social media content. Everybody was mad I had to
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leave social media. But I had to leave social media
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to become the person I am in stand up today.
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Now I'm leaving stand up because a lot of stuff
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in Hollywood that I got going on, and God got
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a lot in me and creating these ideas to put together,
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which is the ideas you love. Billboard put out their
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report of the biggest tours Beyonce led the way. In June,
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Joe Coy sold forty two thousand tickets across ten shows.
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He grows two point six million dollars. Nicky Glazer grows
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three million, forty three seven hundred tickets across twenty shows.
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Gaba Glaciers three point two million, fifty two thousand, six
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hundred tickets nine shows. Nate Bergatzi three point six million,
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forty four nine hundred tickets six shows. Dude, keep doing comedy,
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Stop with the theme park nonsense. Matt Riiche grows four
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point two million dollars to lead the pack fifty two
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thousand tickets across five shows. Some other shows making some money.
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Tina Fey and Amy Poehler grows two point two million,
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John Stewart, John Millenium, Pete Davidson together one point four million,
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and in Dublin the two Johnnies, Johnny Smacks McMahon and
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Johnny b O'Brien one point three million dollars. Bounce on
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a lot of stuff today, which is always a good
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problem to have. In the summer. Voicemag dot UK has
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been catching up with comedians who were performing at the
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Fringe now underway. One of them is Aiden McQueen, who
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self describes as a stand up comedian from Ireland and
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a woman who's been through just enough therapy to monetize
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her emotional chaos. Waiting for Texto is my one woman
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comedy play about heartbreak, grief and healing in the age
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of WhatsApp, yoga and passive aggressive self help memes. Have
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you done Fringe before? Yes, I've done the stand up trenches,
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Flying in the Rain, performing the Three Men called Dave,
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and coming home with trench Foot in a new juke
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this year with a full length solo show, more Prepared.
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I'm pacing myself. We keep hearing about the pacing. Isn't
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that interesting. I'm pacing myself and bringing a collapsible stool
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for when I want to cry in the street with dignity. Boy,
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