Dec. 22, 2024
John Mulaney's Transformation
In today's episode of Daily Comedy News, host Johnny Mac discusses John Mulaney's interview with GQ about his focus and drive in stand-up comedy. The show also highlights insights and anecdotes from several comedians including Seth Meyers on Mulaney’s...
In today's episode of Daily Comedy News, host Johnny Mac discusses John Mulaney's interview with GQ about his focus and drive in stand-up comedy. The show also highlights insights and anecdotes from several comedians including Seth Meyers on Mulaney’s comedic style, Jim Jefferies on global comedy success, Anthony Jeselnik on acting and his evolving hairstyle, Preacher Lawson's tips for aspiring comedians, Sarah Silverman's views on cancel culture and growth, and Gianmarco Cerezi's memorable career moments. The episode wraps up with a humorous and challenging story about Ceresi’s corporate gig. Listeners are encouraged to share the podcast and explore the ad-free version.
00:00 John Mulaney's Journey
01:07 Jim Jefferies on Breaking into America
02:05 Anthony Jeselnik on Acting and Comedy
03:36 Preacher Lawson's Comedy Tips
05:08 Sarah Silverman on Cancel Culture
05:35 Gianmarco Soresi's Career Highlight and Worst Show
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Callaroga Shark Media, Hello Jenny Mack On Your Daily Comedy News.
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John mulaney told GQ, I can really be setting my
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ways in some ways, but I'm very good at major transformations.
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At Georgetown, he joined an improv group with Nick Kroll
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and Mike Probiglia, but said I had erratic work habits.
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I was very disorganized in a sense. I was always ambitious,
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but I wasn't like I'm going to direct every play
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in high school. I wasn't all over it in any way.
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He got to New York at age twenty three and
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said I hit the ground running. It was all of
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a sudden, this total focus and drive to do as
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much stand up as possible. I didn't drink alcohol anymore.
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I didn't take any drugs. I was just totally dedicated
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to one thing, kind of monastically, and it was awesome.
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GQ analyzed his style and they nailed it here. They wrote,
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He's expert at landing an audience deep into the thicket
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of a joke set up and then pausing just long
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enough to allow them to arrive at the punchline right
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before he does. When it works best, a single word
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detonates like a bomb. Seth Meyer says sense to the audience,
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I'm in control. I'm not particularly interested in which of
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these jokes you like and which you don't. No matter
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what happens, I'm going to be having a very good time.
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Jim Jefferies told review dot Com. When I moved over
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to America, there was this sort of myth that I
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was only funny because I said the C word and
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because of my accent. But I sold more tickets in
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Australia where they weren't fascinated by my accent and the slightest.
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So it's just good to see you can entertain people
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all over the world. It used to be to go
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to a country several times to try and break a country.
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When I came to America, arguably they'd only been a
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handful of comedians from overseas that ever broke America before that.
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Now you know about a whole heap of different comics
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from all over the world because you've seen their specials.
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I'm not on TikTok, so I'm a bit of dinosaur
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in that regard. I don't think my comedy plays out
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well on TikTok. I think part of the problem with
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TikTok is that we're seeing comedy in short form. Amen,
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So the long winded stories are the things that loop
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around in the callbacks and the shows being a show,
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we're sort of losing that nuance yep. In the same
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way that people don't listen to albums anymore, they're just
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listening to individual songs. They don't listen to albums as
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they're meant to be played out as the artists set
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it up to be heard. And I think that sort
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of happened to comedy as well. Yep. High five standing
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oh for me On that comment, crack dot Com asked
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Anthony Jelsink about being an actor. He said, I would
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enjoy it because I enjoy the camaraderie. Stand up's all
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on your own. With acting, you're working with people. I
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like that. I'm just not asked to do it very often,
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and frankly, I'm surprised I'm not asked. I'm a good
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looking guy. I have a very distinctive voice that I
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think they would use me in voice stuff. But I
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think at some point people will start asking me. But
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I'm spoiler. As a comic, I see comics who are
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making huge movies and I talked to them afterwards, and
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they're like, I lost money. If I just toured the
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whole time I was doing this movie, I would have
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done much better. It's not something I feel like I'm
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missing out on and I'm not that good. The interesting
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character is I wouldn't be able to play. I'd be thinking, Oh,
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someone else should be doing this, and that's a bad
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thing for an actor to be thinking. Cracked asked about
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Anthony's current hair style, Cracks observation, the older spike eer
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haircut seemed more in keeping with a villain. Now your
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hair is a little softer, not as threatening. I assume
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you think about how the character looks on stage. What
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prompted the change? Je Nic said, It's something I don't
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think about on stage, but it was something that I
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became very aware of after the last special when there
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was this huge debate about beard versus non beard and
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which is better for the character. The character seems more
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like a psychopath clean shaven, but I'm like, no, I
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like the beard. I decided to grow my hair a
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little bit longer on tour. I just thought, what would
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this do? Does this make me more of an a
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hole or less of an a hole? And let's be honest,
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I think having more of a styled haircut seems a
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little bit scarier. This is fascinating. It's more like we're
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putting on a show. Whereas the spiky haircut was easy
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to do. Anyone could do that. It just seemed like
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I'm walking out here doing this. I feel like I've
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gotten more famous in the past couple of years because
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of clips, and the clips are short. Here with longer hair,
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he feels it can be a little more anonymous in public.
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Preacher loss and has been out on the road doing
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the Funny as Bleep tour. And that's not me bleeping it,
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that's the name of the tour. Preacher said, I was
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very quiet, unless everybody in the class was quiet. Then
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I was like, all right, some people just really want attention.
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First off, everyone does. Let's just put that out there.
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No one wants to be ignored, but some people just
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wanted a little more. His tips for comedians get on
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stage immediately and just do comedy a lot. I think
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humor is like athleticism. Some people are born a little
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more than other people. Then there's some people that are
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just born a little funnier. But I don't care how
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athletic you are, you still have to learn how to
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shoot a basketball or dribble. You need to learn technique
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for comedy right every day, like it's your morning coffee.
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You should do it anyway for your mental health. It's
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not supposed to be fun. It's a job. You're not
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supposed to like jobs because they're working, and that's the
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trade off. Lawson says, I think I have the perfect
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amount of fame where if I go outside, there's people
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that recognize me. But it's not like I just want
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to eat with my family. I don't like when people
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take pictures or videos of me without my permission. I
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think that feels uncomfortable. It's like I never said I
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wanted to be recorded. As for controversial topics, Lawson says,
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anyone's going to get upset, but if it's a large
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group of people that are upset, I think it's usually
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because the comedian did a bad job of conveying the joke. Comedians,
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we're just storytellers. We're the same as you. When you
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go to the movies, you lose yourself for an hour
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and thirty minutes. You know you'd leave the theater feeling refreshed,
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like that was a good time. If you go to
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the movie theater you don't like the movie, you probably
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should have looked up the director. There's this narrative that
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you shouldn't apologize, which I think is stupid. I think
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there are times when the comedians should apologize and then
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they don't do it because they're like, no, I'm a
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comedi and it's like, no, actually you should apologize. But
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he adds, I really believe anyone could talk about anything,
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but sometimes you say dumb things like my bad, that
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was dumb. Sarah Silverman says, I don't really come from
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a place of fear that I'm gonna get canceled. I
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talk about stuff that I think is important or funny.
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I'm never looking upset people are offend people. Comedy is
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not ever green. If you're a comedian, you look at
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things you did ten years ago and don't cringe. You're
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not growing ideally, you're growing and changing and can't relate
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to the person you were. People get mad at me
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because I've apologized for things in the past. I think
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it's important to apologize when you're sorry and not apologize
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when you're not sorry. Everybody wins. Friend of the Show
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John Marco Sirizi is on Vulture's list of the comedians
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you should know and Will Know. They asked him, if
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you were immortalized as a cartoon character, what would your
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outfit be A very John Marco answer. Five inch shorts,
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a T shirt I got on Etsy for a high
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school musical production that I wasn't in that's also a
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little too short, a jean jacket that doesn't really make
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sense given the shorts, and high top nikes where one
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of the colors matches the color of the shirts text.
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Let's also throw in a thin gold Forever bracelet with
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a tea chirm that I got my girlfriend at a
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casino's tattoo convention, some Warpbey Parker glasses, and a brown
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leather watch, the two hands of which read Memento and Maury.
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Which musical nobody asked? Ideally it would be Falsetto's Company
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or Wild Party, just to be pretentious. Also, if I'm
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thinking about this as a cartoon for a wide audience,
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I'd probably go with fan of the Opera, even though
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I've never been much of an Andrew Lloyd Weberstan proudest
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achievement of your career so far? My jfl New Faces
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set is probably the only important set I've ever done
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that I wouldn't do over. I was at that show,
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he crushed. He was the best of the night. I
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wrote that down. I told you about it on the
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podcast the next day. I've told that to his face.
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That was a great set, he said. Generally, I found
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all these career milestones are fraught and stressful and imperfect.
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So in terms of feeling proud a panel in comparison
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to a new joke working, or even better, an old
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joke finally working. I did a pilot last year for
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a roast based panel show hosted by Anthony Jesselnik Interesting,
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and he anonymously mentioned me on his podcast the next week.
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I know this because I've been listening to that podcast
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to fall asleep to for years. I was already asleep,
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but my girlfriend heard it, shook me awake and was like,
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go back, go back now, it's pretty cool. I've been
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procrastlading filming an hour. Which comedian's career would you like
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to follow? John Mulaney, But just in terms of his
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personal life, his favorite worst show was getting hired to
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feature in a corporate gig in Santa Barbara. I think
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I was getting paid forty five hundred dollars to do
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twenty five minutes, which was hands down the most I'd
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ever made off a night of comedy. My mom drove
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me to the casino from LA and on the drive
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I looked at what company I was performing for. What
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I learned was it was less of a company and
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more of a union of sorts for West Coast electrical
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companies with a very intense ideological bent. Their newsletter had
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articles like has woke this Roob? And travel and COVID
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climate change and other lines Democrats want you to believe.
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I wish I could tell you I thought about not
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going through with the gig, but it would be a
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lie forty five hundred dollars. When I got there, my
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mom and I found ourselves surrounded by mostly men in
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their sixties thousands, all wearing full cowboy garb without looking
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like that ever been on a horse. So I met
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the other comedian, a kind and talented comic who nevertheless
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sold merch shirts that said who done farted? Hmm, I
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wonder who that was? Marco said. The comedy show started
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as all comedy shows should, with the singing of the
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national anthem. Then the auction, of course, which consisted of
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small guns, guns that were intended for warfare training packages,
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and you know, five friends to learn how to use
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those guns before or hopefully not after a wine tasting.
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Right as they were wrapping up the auction with the
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AK forty seven's, I looked through the playbill to ensure
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there wasn't going to be some kind of cross burning
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at the end, and that's when I saw the part
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with my name, which stipulated in big bold letters that
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the comedy portion of the evening was only possible thanks
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to a generous donation by Exon Mobile, you know, the
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evil company. I started freaking out, taking stupid comedian thoughts
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like well would George Carlin do? But I didn't have
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any cocaine, so I tried to think of a joke
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that in some way Abzombia the sin. So I got
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on stage and preceded a bomb for twenty three minutes.
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I wish I could say that was on purpose, despite
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the crowd, but it was more a mix of my
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lack of practice sticking to clean jokes plus second guessing
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jokes in the moment that I figured wouldn't play well
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with men old enough to have served in the Confederacy. Then,
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with two minutes left and no momentum to speak of,
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I went for it. At the time, I was closing
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with a joke about Titanic two, a recreation of the
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Titanic built by some billionaire who hopefully was on the
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recent submarine trip. Yikes. Normally I'd note that Titanic's voyage
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was much safer nowadays thanks to global warming, but this
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time I said it was because of the Iceberg's got
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a lot smaller thanks to my sponsor Exon Mobil. Wasn't
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a boo right away. First was just noise, a unified,
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confused groan, but then one old man was able to
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close his mouth long enough to produce a bee. I
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wouldn't say it was like an Apollo level boo. It
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was nothing like the Apollo in more ways than one.
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But it was my first real boo. And whenever I
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have an extremely crappy gig now I try to remind
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myself it's worth it for the story. That is amazing,
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