Aug. 12, 2025
Marc Maron and Jim Gaffigan on The Future of Stand-Up, Maron covers Taylor Swift! PLUS Letterman watches Dave Chappelle's Documentary
Marc Maron's thoughts on the future of stand-up and the impact of media fragmentation on comedy, the screening of Dave Chappelle's pandemic-era documentarym Updates on Amy Schumer’s recovery, Hassan Minhaj and Ronnie Chieng's new shows, Pete Davidson's Staten Island ferry project, and Eddie Murphy's fondness for Pete Davidson are covered.
Other news includes Bill Hader's anxiety issues, Matt Rife's cosmetics venture, and the return of Mitchell and Webb. Johnny also delves into Nate Bargatze’s new dog, Margaret Cho's critique of Dean Cain, Jay Leno's latest car sighting, and the opening of Joan Rivers' joke file exhibit. The episode wraps up with comedy special releases and highlights from the Edinburgh Fringe Festival.
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Callaroga Shark Media.
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Hi there, I'm Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news.
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In case you missed it. Yesterday afternoon, I dropped a
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commentary episode about this Howard Stern rumor that is just ridiculous.
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I said my piece there. You can listen to that
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later today. I'm going to drop another commentary episode about
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Mark Marin. That won't be a thing that I'm going
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to do every day. I just had two things on
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my mind back to back that I wanted to talk about.
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Speaking of Mark Marin, he had on his podcast his
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visit to the ninety second Street Why, where he was
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interviewed by Jim Gaffigan. Jim asked Mark Maron about the
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future of comedy. Now, I realize, as I'm putting this together,
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I listened to podcasts at least two X speed, and
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when I pulled the audio, I pulled it at two
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X speed. So if you're listening to me at two
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X speed, you're gonna have to listen to Jim and
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Maren at four x. But neither one of them speak
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very quickly. I think you'll be able to follow here.
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The question for Mark Marin is about the future of comedy.
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I have trimmed it for both pacing and language, and
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it's at double speed.
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What do you think it's going to happen in the
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next five years? And stand up?
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Well, sadly I believe about podcasts and stand up think's
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happening because of the fragmentation of media and the kind
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of you know, contraction of mainstream media and gate keepers
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which some people are good they're gone, like is it?
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So what happens ultimately with social media platforms and the
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kind of uh malignant spread of podcasting is that you know,
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people will adapt to anything, and if that becomes the
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primary you know world of entertainment, you know, the people
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eventually just adapt to it. So what has quality and
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what is elevated and what is produced proberly, well it
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will just you know, seem not necessary. So I think
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at of what's happening in stand up in terms of
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you know, crowdward clips and just you know, gunning for
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the hits. So you can you know, you know, get
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a job where people know you from a three minute
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peace where you talk to a couple about their kid,
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you know, and then you can fill a room and
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do more of that. Uh, I could get lowers the
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bar for everybody. So I think what will happen is
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that you know, well produced, well crafted, you know, thoughtful
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people that have chops and and a real you know, uhh, entertaining, grounded,
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you know, high quality stuff. Well, it just will become
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more and more unimportant, you know.
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But you know there is also no there is you know,
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it's you know people. I believe that people value their
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time even more than their money. And so like those clips,
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you know, like those people that do the crowd worker
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make fun of someone shirt and all that, and they
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don't have the stuff. They'll go once, but they won't
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go back and see that person again. I mean, I
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have a large thory I always been in the next
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one who does that, they'll go see that. I really
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want to believe you, But boy, people are dumb.
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Also a double speed. And I was thrilled to hear this.
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You've heard me, if you've listened for years, you've heard
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me slow burn about people named Jim Gaffigan. I'm not
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gonna pull my punch about Jim Gaffigan. You know, people
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that we were really good to in the early days
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of satellite radio, and then when they got a little
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more famous, they didn't know how to return calls or
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wouldn't come up anymore, got a little too big. Here
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is Mark and Jim talking about and I never hear this.
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You always hear about how Netflix helped comedy, and it
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has gotten a race from history. Satellite radio helped stand
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up comedy. Please understand that both serious satellite radio and
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XM radio, led by the late Sunny Fox, we helped
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stand up comedy. Okay, please understand this. This has somehow
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gotten erased. It goes like straight from the homedy boom
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of the eighties and the cable TV shows, and then
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it skips straight to Netflix and everybody skips that decade there.
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So I was very happy to hear Jim Gaffigan and
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Mark Maron talk about the paychecks they got from satellite radio.
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Let's listen.
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I used to describe it as you would because it
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was after this eighties comedy boom collapse. Yeah, it was
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essentially going into phonograph repairman as an occupation. It didn't
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make sense and it wasn't like, oh, I forth, you know,
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saw that it was gonna you know, that cable was
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going to you know, the simultaneously. You know, it ended
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up being a joke on The Simpsons, how bad stand
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up was, but it was an outlet. That was My
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first TV appearance was on Caroline. But I had no
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expectation that, you know, satellite radio would send you a
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check every you know, a couple of most.
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Things to firstart to come in. When I got an
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email from sound Exchange, I'm like, this is a racket.
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Sound Exchange and I talk too of comic contuity. You better sy
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not cause I got money for you the one and
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you always any get the resgual from Sattle.
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I'm like, Wow, you're welcome, Jim, call me back sometime.
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As I mentioned, I will have a bonus episode about
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Mark maren later today. Mark Maron really likes that Taylor
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Swift song that he used in his recent special, to
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the point where he performed it live. Let's take a listen.
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That is not bad at all. Mark Maron out on
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Netflix today. Jim Jeffries Two Limb Policy is the sixth
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special for Netflix. I had mentioned late last week that
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they were going to screen Dave Chappelle live in real
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life at the twenty third Annual Martha's Vineyard African American
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Film Festival. That did indeed happen. The Holler Reporter says
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the film chronicle Dave's Cornfield comedy shows during the pandemic.
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It was originally titled Dave Chappelle This Time, This Place
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and originally premiered at Radio City in twenty twenty one
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during a Tribeca festival. The Holly Reporter says fall out
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over trans jokes reportedly derailed distribution. In response, Chappelle did
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a special tour featuring the dock at a comedy show.
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The documentary remains unavailable to the general public. The Holler
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Reporter says audience laughs and cheers were frequent during the
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screening of the feature. The film feature candid glimpses of
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Chappelle's interactions with John Stewart, Bob Saggett, Chris Rock, Kevin Hart,
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Tiffany Hattish, and David Letterman. It also reveals Dave Chappelle's
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role as a mentor to Michelle Wolfe, who lived with
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the Chapelle family during the pandemic. As the credits rolled,
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the Holly Reporter says, Chappelle, dressed in a suit no
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tie sneakers, took it on stage and awkwardly discussed the documentary,
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noting that he didn't know about the scheduled open form
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because I didn't read the for sure. I just showed
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up from the stage. He shouted out to David Letterman,
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who was in the audience. He told Letterman, I love
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you so much.
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Bro.
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Dave was handed a microphone and shared that Dave Chappelle
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is the gold standard he cites when advising young comedians
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in and around his native Indiana asking whether or not
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they should go to La Letterman says, if you're not
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going to be as good as Dave Chappelle, there's no
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need to leave. Quoting Chappelle here, I've gone on and
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get snubbed by the Grammys and the Emmys because someone
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thought it was a good idea to tell trans jokes.
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Dave is doing Dave Chappelle's Summer Camp in Yellow Springs,
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Ohio again this summer. There were shows this weekend and
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then the weekend of August twenty first through the twenty third,
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and that'll be a wrap for the summer. Amy Schumer
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revealed she is recovering from back surgery. She was on
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social media posing with a walker. Amy Schumer explained, since
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my surfing injury back in the day, my l five
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has been killing me today. I got a laminectomy. It's
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a short recovery and when I'm feeling better, I will
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buy a bra in the day. Amy had posted a
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selfie from the hospital with a caption about overhearing that
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pickleball really keeps this place in business. Hasan Minaj and
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Ronnie Chang are doing well. They've added a fifth show
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to their run at the Beacon Theater December second, third, fourth,
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and fifth. They're sold out. They've added a ten pm
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show on December second. I can't stab that lady, You're crazy.
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Pete Davidson gave an update about the Staten Island ferry.
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He said, when me and Colin got the call, they
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were like, we should at least bid on it. We
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had no idea, no one else would. Now we have
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a couple of things I don't even know if I
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could talk about yet, but we have a couple of
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brand things coming out and some cool stuff. Seth Meyers said,
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when I saw the size of the ferry, I laughed
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so hard. It was ten times what I thought you
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guys had bought. Pete said, it's a five thousand seater,
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it's four floors. It's insane. We rebuilt one floor, and
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then you know, we're using that for now, and then
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once we accrue some more, we'll do some more. Seth
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made fun of that and said, I love when you
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guys try to flip this. You're gonna be like and
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there's four more floors, and they're like, can we see it?
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And you're like, no, you can't see the other floors.
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Eddie Murphy worked with Pete Davidson on that movie that
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came out on Amazon last week and said, I love Pete.
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He's an interesting mix, talented and funny, with great chemistry.
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We have a lot in common. We both started a
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stand up comics really young. We were both on SNL
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really young. We both lost our dad's really young, and
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we both have a connection with women. The comedians usually
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don't have ICEO.
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Weated there.
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Eddie Bill Hater revealed the reason he skipped the SNL fifty.
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He told Seth Myers that Andy Samberg called him about
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a digital short where everyone at SNL has anxiety. Hater
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said he didn't want to be in it because I'm anxious,
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But when Yang wound up playing the part that Samberg
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had conceived for Bill, Hayter Peter said of his time
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on SNL. It was really shaky and everything. I was
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really anxious. He said he would often get migraines. His
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vision would go out on the Christmas Show. During his
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first season, he got a migraine right before going on stage.
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He explained, my vision goes, we had to go out
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there and I had to hold on to Jason Zadaikas
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just trying to figure out what my line was. Matt
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Rife getting into cosmetics. He's making his debut for Elf Cosmetics.
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Rife appears in a commercial that's a parody of a
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legal firm commercial called the Law Officers of Alfino and Schmarn's.
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Rife and his partner crack down on overpriced beauty products
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while spotlighting ELF's commitment to clean, cruelty free, and high
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performance products at jaw dropping prices. On the list of
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cool things, where at one end we have I don't know,
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John Mlaney's book club, and then we had Jim Gaffigan
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Bourbon on there. This is way further down the list
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than Jim Gaffigan Bourbon. Just in case you're keeping track,
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Mitchell and Webb getting back together. I am psyched for
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this now. If you don't know who Mitchell and Webb,
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Are you do there's a comedy clip, a sketch that
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makes the routines. It's two Nazis and one of them
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asked the other, are we the baddies? Those guys? That's
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Mitchell and Webb. If you are a little more hip
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to comedy, you are familiar with their various sketch comedy
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shows and their sitcom peep show. They're coming back for
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Channel four with Mitchell and Webb, are not helping a
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brand new sketch series No premiere in September. Six episodes
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featuring Mitchell and Webb leading a new generation of comedy
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talent and a chaotic blend of sharps, sat tire, dry
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wit and it's a real silliness comedy rule of three there.
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In a statement, Mitchell and Web said, when Channel four
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asked us to do another sketch show, we were startled,
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bemused and available. It's a perilous time for the industry,
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and so it's our hope that relaunching the trickiest genre
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of comedy is a brilliant piece of counterintuitive commissioning. We're
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looking forward to working with our brilliant new cast. Despite
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their youth and talent and would like to encourage viewers
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to watch the commercial breaks carefully and do their best
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to buy something. It doesn't have to be a car,
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but you know, a box of chocolates or an app
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or something. Channel four is head of Comedy, Chirleie Perkins said,
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and this is an actual quote, sketches back Baby. We're
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so honored to be working with David Robert and their contemporaries,
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alongside an exceptional collective of newer voices. Blah blah blah ah.
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But nothing on the internet can be liked. Some people
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found the teaser unfunny. On Reddit, somebody posted absolutely love
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these two, but I hope the show's better than this sketch.
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Another said I hate to say it, but I didn't
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even smirk. More than anything, it just felt very dated.
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is the clip they've chosen to preview the series. Another
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not gonna lie. That was a pretty unfunny sketch. I
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don't go traveling a lot, so maybe I don't get it.
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and Webb are not helping. September Channel four gossip Conna
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whispers in the street gossip con probably Mopie gossip Conn
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Aware the rumors meet with Johnny Mackett's always a Tree.
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