June 19, 2025

Marc Maron's Emotional Journey and Joe Rogan's Australian Appeal

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac discusses Marc Maron's reflections on ending his podcast and participating in a new documentary, "Are We Good?"

The episode also covers Burt Kreischer's unexpected moment in a WWE Raw segment, a Sydney Morning Herald profile on Joe Rogan's influence in Australia, Nate Jackson's upcoming Netflix special, and Chelsea Handler's headlining at the Rochester Fringe Festival. Tributes to late comedian Ken Flores and the continuation of his tour's legacy are also discussed.

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Callarogas Shock Media. Hello there, I'm Johnny Mack with the

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Daily Comedy News and Mark Marin was at the Tribeca

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Film Festival talking about the new documentary he's part of.

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Will talk about that in a second, but the question

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of course, hey, you're ending your podcast, Mark said, I

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do put it a lot of it out there, and

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if I can handle it and I can be gracious

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about it, and I don't know what it's going to

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be like to not do it twice a week, and

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I don't know what part of it is my own

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neediness or my own need to connect. But I can

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feel the weight of abandoning these people who have written

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over the years you saved my life. I got sober

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because of you. I didn't kill myself. And then there's

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part of me that's like, are they going to be okay?

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Should I reach out to them? Personally? It meant the

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world to me and really evolved my sense of self

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and my sense of being a person. All of this

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stuff I do is fueled whatever my particular creativity is,

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and I'm sure I'm not going to disappear after the podcast,

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but the goal will now be to figure out where

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to channel that creativity. One of those things. He's got

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an HBO comedy special that'll be out in August, so

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between that and the podcast ending and the documentary, a

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lot of them are mare. In this summer, Mark spoke

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about putting the special together and said, my process is

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moving through these things to maybe no laughter and not

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quite having a way to make it funny or through

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line of things. Seeing that part of my process, which

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is not a standard stand up process, is where I

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knew going into the documentary that telling the stories was

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going to be emotionally loaded, and I didn't have any

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real control over those emotions, but I knew it being

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public with the feelings would eventually enable me to settle

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into that, and if I believed in comedy's ability to

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elevate those feelings into something common and funny, if not touching,

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that it would reveal itself on stage. So we had

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to do that. For better or worse. The work I

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do in general is fairly candid and personal. The real

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question becomes how do you do this? When do you

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do it? The choice to do a podcast episode days

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after Lynn Shelton passed away, my producer was like, we

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don't ever have to do a podcast again if you

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can't handle it, and I'm like, well, I don't know.

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I think it's kind of important to expose this process

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in a way because everybody goes through it one way

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or another. You can outrun grief, and it's something that

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people don't really talk about. Part of what I was thinking,

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I owe it to myself and just what I do

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as an artist performers to have public experience with this.

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The documentary is called Are We Good. Julie Sebaw is

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the producer and spoke to The New York Post about

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the doc. Julie says, I made the master timeline of

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his life when through all his podcast episodes, arranged the

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shoots at the venue, spent five years a story editor,

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plotted out with the different threads of the film we're

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going to be and gave my sometimes harsh opinion on

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what should be included. The Post was curious does the

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narrative of the doc change with WTF coming to an end?

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Julie said, a lot of people are curious about that

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my phone blew up when that happened, But there's a

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plan and the release will be around the same timeframe

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is when the podcast is ending. This is Maren we're

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talking about, though, he's going to do everything he wants

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on his own terms. I think we're all excited to

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see what the next version of Maren is going to be,

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but he does seem happy settling into his old man phase.

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The Post asked what it's like working with Mark Maren.

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Julie said, there's never a dull moment with Mark Maron.

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He's a highly watchable person, but also a bit volatile.

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When you start seeing how he lives and where everything

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comes from into his mind, it's rewarding on a whole

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other level. He gets super emotional sometimes. After a Seattle set,

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Lynn's friends came up to him and said he knew

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Linn is proud of him. We instantly see his face

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crumble as he takes pictures with fans. The Post was

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curious what landed on the cutting room floor. Julie says

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there were a lot of scenes or moments of him

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trash talking comedians that didn't make the finished product. There's

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still a little bit in there, but it wasn't the

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crux of the movie. We didn't need to bring an

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outside controversy into something that's already a lot to deal

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with as a film on its own. That's interesting, right,

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Wonder who it is Julie's working on that Mitch Hedberg documentary,

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the one with Jeff Siegel. I'd spoke to Jeff a

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few months ago. Now looking forward to both those documentaries.

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Bert Kreischer and Raw Recap explained what went down in

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the ring on April seventh. Bert Krescher had appeared in

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a segment during the episode of ww RAW. Bert wound

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up hopping the barricade to put a stop to Austin

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Theory and Grayson Waller's attack on CM. Punk Kreischer said

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the moment wasn't planned. He had proposed doing a spot

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earlier in the evening Triple H veto at at Triple

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H has creative control. But once Waller and Theory He's

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beat down of CM started taking place, Bert says, they

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take me over, and I just pull my belt off

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to defend myself because I don't know what's gonna happen.

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I'm in way over my head. All of a sudden,

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Sampunk's like getting the rings. I get in the ring

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and he's like, can you choke slam him? And I

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was like, I think so. So he just put his

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throat in my hand. I heard sampunk go one two boom,

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and brother, I would to say every man deserves to

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lose his virginity to the woman he loves and to

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choke slam a person from a different country. That's all

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I'll say. The Sydney Morning Harold wrote a big profile

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piece about Joe Rogan and the Joe Rogan Experience. Jordan

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Baker writes under the headline, Joe Rogan's message can be

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rambling and unpolished, yet men idolize him. This might be why,

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Jordan writes, Joe Rogan likes to hunt and cook his

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own food. He shoots with a bow, elk with their

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wild screams or his favorite prey, then barbecues the meat

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and serves a thinly cut with cheese and jalapinos. He

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uses wheaton psychedelics, reads Hunter S. Thompson and dabbles in

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stand up comedy. He's a mixed martial arts expert and

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nurtures his hard, nuggety physique with grueling workouts at Experimental Supplements.

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Rogan is a man's man and many Australian men love him.

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His followers are not just fight fans. Jim Burrows and

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fellow vaccine skeptics, highly educated or bane and politically centrist

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men listen to. One anonymous fan says, who wouldn't want

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to be a skilled martial artist with loads of muscles?

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Would you rather be that guy or be known for

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being witty or intelligent? Yeah, I'd rather be that guy.

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The Herold tells us of a Sydney based chief executive

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who listens regularly and says, if you go to the

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pub with your mates and shoot the stuff for a

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few hours, the conversation goes from the footy to taxes

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to did you hear about the crazy celebrity? That's what

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you get from Rogan? Do people say you've got to

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be careful of Joe Rogan? And the Manisphere? Are people

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from legacy media who are losing out to him? Jordan

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Beger continues, It's a conversation with no specific purpose, reminiscent

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and freshman lying on the university lawn, gazing at the stars.

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His stick is open minded curiosity about everything, even theories

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that are discredited. He hates talking points and scripts. He

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expects his guests to say what they think rather than

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spin answers to avoid stepping on toes, I really like

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this piece a lot. How they quote Jack, who's twenty

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six and works in insurance, and I think Jack understands

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the show and likes it for the same reasons that

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I do. Jack says he's having a bit of fun.

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He might be having a few drinks on the podcast.

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He's debating things. They talk about, interesting topics, a different

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point of view. I just think he's a funny, good bloke.

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That's how I feel about the show. I don't take

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it too seriously. I find it easy on the years.

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It's a good late night podcast if you're ever in

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trouble sleeping. I like it a lot. Netflix announced Nate

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Jackson will have a special on July eighth. It is

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called Super Funny. Nate Jackson tackles everything from racially questionable

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cookies to other everyday absurdities. Nate is also going to

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be in that office spinoff reboot whatever it is side

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project The Paper, so we'll be hearing a lot about

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Nate Jackson and Chelsea Handler will be your headliner at

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the twenty twenty five Rochester Fringe Festival that's coming up

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in September. So I shared this in the Facebook group

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which is Daily Comedy News podcast group. Remember the Nate

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Brighetzi Esquire profile that came out in May, So I

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was actually looking at it again and in it it

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had a photo shoot, and it came away feeling a

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little weird. So here's Nate, and I understand, you know

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what Esquire is going for, but they want us to

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know that Nate Berghetsi is wearing a fifty six hundred

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dollars jacket, a four hundred and twenty eight dollars shirt,

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three hundred and twenty eight dollar trousers, a one hundred

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and twenty eight dollars tie, seven hundred and ninety five

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dollars shoes, a ten thousand, six hundred dollars watch, a

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three hundred ninety five dollars ring, and a two hundred

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and seventy five dollars bilt. And I don't know, as

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I posted, I go, is this supposed to make Nate

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more likable? Seems to disconnect, and then some of the

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gang was debating that in the Facebook group Daily Comedy

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News Podcast Group. Again, I'm not like walking around all

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day going I can't believe Naper gets he's wearing a

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ten thousand dollars watch. But it just seemed a little

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bit of a disconnect from his everyday image. Whatever Jimmy

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Kimmel taking the summer off. David Spade mentioned that he

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will be one of the fillins this year. Again every

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time kim Ol starts going, oh, maybe I won't host

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Late Night anymore. And I understand public negotiating. It's like, dude,

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you get the summer off. If you could stretch out

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your winter break, you could cut down the three days

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four days, and you probably do four days now. You

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can cut down the three. Abc'll keep you. You might

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have to take a little less money, but don't walk

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away from the show. Ken Flores, who passed away earlier

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this year, is one of the comedians in Hulu's LOL Live.

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The La Times wrote a nice piece about Ken. Gabe

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Iglesias talked about having Ken open for him in twenty

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twenty three. Gabe says it was a highlight to have him.

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His family's mom, dad, and friends were there with him

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and fifteen thousand people that night. He remembers Flores as

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kind and respectful. People did like him, and that's very tilling.

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Ralph Barbosa said, the most memorable thing about him is

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how really was Ken never kissed anybody's butt. She made

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me respect him a lot more because that means everything

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he got was through talent and hard work. Flores was

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going to tour this year with Renee Vaka and Ralph Barbosa.

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Renee and Ralph continue to tour. They adopted the tour

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name from Ken The Butterfly Effect, and they split the

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profit three ways to include Flores's family. Barbosa said none

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of us would do it unless it was split this

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even during every show they play an unreleased fifteen minute

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segment of Flores. Becka says he's still killing it in

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