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Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
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daily comedy news. Tomorrow on this program, one of two
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things is going to happen. Either I'm gonna tell you
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my guest today is Matthew Bissard, or I'm gonna tell
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you how Matthew Bisard canceled. And I have no reason
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I think he's going to cancel. Well, that's a plan
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for tomorrow because I'm taping him in about an hour.
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Matt Riife's book came out this week kind of quietly.
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It took two days for anything on Google to show up.
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I had kind of forgotten. I don't know what to
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make of that, but now he seems to be doing
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some press. The book is called Your Mom's Gonna Love Me,
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and he talked about his change in looks. Did Matt
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Rife have plastic surgery. He claims it was simply puberty
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that led to an accelerated appearance change. He writes puberty,
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after its sweet time for more than twenty years, finally
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decided to hit me square in the face. He claims
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he went from looking like a thirteen year old to
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an actual Grownish man. He says his wider and more
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prominent features were all from a bizarrely stunted journey through puberty.
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People who have accused him of getting classic surgery have
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a frightening lack of common sense, and claims that his
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attractiveness has negatively affected his career. In the book, he says,
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is a comic, you're supposed to make the audience like you, right, Well,
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who the f likes attractive people? No one? Okay. He
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did an interview with US Weekly. He says he has
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no regrets about anything. It's comedy. Sometimes you don't hit
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the mark. Plenty of people think I did. He was
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referring to the controversial joke in his November twenty three
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special Natural Selection. He says, to me, the joke was
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just that, a joke. I wasn't trying to make some
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kind of profound statement about the state of society. I
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was trying to set the tone for the rest of
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the show via personal spin on a classic joke. He
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wrote that practically overnight, and he went from a TikTok
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sensation to basically canceled. Maybe it wasn't dear taste. That's fine.
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That happens, not to me very often, but it happens.
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But that doesn't make me a support of domestic violence.
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I mean I grew up with an abusive stepdad. Verbal abuse,
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psychological abuse, fiscal abuse I experienced at all. He says.
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The only negative thing about the special is that people
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were upset. He says it's inevitable with almost any comedian.
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We're in the business of making people happy. But I
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gotta be me. The immense positivity I received at the
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very beginning of my career can't last forever. It sought
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me to respectfully not give a hoot. I know my intentions,
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I know where my heart lies. Matt turns thirty in
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September of twenty five and said this was the perfect
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time to release a memoir and show fans the real hymn.
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Not only did I feel it necessary to explain more
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about my life and everything it took to get here,
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but it also feels like I've already lived a lot.
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So much of your life when you're in the public
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eye is open interpretation. Gave me a chance to tell
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my story on my terms. Matt Riife went on the
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view Whoopy Goldberg said the book is wonderful and asked
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if he recorded the audiobook version. Raife said he did
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the audiobook a little lazy, but I respect it. Joy
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Behar said the comedians are runner attack now. Raife pointed
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out that his close friend Nate Berghetzi, I didn't know
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those two were friends. That's fascinating. He says. Nate doesn't
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come under the same fire for his jokes, which are
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less raunchy. That's where you'd have to decide how much
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you want to be yourself and how much you want
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to pander to a community that might not even care
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about you in the first place. Whoope, Goldberg greed, telling
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Rife on the panel that comics are always under fire.
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Inlander spoke to David Cross and I asked him about
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the people he surrounds himself with. Is that important to
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his own creativity? Cross said, well, it's less about importance
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and just what I prefer. It's a great thing that
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I'm able to do. I mean, I know plenty of
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people who aren't creative, but creative people are more fun
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to hang out with. He talked about his podcasts and
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said for years I didn't do one. I had no desire.
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I don't listen to podcasts myself. I have nothing against them.
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I just don't occupy my time that way. Then I
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started doing it. I loved it. It's really fun. It
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is really fun, and they're just conversations. I would have
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the why I approach it is what I tell people.
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It's just like, imagine we're strangers and we're sitting next
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to each other at a pub that kind of conversation. Wow,
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it sounds like he went to podcast programming executive school.
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One oh one. The amount of meetings I've been in. Oh,
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you know, it's just a conversation. Cross, Do you get
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annoyed by people who come up and recite arrested development lines?
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Cross said, Oh, that's annoying. I've experienced pretty much everything,
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and by far most people are cool and respectful, but yeah,
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there are plenty of folks that aren't. Good question here,
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what's it been like seeing a decent chunk of the
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commit landscape shift from alt comedy to alt rights comedy.
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I don't know if I agree with the premise. It's
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a good question, but there's It's not like alt comedy
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went away. Joe Rogan opened a club and Tony Hinchcliff's
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podcast took off. That's it, Relax everybody, Cross it Well,
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I mean it's depressing because I've never really enjoyed or
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take import in comedy that punches down and makes fun
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of the disenfranchised or vulnerable out there. That's never been
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my thing. So it's a bummer that it's so celebrated,
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you know, financially rewarded. I mean, I don't make one
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one hundred thirty amount of money that some of those
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guys are. But I'm going to do my stuff and
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always be me. I've always had a kind of stew
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of different stuff. I have very silly jokes. I have
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some that are kind of a little offensive. I have
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stuff that's anecdotal. I'd say easily a third of the
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set is just about anecdotal stuff. This thing happened to me,
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or this thing I observed, And then obviously I dip
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into the current state of affairs. And there's always going
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to be a little religious stuff in there for people
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who know my body of work, which there are literally
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decades worth of specials and alms and stuff. It's that MOA.
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Mayer's show is getting a season two. The show is
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called mo. You may remember this one, the Netflix comedy
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about a Palestinian immigrant attempting to secure Silomon Houston I
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either didn't know or forgot they renewed it. I like
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that show a lot. It was very good. The next
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batch of episodes spoilers, we'll see Moe stranded across the
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border and desperate to get back to Houston before his
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family's asylum, hearing he's going to need all the hustle
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and charm he can muster. Little does he know that
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the journey home is just the start of his troubles,
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and there's a new guy in town ready to steal
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both his longtime love Maria and his Falafel Tago recipe.
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Mo back on Netflix January thirtieth, Moa Mara says, I'm
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thankful to continue to tell a universal story of struggle
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that relates to so many refugees and millions of underrepresented
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humans trying to be seen around the globe. Sarah Silverman
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was politically active this fall, supporting the losing candidate. After
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the electoral College numbers came in, Silverman said, I thought,
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oh God, what am I doing? Why am I on
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the road right now? I want to go home, But
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being on the road has made her feel better about
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the future. Sarah says, it's been really for whatever it's worth,
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a bit of a solve. I don't know what fresh
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air we're in for, but to be together in a
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big group of people at night, it's been nice. Having
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that kind of feeling connect on a local level has
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been oddly comforting. The optimist in me feels like community
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is going to be our savior. Being on tour feels
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like the beginnings of that for me. Bill Maher, who's
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totally not going to quit his HBO show, Stop dude,
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listen to yesterday's podcast, mar is taping his next special
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tonight and tomorrow at the CIBC Theater in Chicago. Defector
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wrote an article that caught my attention. The headline crowd
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work isn't a substitute for comedy? Right there. I love
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the article because they've already nailed the premise. Defector writes,
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I hate to say it, but the biggest laugh in
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James Acaster's new special, Heckler's Welcome, comes from a hackle.
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I made it seven minutes into that special, or was
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it eight? I can't remember. I think I made it
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seven into Jesly Neck and eight into a caster. Either way,
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a total of fifty minutes between the two. Didn't enjoy
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either one Defector writes fast forward about thirty minutes into
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the latest special on the punch line to another a
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Caster joke as a guy yelling to a bunch of
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bullies that their parents don't love them, to which one
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audience member pipes up, my parents are dead. A Caster
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is so impressed by the callback that he says, lovely
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to have a Heckler in here who appreciates stretcher to
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be fair to the audience. Heckler's welcome is in a
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Caster's best work. From the title on the setup, you'd
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expected to be quite a bit of intervention, and maybe
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that's what he was expecting, but there isn't a ton
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Yeah that was I can't even get out of sentence.
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I'm so perplexed by the special. Yeah, I was watching it.
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I'm like, where are the Hecklers, what's going on? Where's
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the comedy? And I bailed that life is too short.
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I got too much to watch. If you can't get
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to it in the first seven eight minutes, I gotta
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move on, Defector, right. So I wonder if ay Caster
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thought it'd have more to work with by opening the
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floor to the Hecklers, But he was a little thrown
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off by the relational change to his audience. I'm not sure,
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but I know he's usually a lot better than this,
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and they recommend that you check out his previous special
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Coldasignia Hate Myself nineteen ninety nine for an example. Matt Rife,
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that browie comedian who sells out arenas and looks like
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he was manufactured by a chad machine. Hey, look, Matt
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Rife did not have plastic surgery. He's made that clear. Okay, defector.
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He became TikTok famous about six years ago off his
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crowd work. I mean, fine, he's quick, but the recurring
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Nazi punch lines also seem a little overly available to him,
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and explains that these clips allowed you to promote your
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gig gun Law without ruining it for anybody who actually
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pays to come. It's kipping ahead. Despite CrowdWork being leveraged
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in the past by older comics like Todd Barry, who
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in twenty fourteen released the crowd Work Tour, newer comedians
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say they're expected to produce content incessantly, and releasing audience
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interactions allows them to do that without burning material or
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SNL Writer and comic Vanessa Jackson sold the new York Times.
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The younger crowds, I think enjoy authentic content more than
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something that's crafted. Wow, I'm just gonna build a cabin
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up here on Old Man Mountain then and listen to
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Old Kamedy. Colin Jos is out there promoting what is
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it pop culture Jeopardy? I keep wanting to say celebrit Jeopardy.
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It's pop culture Jeopardy. I actually misspoke that in the
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Wednesday episode. Now to use the AI to replace my
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own words, you'll hear someone say pop culture jeopard if
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you want to go back and hear that at it.
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Joe said, I found pop Culture Jeopardy harder than regular Jeopardy.
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I was really impressed. You have to know different erarors
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really well. You know, I got a trivia on Wednesday night,
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and part of it is, you know, my crew and
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I were reasonably smart and reasonably educated. It depends what
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the trivia guys pick. Like some nights they hand in
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I just called them arian and gro questions and I'm like,
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we have no chance tonight because whatever they're into, like
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twenty ten's music and I'm like, we don't know any
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of this. And then other weeks they ask a lot
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of eighties questions and we crush and we went a
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T shirt. Joe said, I was fascinated when no one
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would know something from the nineties, or no one would
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know something from the early two thousands. Maybe that's just
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generational because there were a lot of younger groups competing.
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Pop Culture is so different for everyone in what sticks
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with them, and especially in modern things can get very
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divided because in almost in an algorithmic way, your experience
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with culture is so fragmented. Joe says, I promise, in
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no way am I trying to steal Ken Jennings's job.
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He's very good at his job. I also have a job.
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He and I texted during the Pop Culture Jeopardy tapings.
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Actually he was supportive. What he was saying is true.
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There's almost no one that knows what it's like to
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host the game. You know, all those crazy specific things
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you have to do in every game and we keep
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track of. In addition of just what seems like normal
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hosting stuff, the gameplay of it is so specific and
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fast and precise that it's just an experience that almost
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no one gets to have. It's like talking to someone
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who used to host Weekend Update. It has its own
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vocabulary and its own experience. That's very specific. He used
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to host Weekend Update. Well, he has released a deluxe
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edition of his Holiday Seasoning Christmas album. He added nine tracks. Now, Jimmy, dude,
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what if I bought this thing three weeks ago? Say,
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I spent fifteen bucks and now you're like, here's nine
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more tracks. I mean, I have Apple Plus, so I
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don't care. It's all unlimited streaming for me, except for
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that pesky monthly payment. But you know, if I had
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actually bought a CD or a cassette or an a
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track and now you drop nine more songs, come on,
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that's not cool. Who did this? The new tracks are
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called Christmas Alone. The Elves are unionizing Broadway. Do you