Aug. 18, 2024

Michael Ian Black calls Andrew Dice Clay a hack

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac discusses Michael Ian Black's commentary comparing Donald Trump to Andrew Dice Clay, both deemed as 'hacks' keeping outdated acts. Hannah Einbinder speaks on The Last Laugh podcast about hack comedians and her stand-up journey. Matt Reif reflects on his crowd work and career growth from self-funding YouTube specials to gaining a loyal audience. The segment also features a humorous take by Jim Gaffigan on gardening, Bella Humphries' empowering comedy about PMDD, and Fringe review snippets of shows by Rosemary Fails and Lewis Katz.

00:11 Michael Ian Black vs. Andrew Dice Clay
01:24 Trump as a Stand-Up Comic
02:34 Hannah Einbinder on Hack Comedians
04:25 Matt Reif's Journey and OnlyFans
05:30 Jim Gaffigan's Gardening Humor
06:49 Bella Humphries and PMDD Comedy
07:40 Fringe Show Reviews

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Callaroga Shark Media.

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Hello, Jenny Mack with your daily company news. Michael Ian

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Black wrote a piece for the Daily Beast and said,

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last January, I got into a fight with Andrew Dice Clay.

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All right, I'm already interested.

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Right.

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Last January, I got a fight with Dice at a

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stand up comedy club in Naples, Florida. The details of

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the altercation are unimportant, but at one point Clay threatened

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me with violence and said, I'm going to show you

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who I really am. Said in his welcome Back Cutter

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brooklyn Nes, I was like, I know who you are.

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You used to be a popular comedian. Love it. Andrew

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was booked to do the Early show me the Late.

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Although I was never a fan. I decided to arrive

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at the club early to watch the second half of

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a set, thinking maybe I'd gotten them all wrong and

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the bullying jerk face he played on stage was just

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an act. Turns out no, he really is a bullying

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jerk face. Worse, his act sucked. It was unfocused, unfunny,

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and ended with him performing the same profane nursery Rhymes

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had been doing for thirty years. Lest you think of

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just being a petty bitch, which I definitely am. I'm

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doing so in service of a larger point. Right seeing

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Michael Ian Black, there's another bullying, a jerk face out there,

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repeating the same stick he's been doing for years, Like Clay.

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A lot of people think he's a misogynistic jerk. Like Clay,

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he wears the same stupid costume he's had for decades.

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Like Clay, his actors grown stale, and his crowd size

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is depleted, and like Clay, he seems angry as hell

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about it. Who's he talking about? Donald Trump? I'm not

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here for the politics of this. This is Jenny Max speaking.

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I'm here for the comedy of it. And Michael leean

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black comedian, says, I was surprised to realize that Trump

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is essentially just another road comic trotting out all his

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tired bits from yesteryear. Jerry Seinfeld once said in the

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documentary Comedian that even if you're famous, the audience won't

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want to give you a few minutes grace before they

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turn on you if you're not funny. Trump recently said, hello, Montana,

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I've been all over your state. Everything's two hours. When

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are we going to be there? Two hours? Sir, two hours,

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Michael ian Black writes, says an observation, it's mundane as

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a joke, it's non existent, but the audience love him

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and they eat it up, despite the fact that he's

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no longer running against Joe Biden. Trump cannelp but pull

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the audience about which nickname for the president. They prefer

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Sleepy Joe or crook at Joe. It's the equivalent of

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a comedian doing a Michael Jackson joke. I always thought

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the comparisons between Trump and stand up comedians were insulting

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to comedians. A comedian works at their craft, honing jokes,

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cutting fat, trying to create a coherent and satisfying hour,

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material that entertains the audience and at times might even

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make them think. Trumps none of the discipline, none of

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the thoughtfulness, none of the material. We have a word

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for comics like that hacks. Andrew dice Clay is now

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a hack, so increasingly is Donald Trump. Samuel letters to

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Michael ian Black. Now there must be a theme. And

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speaking of hacks, the Daily Beast has the headline Hannah

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Einbinder is sick and tired of hack comedians. Both these

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beasts from the Daily Beast. Hannah was on the Last

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Laugh podcast. She said, I think my stand up persona

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was kind of born out of aspiration. This persona is

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everything that I could ever want to be. People often

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say that doing stand up is brave, and I disagree.

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I think it's desperate. I needed to do it because

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they felt bad all the time, and I was like,

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maybe this will fix it. Now, Thank God, I feel

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much better being myself and in my life that stand

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up is just additive and not a survival mechanism. Now

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that her A Special has come and gone, Hannah says,

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I'm very, very proud of it. But you know, some

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of those jokes have been doing for years and years

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and every night on stage. So while I love the

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material and I'm proud of it, I'm never going to

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say those words again. And I'm so fine with it.

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There's no greater feeling for me as a stand up

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comedian than feeling excited about a new chunk, new section,

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new line. Than newness is what makes feel love for

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the art form. They then discussed Jerry Seinfeld's comments about

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the extreme left running comedy. It's ridiculous. You just have

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to be smart when marginalized groups have heard every joke

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under the sun at their expense. It's not that they

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can't tell jokes, it's that they're sick and tired of

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hearing the hack. If you will, we're done in crap.

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That's easy and low hanging fruit. I get to speak

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to my experience of being queer and being a woman

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and being Jewish. I actually I don't have any problem

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with jokes at my expense, with the expense of any

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groups I may belong to, if the joke is smart,

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I really don't. I think everybody, especially people from marginalized groups,

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have to laugh to keep from crying and have to

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laugh at themselves, and we do. We're just asking for

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better material. And I think a lot of stand up

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comedians are really hardened in their perspective. There's an inherent

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personality trait of a being like, this is what I think,

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and everybody pays to listen to me say what I think.

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So I'm the arbiter of what's what. So they don't

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want to be told they're wrong, and they don't want

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to have to waver and change when their work is

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built around having a staunch perspective on something. When you

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call someone out on something and they get defensive. It

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just shows sort of a lack of evolution people who

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self reflect and go, I wonder if they're right, maybe

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I'm wrong. I can learn from that. That's actually more

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impressive to me. Johnny Mack, you never talk about Matt Riife.

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I know, all right. Cracked said, you got to hand

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it to Matt Rife. Only a few years ago he

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was self funding YouTube specials. Riife said, people kept checking

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you see if I had an only fans page, and

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I was getting tweets all the time being asked about it.

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That's when the adult theme platform exploded, and I thought

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that if I named the special OnlyFans, it would be

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a number one Google. Krack says, for the record, a

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peerce Matt Riife does have an only fans page. His

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last post earned him more than ninety one dollars in tips.

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A go fundme campaign raised thirty thousand dollars for the

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twenty twenty one special despite only forty people attending the taping.

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Only Fans now boasts thirteen million views on YouTube. Riife says,

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I have a very dark sense you that it's not

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going to be for everybody, but millions of people love

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that special. Including the tens of thousands of people I

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ran that set by in preparation for that special. It

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helped me find an audience that's going to be with

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me for a longer period of time. The only thing

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I regret for my last special was not putting in

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any crowd work. I didn't want to do any of

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that because crowd work was what because I've become known for,

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which is fantastic, but it can also pigeonhole you. His

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current special is all crowd work. What I love about

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crowd work is it doesn't burn anything. It's new for

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every single show. It's exciting for me, and I take

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great pride in that because so many comedians don't switch

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up their set at all. Jim Gaffigan tweeted the question

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is there a twelve step program for gardening? Only half joking.

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Jim then shared this clip. It's a little long and

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not all that funny, and he's showing some vegetables on

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what appears to be his kitchen counter. Let's listen to

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Jim Gaffigan for a minute. Don't hit skip. You got

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to sit through this.

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I did, Hey, how are you hey?

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Jim Gaffigan here, and I wanted to just check in.

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I love gardening. It's very rewarding. I mean it's it's

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you know, but the harvest, like this is just bananas.

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I mean it's not bananas. That would be great. I

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would like bananas. But let me just show you some

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of what I got here. So like, look, I like

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banana peppers, but like, has anyone I mean, no, one's

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that much squash. I've never even seen someone eat this,

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you know. I guess you could make those nasty noodles

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green peppers. I've made chapska salad three times and my

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family threatened to kick me out of the house. But

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the eggplants, who's ever? I don't know if grocery stores

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have these many eggplants. And then tomatoes. You know, by

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the way, none of my tomatoes look like tomatoes. They

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look like someone beat up a tomato.

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From the BBC. Telling hilarious or embarrassing stories from your

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personal life is something many stand up comedians do. What

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about turning your periods into a laughing matter. That's what

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Bella Humphries has done for her show at Fringe. After

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being diagnosed with pre menstrual dysphoric disorder PMDD. Symptoms of

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the condition can include extreme mood swings, depression, and anxiety.

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One of Bella's jokes has already been named among the

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festival's best. She says sharing her experiences of PMDD on

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stage has been very empowering because she's been able to

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find the funny and some dark times. It's very personal.

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It's very honest, a bit rot times, but still very funny,

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I think, and I've been told that by lots of

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other people. All Right, the joke in question, I'm sure

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she tells it better. There are times that I feel

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so low I think the only way out is to

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get in my car and drive as fast as a

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canon into a tree. But I'd never be able to

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go through with it because I'm a feminist. I wouldn't

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want that legacy for female drivers. Charter All reviewed a

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few shows at the Fringe. Let's take a look Rose

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Matta Fayo's on and On and On. They gave four

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stars out of five. The story of her involuntary singletom

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is so much more than a catalog of ex boyfriends

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and bad dates. Instead, it's a more personal look at

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her place in the universe, what drives her and why

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she hasn't coupled up taking in some astute observations about

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the wider world rolled along the way. She has an

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arm's length relationship with self analysis, adopting a silly voice

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when she mentions healing herself as she's not really at

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ease with such concepts. We learn of her first encounters

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with posh people they are not native to her New

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Zealand homeland, the dumpster Fire thoughts she's committed to her

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iPhone notes app, and how googling and incognito mode reveals

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your true self. She fears for the state of the

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self absorbed gen Z and bashist Taylor Swift fans for

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being basic. Lewis Katz's show is called Bountiful. Chortle gave

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it three stares out of five. Obviously an intelligent guy,

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lewis Katz's fringe debut is a pushback against dumbing down,

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primarily in the reduction of every complex issue to a

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US versus them binary We're the good guys, they're the Nazis,

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with the boundary conveniently movable. Essentially, Bountyful is a plea

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for more nuance, at least just the basic acknowledgment that

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life is not so black and white. That's true of

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his own stand up, which often makes smart connections to

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produce a rewarding punch lines, but is just as likely

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to feature a low brow penis joke. And there's no

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surprise in which land better with audiences embracing gags with

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the least complexity, so underlining his central complaints, love it.

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He has no time for the shortcuts of winning fans

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by posting crowd work clips, being offensive for getting angry

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over some fake trivial issue. That said, he does become

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arranged by the semi colon. He thinks it's unworthy of

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its prime place on the keyboard. He expresses in a

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rant hilarious for its overreaction. I'm looking here. Yeah, it's

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right next to the L, isn't it? And the full

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colon is the shift. Yeah, that does seem weird. Counter

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in two of thinking yields the best rewards, such as

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his bid on the one sex act where consent makes

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it worse, A routine that started with what the other

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Lewis in comedy got up to. Other close to the

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edge of materials, such as jokes about his wife's weight,

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have a trickier passage. Sounds like a fun show. That's

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your comedy news for today. If you enjoy the program,

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lot of traction there. High threads, friends on threads. I'm

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at Daily Comedy News. Isn't that nice? On Twitter, I'm

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still at dcnpod because the person who has the handle

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I would want tweeted once eight billion years ago, and

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good luck getting anyone Twitter to respond to you. See

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you tomorrow.