Feb. 23, 2026

Mike and Mac - Meeting David Letterman, and is Dave up to something????

Mike and Mac - Meeting David Letterman, and is Dave up to something????

Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast pops in. The guys open by reacting to the Olympic hockey final, with Mike congratulating the U.S. teams and describing how big the game was in Canada, including early-morning watch parties on the West Coast,...

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Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast pops in.

The guys open by reacting to the Olympic hockey final, with Mike congratulating the U.S. teams and describing how big the game was in Canada, including early-morning watch parties on the West Coast, memories of the 2010 “golden goal,” and the emotional tribute involving Johnny Gaudreau’s jersey and children. They also discuss a Nor’easter impacting the U.S. Northeast, comparing it to past storms and noting school closures and safety restrictions.

The main focus is Mike’s trip to Vancouver for Just For Laughs where he met David Letterman at the Queen Elizabeth Theatre stage door. Mike describes the advice to meet heroes with zero expectations, Letterman’s quick wisecracks with fans, and how he got a selfie and a signed cue card. He recounts Letterman’s comment when asked to perform a joke (“If I was any good at performing jokes, I’d still have a show”) and notes Letterman and team were late for rehearsal. Mike also unexpectedly met Paul Shaffer, who returned later for selfies and conversation, including a reference to “Mr. Humidity.”

John floats a theory that Letterman is up to something.  Going to Vancouver AND having Shaffer there doesn't make sense.

00:23 Olympic Hockey Reactions
01:02 Nor'easter Explained
03:06 How Big Was the Game
07:21 Hockey Culture and Drama
09:37 Join the USA Pitch

10:30 Meeting Letterman Setup
11:56 Advice on Meeting Heroes
16:08 Fans and Parasocial Media
21:14 Why the Show Wasn't Recorded
25:32 Stage Door Arrival Details
29:19 Selfie and Cue Card Signed
33:31 Surprise Paul Shaffer Encounter
35:40 Mr Humidity Deep Cut
36:49 Why Zach Was Picked
37:14 Curated Show Breakdown
40:43 Dave Opens With Canada
45:46 O Canada With Paul

47:00 Why JFL Vancouver
49:35 Festival Blueprint Theory
52:32 Ed Sullivan Conspiracy
56:26 Which Dave Shows Up
01:04:36 Zach Dead Mom Bit
01:10:41 Paul Closes With Reigning Men
01:12:37 Festival Small Room Magic
01:14:06 Final Thanks And Wrap

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Callaroga Shark Media.

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From the hockey capital of the world, the United States

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of America. I'm Johnny Mack. Joining us from Canada is

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Mike Chisholm, host of the Letterman podcast. Mike, Anything New,

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What's going on?

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I can't dispute what you just said. Congratulations to the

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American hockey Olympic Hockey teams, both the men and the

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women's for that matter. One of the greatest games of

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all time that I've ever I've just I, uh wow,

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what a game that was yesterday.

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I'm doing good all things considered.

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Considering my boys, we thought that we were going to

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get gold, but ran into a hot goalie and it

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turns out an American team.

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Had had so much heart.

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I just I was astounded at the heart that the

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US hockey team had. Congratulations the Hockey capital of the world.

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Will have to accept that until the World Cup at least.

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But other than that, I'm I'm doing very very well.

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It's good to see you. I would like, if possible,

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for you to compare to me, someone who lives on

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the West Coast. Whatever we hear of something called a nor'easter.

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Over the years, we have seen various effects, especially in

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my view, Letterman having his show either audience free or

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postponed because of it. Compare this nor'easter that you guys

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are going through to ones of the past.

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Sure, so so much to unpack there. First of all,

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I want to point out the difference between Americans and Canadians.

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I went out of my way to get my USA jersey.

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For those of you listening on audio, you don't see it,

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but Mike does. So I have my USA jersey on,

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which of course I wear every day, and you know

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I come on here to raz you and you just

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are very gracious and congratulate the winners. So there's that.

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As for the nor'easters, that is a term I never

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heard until the mid nineties when I worked at WOR

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Radio in New York, and then all of a sudden

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there was a nor'easter. It just seems to be one

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of those things that like a duret sho, like I

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never heard of derecho until like ten years ago. This

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one we probably got just I'm a little Inland. Maybe

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the coast was harder hit as we record on Monday

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morning Inland we got kind of the same amount of

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snow a month ago. People were talking about the equivalent

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of Category two hurricane winds. I saw a watch tweet

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about twenty foot waves off the coast of Long Island,

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So maybe a little further east it's bad. But here

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up in the hills, it's just another winter snowstorm, a

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big one. It was up to my knees. But you know,

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I'm sure others also get snow. It's not the biggest

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deal in.

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The world, okay, but a snow day for the kids.

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Kids are staying home today.

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Yeah, all the schools are closed in New York City.

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The mayor didn't even make them do virtual He gave

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them an old fashioned snow day. Nice, but you know,

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you're not going anywhere. You got to dig your cars out,

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and there are safety restrictions in place. You're not supposed

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to go anywhere. There's nowhere to go even if you

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get out. So it's just kind of a it's a

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snow day, good.

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Excuse to get some more podcasting done.

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Exactly. So, I want to ask you about hockey a

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side fil service, yes, sir, so stereotypes aside. How big

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a deal was that game? Is the nation watching? Are

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you guys crushed or you know, what's the what's the

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feeling there.

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I have friends who are certainly crushed who I spoke

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to throughout the day yesterday that were you know, their

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whole day was was well, and it's because of the

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way this day started.

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So I'm on the West coast.

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So the game was five am, and I mean, we

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had restaurants that were open, ticketed events, things like that

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that were so so there was activity definitely happening at.

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Five in the morning.

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I got up and just watched it in my house

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and then was you know, through social media, you know,

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and text messages going back and forth through friends.

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This is a gigantic, gigantic thing up here.

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We winded back to twenty ten when we when we

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host didn't now that at that time the Olympics were

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in Vancouver, but the gold medal game, the men's hockey

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gold medal game, Sidney Crosey, what we call what's known

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in Canada up here as the Golden Goal, just you know, pandemonium, pandemonium,

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and I'm certain that would have happened yesterday as well,

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but you know, it didn't go that way, and so

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you had a lot of people. I went to get

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my wife a coffee at around eight in the morning

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and driving by the Starbucks there was.

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A long, sullen line going through that drive through.

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There were a lot of people at eight in the

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morning that were that were, you know, punched in the gut,

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and it was it was a big deal. But I mean,

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at the end of the day, most people that I know,

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when you look at how the Americans finished, and it

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was it was an unbelievable Johnny Goudreau. I don't know

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if you're how big of a hockey fan you are,

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but Johnny Gudrou, who had played for the Calgary Flames,

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Johnny Hockey, we loved him up here. That's the thing

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about Canadians is that that when an American comes up here,

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I think of the Toronto Maple Leafs captain by Austin Matthews.

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You know, unbelievable, unbelievable talent. When an American comes up

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here and in his place for one of our teams,

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typically they're very, very embraced, and Johnny Hockey was certainly that.

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When the game ended, before the team picture was taken

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on the ice, players went and got Johnny Gudrou, who

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who tragically passed away far, far, far too soon. They

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went and grabbed his jersey, brought it out and then

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his kids, his two kids, one of whom had.

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Their I believe it was his first birthday for.

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Johnny Junior yesterday, and so they brought them on the

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ice to have the picture taken with them, and at

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that point, I'm just like, Okay, the hockey guds are

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at play here. The Canadians played the best possible game

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we could play and it was ours to lose. I mean,

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the chances so so so I think most folks, most

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of my hockey loving friends all kind of accept that

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as to as it was our game to lose and

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we the Americans were so resilient, and so yeah, it was.

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It was. It's a huge thing. It's a huge, huge,

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huge thing up here.

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But at the same time, all it does is build

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fire for the World Cup, and I were already talking

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about that. So I think we had the perfect team.

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I don't think there's gonna be any second guessing. I

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think that it was just one of those things where

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we ran into a hot goalie and a team that

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was leading with their heart, and absolutely the heart won

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that day.

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So that's the way I see it.

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I don't want to make it sound like it's nothing

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down here. Going into the game. It was a big

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deal the famous nineteen eighty Olympic hockey team and the

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movie Miracle that comes up in popular culture all the time.

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You might know, maybe three weeks and somebody will bring

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up that game. So it's not like it's bigger than

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if say, America made a run in the World Cup.

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And that might be different with the World Cup being

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in the three countries this year, yep, But you know,

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if if the Americans had made a run in the

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World Cup four years ago, I still think the hockey

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is a bigger deal because nineteen eighty always gets dusted off,

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and now we've got new folk heroes and Jack Hughes's

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and a couple of teeth and getting back out there

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and happening to be the one scoring the goal. I

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mean that's movie stuff, right, Oh.

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Yeah, oh yeah, it was.

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It was Uh, like I said, the hockey guys were

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at play, and I love that. I love the drama

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of sport and and and sometimes the things that come

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out of it and and I mean, you can't it's funny.

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I had uh.

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I remember people were talking about our first two games

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to get to the gold medal game, and you know

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they're come from behind. You know, over time for the

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for the one game, and and and people were were

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scared and like, oh no, Canada is not dominating. I

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just look at them and go, it doesn't matter if

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Canada just dominates.

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You can't have that. You have to have the chase.

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You have to have the drama, you have to have

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the the back and forth. You know, I don't want

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us to be a dominant I want us to win.

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Of course it's our game, but man, it's got to have.

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Like I think about the Canada Cup eighty seven, you know,

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you know, Gretzky Lemieux on the same team and playing

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the Soviets. It just I mean, and again you go

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back to the maraklon Ice again playing the Soviets. Isn't

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it fun that we have gotten a chance to see

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the Soviets kind of rise and fall. And now it's

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Canada and the US that are that are those two

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dominant teams, and you got your European teams that are

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trying to crack into that. And I just I love

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the hockey culture when it comes to that. I thought

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the Olympics were wonderful this year and seeing the Americans

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take it. Both of the men and the women was

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a sight to be seen. And again tip of the

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cap back in twenty ten. It's one of my favorite

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Letterman clips and it's not available anymore.

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I remembered it.

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I remembered it because it was such a wonderful night,

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the night after the golden goal. So this is be

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The golden goal was scored on a Sunday Olympics end

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and then Monday night you go and watch Letterman and

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he did a desk piece after the monolog and he

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sat down and he said, hey, everybody watched the hockey game,

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and everyone a cheering and all that sort of stuff,

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and he he kind of leans into the cameraon he goes,

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you know, I was watching the game and as it's going,

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and as it's going, and as it's going, he looks

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into the cameraon he goes, I wanted the Canadians to win.

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And I just really appreciated that because you know, we're

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on our home ice and all that, and it was

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just this the fervor was unbelievable and I appreciated that,

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and and and I could appreciate the sentiment especially at

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like I say, once, once I saw the US win yesterday.

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So but yeah, it was it's it's been a it's

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been a it's been a pretty crazy week, John, I've

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had a pretty bonker's week this week.

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Well we'll get to that. Just before we do. I

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have a note here. The President asked me to remind

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you we do have an offer for you to join

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the United States of America, and I stay with me. Huh,

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that would solve your problem because you would then be

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part of the greatest hockey playing nation in the world.

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You would be winners, and to be fair, you would

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immediately have the best state flag. I mean that would

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easily be the of the fifty one, the best state flag.

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So you guys might want to consider our offer and

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join us, and then you could say things like we

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haven't won the Stanley Cup since twenty twenty five, we

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are gold medal winners in the Olympics, and it would

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solve a lot of your problems. So just consider that,

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all right.

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Well, it's something to go workshop, and I think you

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see if they can iron out a potential thing there.

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when we saw him in Vancouver.

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Let's get let's get to the reason we are together today.

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They say, don't meet your heroes, and you made your

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way over to Vancouver and there was one David Letterman

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and you met him because I know that, because I

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saw a picture of you and David Letterman. What happened?

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How did that go? Was he a jerk? Was he

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like you have a podcast about me, loser? Or was

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he super cool? Tell us about David Letterman in real life?

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It was amazing. It was an amazing experience. I'll talk

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about the don't meet your heroes like it was cool.

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It was one of those world colliding kind of moments.

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I love when worlds collide, like when the things that

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This one here is a little bit more nostalgic.

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I used to go to Vancouver, so I live in

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a place called Colonna. Colonna is about four hours east

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of a drive and a mountain range. You gotta drive

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over a mountain range to get to Vancouver. Since I

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was a child, I would go to Vancouver to go

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see concerts because every major act, for the most.

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Vancouver's is an amazing city, and most artists who do

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come through are just struck by its beauty right away

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because it's surrounded by mountains and water and it's just

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this beautiful place. And I would go to see my

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favorite bands play, and there's there's a couple of venues

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in particular that I would go see them play, and

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I would go and hang out by the stage door

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so I could meet some of my favorite acts as

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they would either arrive or you know, sometimes I would

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go see the sound checks and that was fun. But

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I'd remember when I was maybe nineteen or twenty, I

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think I was going out to see Faith No More.

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door behind the Commodore Ballroom, and I met this old

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guy and I then he was an old guy. He

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was probably about forty five, okay, but I was nineteen

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and to that, to me, that was an old guy.

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waiting to meet Faith No More. And there's this old

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guy that was there as well, and I mean he

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started telling his story. So there's a lot of downtime

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when you do this, and and he was started telling.

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Us these stories. He's telling us the story.

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But when you two showed up when you know, in

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seventy nine, and he met them when they were going

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up before they went up for their show, and and

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and different different bands that he met, and and and

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he gave me a piece of advice that I'm forever

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grateful for.

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your heroes.

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Well no, he said, meet your heroes, just make sure

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you have zero expectation whatsoever when you meet them, Just zero,

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because what if you meet.

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fight with their wife or their husband or whatever. What

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if you just met them after, you know, something something

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major happening.

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they're they're in a different spot. And if they're your hero,

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chances are this part here, I've kind of refined over

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the years, this part here, like, you know, if they're

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if you've got notoriety, chances are they get him of

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a stressful life and they may be able to make time,

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they may not. But either way, just enjoy the experience

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because you just got something that most of the people

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that are going to be in there watching that show

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that night didn't get, and so I carried that with me.

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Now with Dave, those kid gloves have an extra kid

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glove on top of each of them, because he's known.

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He's got this personality that is unique, I think, misunderstood personally.

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I you know, people call a shaff famously, you know,

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call them an a hole on on on on national television.

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think it's a It's just a different, unique personality. And

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when you have somebody with that much talent, guess what,

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they may have some quirks in their personality, you know.

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So so, But that being said, those of us who

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were there and met him that day, you know, not

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even a week ago, we all knew the score. There

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were no autograph hounds out there other than us who

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just would love to get something signed. The small group

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of people that were there there were fans of my show,

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which was very very interesting. We were all decked out

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in letterman stuff, and so I think because of that

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he decided to stop and take some time and spend

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it with us. It was a fantastic experience. He had

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a wise crack For every single one of us who

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who said something to him, immediately he had a wise

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crack back, which delighted us all. And yeah, it was

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it was a very very positive experience. So that's what

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we did. We went to the stage door. But it

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wasn't going to the stage door to see a you know,

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a band that I'm kind of into at the moment.

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It was to see my childhood hero. And so merging

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the world's colliding of those two moments was unbelievable.

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That's super awesome. So he was just walking out from

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the stage to the town car or whatever, and that's

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it the other way.

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So so we show up at the stage door and

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you know, we're sitting there talking and it was cool

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because I got a chance to get some of my

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you know, nervous energy whatever you want to call it out.

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Because the guys when I got there, they were like

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stoked to see me. And so they start asking me

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all these questions about stuff about staffers, about you know,

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stuff that I talked about on the Letterman podcast, and

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they wanted to talk to me about stuff that I.

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Don't say on the show.

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And and and there are things that are kind of

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in that little neutral zone of here's the stuff I

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say on the show, here's the stuff that's in the

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circle of trust for all of these staffers and these

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people that I know that I would never say out loud.

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here that is probably okay to talk about, but I

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wouldn't talk about it necessarily on the show.

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So a lot of that stuff came out.

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I want to unpack all that, because you know, we're

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not on any kind of clock and we can get

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to Dave I'm fascinated by. So I've been in media

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for thirty something years, so I'm a little more used

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to this than I think you are. Of running into

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Letterman podcast fans, and one of the things I learned

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in talk radio in the nineties and I've talked to people,

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is you mentioned your cat Fluffy one time, and seven

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years later you run into a fan and they go,

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hou's Fluffy the cat doing? And You're like, how do

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you know the name of my cat? And it's because

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one time, at six fourteen in the morning on a

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blizzard Monday, you mentioned Fluffy the cat, and your fans

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create these parasocial relationships with you, and they they think

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they know you, so they know Mike from the Letterman podcast,

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who I assume is a shade of the real person,

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just like I often talk about how Johnny Mack is

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an exaggerated version of john that's all real. I don't

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like Adam Sandler comedies, but I don't rent and rave

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about Adam Sandler comedies being an example of that. So

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I find that really interesting. You also alluded to and

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I've tried to explain this to folks over the years.

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The people who get access don't talk about it. It's

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kind of like the people who were actually getting laid

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didn't need to tell you they were. And it's like

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you can just go about your business and have stories

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and then because you know how to role people trust you.

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Like I've talked about sidebar. So this is the thing

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I find in my own life that if I just

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talk about my own life, I wind up name dropping.

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And I'm not trying to show off. I'm just talking

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about my life. My wife and I went on a

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long drive on Friday and we were listening to Bruno Mars,

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and factually I have met Bruno Mars and he was

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very cool, and we just talked about that, and I

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was just reflect on my own life that I've been

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fortunate and I've been able to do things. I met

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Bruno Mars. I met him for two minutes once and

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he was super cool. But I've met Bruno Mars and

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most people haven't met Bruno Mars, and you just alluded

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to that. Yes, you know so in my own life.

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The example I usually use is I worked with Stephen

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van Zant from the E Street Band for maybe five

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years before I said the word Springsteen. But then our

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relationship was I was just John that produced the show,

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not Springsteen fan. Who's gonna askt even for tickets someday. Yes,

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you know, maybe by us mosis you pick up that

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I speak the language or I know what's going on.

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But I was in the role of I'm here to

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produce your show, mister van Zant, let's let's work on

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this today, not oh my god, I've seen you forty

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five times and I watched his friend hasn't all that?

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So your instincts are correct. There are things we talk about.

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There are the things that we might talk about. There

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are things that we never talk about, and especially things

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that are clearly off the clock. You know. So back

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to the celebrities. If you're David Letterman, you probably just

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want to walk the fifteen feet and get inside and

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get your head into the show. But here are these

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people who love you, and you've got to turn it

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on for a couple of minutes and you have to

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be there for them because and we're all human. If

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Dave or van zandt to Bruno Mars has a bad

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day that one time you met them, Oh so and

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so was a jerk. I don't like so and so,

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and it can ruin it. So for the celebrity, they've

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got to be on all the time. Some of them

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choose not to and don't care. Some of them are

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really really good at it, and you'll walk away going wow,

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I feel like I'm David Letterman's best friend. He knew

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most so much about me. So I just find that

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all interesting as you found yourself in those waters with

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people who listen to you, because we do this right,

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and it's like, all right, you know, my guy in

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on the guy in a basement doing a podcast, it's

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a Letterman podcast. I don't know who actually listens. Well, people

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actually listen, and fans of yours and that's all interesting, right.

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It was, uh, it was, it was fascinating. And and

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the good news with me is that I'm me just

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with the volume turned up. But for the most part,

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I'm pretty high energy. I'm I'm I'm like in real life,

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you meet me, and and if you get me excited

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about something, the enthusiasm just can't help but come out.

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I've got the I've got a boylike enthusiasm that just

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pops out. So that part there is super easy. Now,

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if I had just had a fight with my wife again,

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that that's that's you know, the situational part of it,

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I might not be. But that day, because everybody was

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sort of on the same page and everybody had a

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singular focus. We were all little kids and and and

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so they start asking me questions, and most of the

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questions are like, hey, like like, let's talk about what's

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Rupert really like. So I'm like, all right, well, let's

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get the let's get the FaceTime out. Let's FaceTime Rupert

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and and you know, and to them, they're like, oh

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my god, like they just their heads exploded. So I

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didn't need to even really like, I'll go I'll give

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you an example of I'll give you an example of

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what you just said, and and something they asked me

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and they said, okay, so are.

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They going to record this?

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Is it going to come out? Is it going to

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come out? And I said no, and they said, well

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why not. I said, here's the thing. Dave has a

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show on Netflix. It's called My Next Guest needs no introduction.

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It is, as far as Netflix goes, a very prestigious

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show for their brand. It's one of their most prestigious shows.

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Netflix views David Letterman as one of their signature stars,

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and he is. He absolutely is. And the show has

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a very distinct flavor. Over the seven or eight years

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or whatever they've been doing them, they have really, really,

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you know, it's got an identity of its own. And

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when Dave does something like this at one of the

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comedy festivals where he interviews somebody or has a conversation

458
00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.079
with somebody on stage, it is similar to My Next Guest.

459
00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:58.119
And if they were to record that and put it

460
00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:03.440
out anywhere, that would diminish the star power or the

461
00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:08.480
prestige of the uniqueness of what Dave is to Netflix,

462
00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:11.160
and that wouldn't be a good thing, especially when you

463
00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:13.880
consider Dave's got a staff and producers and people and

464
00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:18.240
a team where their livelihoods depend on that show and

465
00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:20.240
if it gets diminished, well that's not a good thing

466
00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:23.839
for anybody. And so you know, they completely understood that

467
00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.799
when I said them, great, I'm not telling him where

468
00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.640
I got that information from. I'm not telling them who

469
00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.599
if anybody specifically told me that or if so. There's

470
00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:34.200
an example of sometimes you can let information out without

471
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.279
saying necessarily where it came from and how you know,

472
00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:38.400
and all that sort of stuff. And so I had

473
00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:40.359
a few little moments like that, and then there was

474
00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:42.640
a couple of ones where somebody said, ask me a question.

475
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.039
I'm just like, I don't know, you know, and I

476
00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:47.279
just I can't answer that.

477
00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:51.720
It's also because you are expert in the Letterman verse.

478
00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:55.519
You just know stuff by osmosis or you just pick

479
00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:59.680
up on things. No one has told me anything that

480
00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:03.440
you said. No one has told me anything about a

481
00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.680
Netflix deal or whatever. But it makes total sense. Netflix

482
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.079
has a comedy festival, JFL is a different comedy festival. Yes,

483
00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:13.839
of course they don't want Dave to step on the

484
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:16.960
Netflix brand with something really similar. That all makes sense,

485
00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:20.200
But I have no inside information there. But just top

486
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:23.079
of mine, because we're on this corner. I'm picking up

487
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:26.799
that Stephen Colbert keeps going out of his way to

488
00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:29.880
say he thanks Letterman, he thanks CBS for the eleven years.

489
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:35.079
And I keep noticing he keeps phrasing it a certain way,

490
00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:40.920
and my spidery sense is just going, huh, that seems deliberate.

491
00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.319
And I don't know why, but it seems deliberate. No

492
00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:46.720
one has told me that, but I've just been doing

493
00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.319
this long enough and I notice things.

494
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:54.480
Yeah, I've noticed that too. I'm grateful for the eleven

495
00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:57.119
years that I've had on CBS or something like that. Yeah,

496
00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:00.920
he's very and I mean I would think that it like,

497
00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:05.440
what a unique way for his show. It's gonna be

498
00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:08.319
interesting to look back, you know, five years from now,

499
00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:11.160
to look back on this time and how how Colbert

500
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.079
show ends. I mean, you think about how Conan ended

501
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.119
his Tonight show run. You think about how and then

502
00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.160
then his uh, his TBS run for that matter. You

503
00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:24.079
think about how Dave of course left uh CBS and

504
00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:27.640
and and it's just gonna be interesting to see what

505
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:31.720
Stephen does after this and reading the tea leaves that

506
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:33.799
you're reading right now, how the tea actually tastes on

507
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:35.480
the other side one when it served to us. It's

508
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:37.160
gonna be very very interesting to see how that goes.

509
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:42.920
But with all of the polarization that's happening, Dave sure

510
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:46.279
got out when he did at the right time, because

511
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:48.880
I look at the reaction he got in Vancouver, and

512
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.079
I mean, the guy is an icon and Colbert will

513
00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:53.279
be an icon as well. We're just gonna see how

514
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.720
that shapes out. But yeah, I I uh. When you

515
00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:59.920
talk about seeing the seeing things that are going on, U,

516
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.640
that's exactly right. And sometimes it is common sense, but

517
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.799
sometimes you also have things confirmed that with a little

518
00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:07.759
bit more specificy.

519
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.160
So more with Mike Chisholm from the Letterman Podcast after this,

520
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.079
So I love talking to you. We're a half hour

521
00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.480
in the topic is you met David Letterman? And so

522
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.119
far half hour in we've gotten as far as you're

523
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:28.759
standing there and David Letterman's about to get out of

524
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.240
a car. That's as far as we've gotten into the story.

525
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:31.920
Half an hour in.

526
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:33.480
Yeah, it's.

527
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:35.079
So.

528
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:38.039
What happened was the stage door for the Queen Elizabeth,

529
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.440
the Queen of his Elizabeth Theater is a beautiful, beautiful Theater,

530
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.519
you know, and it's about three almost three thousand people.

531
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:52.599
And you know, Dave did thirty seconds on named after

532
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:56.240
Queen Elizabeth after her legendary run of whatever it was.

533
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.680
In the seventies, and that's why the theater was named

534
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:01.440
after her. And it was just, you know, he.

535
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:06.599
Made a an amazing Stanley Park joke, just such a

536
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:09.400
such a wonderful, wonderful night that was completely curated for

537
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.359
the audience that was in attendance. But the Queen Elizabeth

538
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:14.519
Theater has a main entrance and then there's a stage door.

539
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:16.960
We were by the stage door, and what happened was

540
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:20.119
it was actually Dave's entourage. In the entourage is two people,

541
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.680
his assistant and UH and and his guy.

542
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.359
They showed up and they showed up in front of Dave.

543
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:28.519
I was around the corner.

544
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:34.599
So the other four fans, two of them of our

545
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:36.359
show or three of them actually of our show.

546
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:38.720
UH, were there and I was around the corner.

547
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:41.640
Wait, is Heave a limo guy or a town car guy?

548
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.519
No, it was an it was a it was a

549
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:47.759
white tahoe. Wasn't a black tahoe or anything like that.

550
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.400
Zach came in a black one Dave came in a

551
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.720
white one but shows up and Park's partner.

552
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.880
That alone is interesting to me because I have this

553
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.440
whole story I won't tell her right now of uh

554
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.799
looking a white limousine for Jamie Fox at the super

555
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.240
Bowl one time and he wouldn't ride in a white limousine.

556
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.160
The short version of this story is white limos are

557
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:10.920
for proms, and we had a black limousine out of

558
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:13.200
our hat and it was very, very stressful. But it'll

559
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:14.640
take me half an hour tell that story, all right,

560
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:18.920
So it's a white tahoe. Dave is okay with all

561
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.599
sorts of palettes for his vehicles. That's good to know.

562
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:23.200
A R.

563
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.480
Yeah, it was spit dropting, no, no, no, please.

564
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.319
And anytime it was it was uh.

565
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:32.319
It wasn't even like it didn't even look like there

566
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.160
was no pomp and circumstance with it whatsoever.

567
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:35.240
It was.

568
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:40.000
It was not I would even say, nondescript. And uh. So,

569
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.359
So I was around the corner doing something and one

570
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:46.880
of the guys texted me get here now. I'm like, oh, okay,

571
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.400
So I go back around and uh and as I'm

572
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:54.519
walking towards I'm seeing Mary Barkley who you know. Dave's

573
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.279
Dave's right hand. She's on the Barber Gain show. Everyone

574
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:01.079
loves Everybody loves Mary. She's awesome. I see her, she

575
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.119
is just going into the venue. I think we caught eyes,

576
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.519
and I was just kind of like, I'm terrified of Mary.

577
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.240
I've said that from the very beginning. Every time I've

578
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:09.839
seen her in an event where she's there, I just

579
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:11.480
kind of look at her. I'm like, I'm terrified of you.

580
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.119
It's just I don't know if it's a bit, but

581
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.240
I really am terrified of her. She's the gatekeeper, she's

582
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.799
she's you know. I don't want to piss Mary off.

583
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:20.039
Ever.

584
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.319
I see her, I see Dave starting to talk to

585
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:25.880
the guys, and she goes into the venue. I'm like, okay,

586
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.200
and then I see Dave's guy as I'm walking over.

587
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.640
The second was maybe the third of the of the

588
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.200
group that were there had their moment with Dave, and

589
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.880
I just kind of sidle up to Dave's guy and

590
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:39.599
I kind of, you know, let him know that I'm

591
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:45.400
there and I'm just watching Dave blow these guys' minds.

592
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.799
And it was cool because I didn't get starstruck at all.

593
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.839
I had a care package, a little care package for

594
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:53.359
him that I didn't end up giving to him, but

595
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:59.000
it had like funny things that had picture of Bruno Jerusi,

596
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.240
who the beachcomber. I had that Dave was on Bruno

597
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:09.480
Jerusy's Celebrity Chefs. That was his first television appearance once

598
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.680
he became a comedian, and it happened to be in Vancouver.

599
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:12.559
So I had a picture to.

600
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.279
That some Canadian snacks and things like that that I

601
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.480
would give to him if the opportunity arose. So I'm

602
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:24.160
sitting there just that with that patiently, and he finishes

603
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.359
with I guess the fourth guy and I and I

604
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.720
just said, Dave man, I please take a selfie. And

605
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.119
this is where people said to me, did you tell

606
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:34.359
him who you were? Did he recognize you?

607
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:34.880
And all of that.

608
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.000
Never in a million years would I identify myself as

609
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.519
to who I was. If if if if it happened, great,

610
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.039
if he recognized me, great, I know the deal.

611
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.440
There's no way I'm gonna do that.

612
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:51.880
Dave, I find wasn't really looking up each other in

613
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.039
the eyes or anything like that because they were late

614
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:59.880
for rehearsal. Dave's other producer Walter, who runs the let

615
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.720
YouTube channel. He'd shown up about twenty minutes earlier and

616
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.079
get a big hug, good to see you, and he's like,

617
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.400
I got to get in I'm late for rehearsal, and.

618
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:08.480
We're like, okay, no problem.

619
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.759
And Dave didn't show up for another twenty minutes after that,

620
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.160
so you know, they needed to get in there. And

621
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:16.200
so I think Dave just wanted to give us our moment,

622
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.440
but he needed to get in there because he had

623
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.319
stuff to do. The show was much more complex than

624
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.680
anybody ever realized it was going to be. There was

625
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:24.920
a need for a rehearsal and a blocking, there's no

626
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.319
question about that. But he did take that time for us.

627
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.279
So when he came over to me that the selfie

628
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.319
was great, he took us out. We made sure it

629
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:33.799
was a good picture, which was which was.

630
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:34.720
I love that.

631
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.200
And then I got him to sign a que card.

632
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.119
I've got David lit him an autographs. There's one que

633
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.240
card in particular that I have that I just love.

634
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:47.720
It's actually a CBS joke and and and so he

635
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.759
signed it, and as he signed it, I was I

636
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.000
was hoping that maybe, just maybe we could get him

637
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:54.960
to perform the joke, and I've got.

638
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:55.319
It right here.

639
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.720
I know it's it's yours' audio mind's video though, So

640
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.160
this is from I believe it's ninety six. It might

641
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.799
have been the very first year of Survivor, and this

642
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.200
is the first show after the Survivor finale.

643
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:13.480
Welcome my Name is Dave.

644
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:15.440
So Dave comes out, the monologue is about to start,

645
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:20.000
Welcome my Name is Dave, CBS's only true Survivor, which

646
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.200
to me, with the benefit of hindsight, is ironic as

647
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.240
all get out. Dave the only guy that has that

648
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.240
called his own shot at CBS.

649
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.440
He started when he started, and he ended when he ended.

650
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.200
While Survivor is over, now forty million Americans can now

651
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.880
get back into the habit of not watching CBS, which

652
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:42.039
to me is funny beyond all measure. There's Dave's signature

653
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.599
on the bottom there. By the way, if somebody is

654
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:45.920
ever going to look to get an autograph from one

655
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.440
of their favorite celebrities, make sure you test the pen,

656
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:50.920
even if it's a brand new pen. Get it rolling here.

657
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.960
Dave made a comment about how crappy of a pen

658
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.039
it was. It was brand new, but I hadn't tested it,

659
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.559
yet on the back of the card the head monologu

660
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.640
writer at the time gave Abelson, he signed it for

661
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:02.200
me and stuff. So this is a very special piece

662
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.160
of cardboard to me. And I said to Dave, I said, Dave,

663
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.920
I would love maybe if you could perform the joke,

664
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.720
and he goes, if I was any good at performing jokes,

665
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.400
I'd still have a show, which again was worth the

666
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.519
price of admission rate there for me. But I was

667
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:22.039
wearing a Barbara Gain shirt and so Dave's guy, as

668
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.000
we're going through this, points at my barber Gain' shirt

669
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.160
and he says, hey, Dave, look look like he tried

670
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.640
to give me. And of course Dave's guy knew what

671
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.640
knw I was, and so he's pointing at my barber

672
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.680
Gain shirt. And I appreciate that very, very very much,

673
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.440
because if there was more time or in another, you know,

674
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.960
slightly different tick of the universal time clock, Dave might

675
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.519
have looked at it and it might have created another

676
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.720
opportunity to then have that. But he was late for rehearsal,

677
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:53.720
so it was like no, no, no, you gotta go. There

678
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.839
you go, guys, and we're all just flabbergasted. And it

679
00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.640
blew our minds. It blew our minds. It was an

680
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:03.839
amazing encounter before an even more amazing show.

681
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.119
So so that was that was That was a very

682
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:06.759
very very.

683
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.839
Special moment for these guys, especially like most people who

684
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.960
love David Letterman don't ever think they're going to have

685
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.519
an encounter with David Letterman, and they all did. It

686
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.480
was a positive experience. I think you saw the video

687
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:19.960
of all of us afterwards. We were all giddy as schoolboys.

688
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.400
It was just a it was a phenomenal experience. So yeah,

689
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.799
and then the show, well, this one other thing happened.

690
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.319
One of thing happened. But anyways, keep going ask that

691
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:31.839
question and I'll tell you the other thing that happened.

692
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.599
You also have a selfie with our good friend Paul Shaeffer.

693
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:39.480
Okay, so Dave goes he goes in, and we're all

694
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.200
standing there and we're all letting the moment kind of breathe,

695
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.000
but also like, what the hell just happened, and we

696
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.559
were just kind of decompressing, and we had all this crazy,

697
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.119
univerous energy that was going out, Like I think there

698
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.720
was a little bit of dancing at one point. It

699
00:33:53.799 --> 00:34:00.319
was just lovely, and then another very shiny, you.

700
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.400
Know, you can tell it's kind of a high end rental.

701
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:05.880
But again, nondescript minivan shows up and we're all guy like,

702
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:07.599
all right, let's go meet Zach.

703
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:08.920
And we're just like.

704
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.320
Okay, And there's a you know, maybe one hundred feet

705
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:15.119
or fifty feet between the where the vehicle stops in

706
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.239
the stage door, and we're like okay, and out pops

707
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.199
Paul Shaffer and all of us just kind of looked

708
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.119
at each other and we're like what because he was

709
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.599
not advertised for the show, makes a lot of sense

710
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.639
that Paul might be there because they're up here in Canada.

711
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.320
But it's West Coast Canada, you know, that ain't where

712
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:33.199
Paul resides.

713
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.159
Paul's yeah, you know, Canada is a big country. It's

714
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.599
it's pretty big. But yeah, I was I when I

715
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:42.559
saw the selfie, I was like, I don't think they

716
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.519
announced Schaeffer and you know, well he's Canadian, so of

717
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.719
course he would. But like like I said, like, you know,

718
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:52.320
I'm not showing up in La today, right.

719
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:54.519
It it was. It was.

720
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.199
It was a coda, and a surprising one, to say

721
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.440
the least for all of us, Completely unexpected and we're like, okay,

722
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.079
so what's better than meeting Dave. Let's meet Dave and Paul.

723
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.159
And Paul gets out of the van and he looks

724
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.079
and he goes, guys, guys, guys, I'm really late, but

725
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:10.599
I can't.

726
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:11.360
I can't. I gotta go.

727
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.760
I gotta get in there. And and he just we're

728
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.960
like okay. He goes after like all right, true to

729
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.840
his word. About forty minutes later, Paul comes out immediately

730
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.599
recognizes me, which I was so stoked about because I

731
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.320
met Paul a few times and he's been on the

732
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.480
show and whatnot, so I've been it a few times.

733
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.159
So he which delighted me to no end.

734
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.079
Again, the inner child in me is just alive and

735
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.039
well at this point, gives us some gives us all

736
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.000
the glad hand and selfies and all that stuff.

737
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.079
One of the guys, who's.

738
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.519
A really really really old school late night fan, asks

739
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.559
Paul about a song that he did for a bit

740
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.760
called Mister Humidity. Paul'saying, I think, so, I think I

741
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.400
think I kind of remember it the guy sang it.

742
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.360
He goes, yeah, I think I remember it, and uh

743
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.119
and and that was fun and and and we had

744
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.639
a we had we had a good time with him,

745
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.039
and then and he's like, Okay, I gotta go. He left,

746
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.599
and then we messaged, like Don Giller to find out

747
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.280
about mister Humidity, and we found out all the details

748
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.239
about that, and he messaged us back and told us

749
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.400
about the dates and times and the lyrics of the

750
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:15.239
song and so that was fun. But yeah, we had

751
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:16.639
no idea Paul was going to be there. Now I

752
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.840
had heard that the original thought was that Marty Short

753
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.119
was going to be the guest.

754
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:24.639
And it makes sense.

755
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.800
The Canadiana of it all makes sense, and having Paul

756
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.760
there and whatnot. Marty Short has now been announced that

757
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.000
he is going to be one of two guests that

758
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.760
Dave will speak to at the Netflix as a Joke

759
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.800
Comedy festival in May down in La So one would

760
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.360
think that Paul is of course going to be a

761
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.639
part of that because he and Marty have this connection

762
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.320
and whatnot. So it makes sense if that was the case.

763
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.400
I don't know for a fact that it's the case,

764
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:51.880
but I know that there were some people that were

765
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.559
scratching their heads before the show as to why Zach

766
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.760
Galifanakis was chosen. But during the show it became very

767
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.199
parent why it was Zach that was on stage with

768
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.599
Dave and I can go into that here. But at

769
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.199
the end of the day, seeing Paul there definitely threw

770
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.119
us through a loop. But when the show began, everything

771
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.360
at all kind of all the pieces kind of came together.

772
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:19.800
This was a very very well curated show. David Letterman

773
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.639
is seventy eight years old. He could have very easily

774
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.440
just come out, made a couple very surfacy jokes. Everybody

775
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.000
would have been so happy about that, brought Zach out,

776
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.119
had a meaningful conversation with him. He could probably do

777
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.320
that on autopilot, because you know, he's had him on

778
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.840
My Next Guest before and it was a very very

779
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:39.320
good episode.

780
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:44.119
I highly recommend it. But that wasn't this.

781
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.440
This was a very well put together show and a

782
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.920
very well curated show, and having Paul there is a

783
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:50.719
part of that curation.

784
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.000
Where does Paul live these days?

785
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:57.840
I think New York is where That's what I thought,

786
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.440
where he spends most of his time. I think that's

787
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:01.480
where he is most of the time.

788
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.920
Yeah, you know, just living my life as a New Yorker.

789
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:10.239
I was on Ninth Avenue at some point. I don't

790
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.639
know in the last forty years getting food, and so

791
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.840
was Paul Schaeffer. But as New Yorkers, that happens, and

792
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.280
New Yorkers tend to leave the celebs alone, and you know,

793
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:20.599
just you'd notice. So, yeah, this Paul Shaffer and you

794
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:22.679
just go about your business. So that's why I thought

795
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.079
he was from New York as well.

796
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:27.760
He plays a lot still, like like he and Will

797
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.280
Lee will do gigs down at the Bitter.

798
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.679
End with with OSINOI and and different musicians as well.

799
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:33.920
He plays a lot of gigs out there still.

800
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.079
And the night I saw him do that a few

801
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.760
years ago, you know, Paul's wife Kathy was there and

802
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:39.440
all that you could tell.

803
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:40.920
They just they came from home.

804
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:43.880
You know, she stayed there for the first show, she

805
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.800
went home and then and then Paul did the second

806
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.360
show as well. So yeah, I think I'm pretty sure

807
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:49.119
he spends most of his.

808
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:49.679
Time in New York.

809
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.199
And he also blew my mind. I guess I just

810
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.719
don't pay attention that David Letterman is seventy eight, which

811
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:59.000
is kind of sort of almost eighty. Yeah, boy, time

812
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:04.480
goes fast because he seems younger, whereas I'm running into

813
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:06.719
clips of the worst person who ever lived Jay Leno,

814
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.119
and Jay seems old at these Like Jay all of

815
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.679
a sudden got aged. His speaking voice has aged, He

816
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.320
looks old. I'm sure it's the stress with Mavis doesn't help,

817
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:23.199
but Jay has gotten old. Like I feel like I

818
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.000
could throw a suit on Dave and maybe ask him

819
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.760
to shave the beard, and he could fill in for

820
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.400
Colbert next week, and you would be like, yeah, this

821
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:36.480
makes sense. And I'm not one hundred percent sure I

822
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.400
could throw Jay Leno on the Tonight Show for a

823
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.559
week in twenty twenty six. I don't say that with

824
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.920
malice or anything. We're all getting older for everybody else.

825
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.159
The first thing I said to Mike before we hit record,

826
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:49.000
I jumped on the camera, looked at myself and said,

827
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:50.880
oh my god, I'm getting bald or whatever I said

828
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.920
about my own hairline. So you know, it's not a dig,

829
00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:00.119
it's just time passes. But yeah, I I didn't think

830
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.960
of Dave as somebody who's sort of almost eighty.

831
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:04.039
Yeah.

832
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:08.360
And and and for me thinking about that kind of

833
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.159
watching him on stage, I was in the second row.

834
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.440
And and and I no offense to Zach, but I

835
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:18.480
basically was watching Dave almost the entire time just to

836
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.679
see mannerisms and things like that. You talk about when

837
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:22.519
you know he might have to turn it on for

838
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:24.880
the fans or whatever. I think that I think that

839
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:29.480
you know, similar to when you know shortly after nine eleven,

840
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.119
within a couple of years after nine to eleven, Dave

841
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.440
stopped going to rehearsals and and and part of that

842
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:37.360
was energy conservation. When he came out on stage, he

843
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.079
was the Dave that we the energy was super high,

844
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.519
was super high. The way the show started was he

845
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.239
did his own intro, and his intro was hilarious. He

846
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:49.400
was off stage and he's like, ladies and gentlemen, welcome

847
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.320
to the Queen Elizabeth Theater. And then he starts talking

848
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:55.039
about the curling scandal that had been happening at the

849
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:57.679
Olympics with the Canadians with the double touch and things

850
00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:58.760
like that that were happening.

851
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.360
And Nice did not have a good week. I forgot,

852
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:06.679
why are you cheating at curly? What are you doing?

853
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.119
And it was more than once right the Swedes.

854
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:12.679
The Swedes were not happy with with the way that

855
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.599
the Canadians curled, and and and uh yeah, it was

856
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.639
it was oh man, and and and funny to hear

857
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.119
because it had just because we saw him on the Wednesday,

858
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.800
I think it was the Monday where where where that

859
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.280
all happened. So clearly he's he's he's uh, you know,

860
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.119
clearly his introduction for himself is a living document because

861
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:31.599
you know, let's throw in this, let's.

862
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:31.880
Throw in that.

863
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:35.880
And he comes out on stage and he any and

864
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:40.920
he starts. You know, when Walter Kim was there and

865
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.800
and and Walter was is the guy who runs all

866
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.679
of Dave's his his his curated content, his his late

867
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:49.800
night his late show stuff, the YouTube channel, all of

868
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.440
that stuff that's Walter's world. Walter runs all of that,

869
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.320
the Barber Gain show, you know, he films that and

870
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.719
and edits and puts it all up. So Walter was there,

871
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.440
and and as Dave comes out on stage, she's sitting

872
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.239
there talking about his history. And he would go through

873
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.400
his history and then Walter would put clips up, and

874
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.760
so we got clips of Dave. By the way, a

875
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.880
lot of people don't remember this or or have noted

876
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.159
this necessarily, but back in the day when Dave was

877
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.159
at the radio station, I believe it was in Muncie.

878
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:21.400
I don't know if it was at Muncie.

879
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.000
I just like saying Munsie, but he was there, and

880
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:25.280
it showed a picture of him and he had this

881
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.079
huge beard and now it was a hutter right beard.

882
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.119
He had no mustache, but he had a big beard

883
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.039
at that point and it was it was neat to

884
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:31.320
see that.

885
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:32.559
So they would show pictures of him.

886
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:36.519
Then they showed as he was building his They showed

887
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.960
the clip with him and Bruno Jerusy Canadian own beachcomber

888
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:40.760
Bruno Drewsy.

889
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:41.920
They showed clips of that.

890
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.639
They showed the Mary Tyler Moore clip, the famous clip

891
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.079
where where Dave and Michael Keaton are doing the singing

892
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:52.119
and dancing on stage, and it was fun. It looked

893
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.000
like Walter was messing with him a little bit because

894
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.280
the clip was on and then Dave's like, Okay, that's enough,

895
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.679
and they let the clip keep going and he's like, Walter, no,

896
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.000
like he's really to stop the clip.

897
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.079
They let the clip go all the way, showed.

898
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:10.599
Clip from my shows. Listeners just really quickly explain, please sorry.

899
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:14.119
After the Mary Tyler Moore show, Mary Tyler Moore at

900
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:17.639
a variety show on CBS, and the cast did include

901
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.280
Michael Keaton and a youngish David Letterman. And if you

902
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:25.239
want to see Dave dressed like a nerd doing typical

903
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.400
I guess that's early eighties variety show, singing and dancing,

904
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.760
picture the Brady Bunch Kids Variety Hour, and throw David

905
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.760
Letterman on that and you're close enough. Sorry I have

906
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.000
interrupted again, Mike.

907
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.320
No, please, do I do that all the time.

908
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:41.320
I assume people know what I'm talking about, which is

909
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.719
rarely the case. And so he uh, you know, went

910
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.159
through his history and hilarious as he did it. I mean,

911
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.199
he brought up the they brought up the Trump tweet

912
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.079
where you know, whatever happened to David Letterman, no talent,

913
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.679
no this or like you know, it's it's a kind

914
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.199
of worked like a badge of honor. But then he

915
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.679
he started talking about how much he loved loves Canada

916
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.079
and and and uh, I don't know. It was almost

917
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.960
like if there was a theme of the show was

918
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:16.239
acting as an emissary, you know, to say, hey, you know,

919
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.519
we acknowledge some of the stuff that's being said in

920
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:21.840
the greater narrative of the world right now, and what's

921
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.079
happening in the Canada US tensions and things like that,

922
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.719
and and and he really really did a great job

923
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.599
of playing on that, not in a way that the

924
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:33.960
current late night talk shows do, not to create more polarization.

925
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.280
Not to I mean, he poked.

926
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:40.639
Fun at at at Donald President Trump, of course, you know,

927
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:42.320
because of the tweets and some of the direct things

928
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.960
or whatever, But he didn't really it wasn't a it

929
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.440
wasn't a bashing or anything like that. It was just

930
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:51.320
more of a recognition of what was going on, and hey,

931
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:52.159
let's let's.

932
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:52.599
Make this better.

933
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.679
By the way, the ovation that Dave got I should

934
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.599
I really need to note that when he brought himself

935
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:04.480
out the place. To say the place went nuts is

936
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.679
not accurate. It was way more than that. And and

937
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.800
I'd never seen Dave in a space that big before.

938
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.079
I've seen him at the Rector Mantamon Theater and and

939
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.000
another theater in la And then of course he had

940
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.320
Sullivan Theater, you know, at Sullivant Theater four hundred seats,

941
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.360
five hundred seats. That's the most Manzban's least like the

942
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.199
other ones are intimate, they're smaller, but this place three

943
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:29.239
thousand seats, and the entire place erupted in a standing

944
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.280
ovation that would shake the foundation. It was, and it

945
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:37.960
was long, long enough that Dave got really uncomfortable. Okay,

946
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.199
like it was a long, long, long thing. Then he

947
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.440
went through what I just talked about, uh, you know,

948
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.960
roll at Walter and and and and and and the

949
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:48.280
video clips and whatnot, and then he brought Paul Shaffer

950
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.519
out on stage, and everybody went crazy for Paul Shaeffer

951
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.360
and uh as almost as crazy for Paul as Dave.

952
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:57.559
And Dave said here, this is a.

953
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.599
Song that I've I used to get Paul to play

954
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.880
every once in a while on the show. And he goes,

955
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.239
it's a song that I love and we're going to

956
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.519
sing it together right now, and a huge Canadian flag

957
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.880
comes from the rafters down and we sing Oh Canada,

958
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:13.519
and Paul leads us to sing o Canada with his

959
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.360
beautiful Steinway and Soun's grand piano that's on stage just

960
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.719
off to the left of the chairs that Dave and

961
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.800
Zach would occupy. So we sing O Canada together and

962
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.960
that was a lot of fun. So that was how

963
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:27.000
the show started. And this is probably twenty minutes before

964
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:31.280
Zach even comes out, So that alone the prep for that,

965
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.320
you know, the writing of it, the rewriting, the revisions

966
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:39.239
of it that would have taken a lot of effort

967
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.360
to do. That wasn't necessary because the place sold out

968
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:46.000
in four minutes. So they rose to the occasion to

969
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.280
give us something that was unique. And this is all

970
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.519
before Zach comes out. So it was a beautiful, beautiful

971
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.280
precursor to what was then about to happen.

972
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.239
Take one more break and we'll come back and talk

973
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:02.280
more with Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast. My mind

974
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.320
is now thinking more about this event, so let me

975
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.320
break this support several ways. We're just for laughs. We're

976
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:13.000
going to throw a comedy festival. It's not our big one.

977
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.920
Our big ones in Montreal, we have some international ones.

978
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.199
This is a bit of a newer one. Let's book

979
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.039
some comedians. Okay, So and so's touring. We're tight with

980
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.880
these agents, We're tight with these managers. These people are

981
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.079
friends of the festival and off and do the festivals.

982
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.199
Let's get some local people in. And then somebody said,

983
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:40.440
let's ask David Letterman like that just seems odd. I'll continue.

984
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:47.239
If you're David Letterman, Okay, yeah, I'm reasonably retired. Ish

985
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.159
if I need to scratch a creative itch. I'll just

986
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.000
go on the Barber Gain Show. If I'm I want

987
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:55.480
to comment on current events, I'll go on the Barber

988
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.360
Gain Show. Or I could, I guess, just go on

989
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.639
YouTube myself. I could give an interview with The New

990
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.559
York Times. If I feel like I need to be heard,

991
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.519
if I need to perform, I can go to Los

992
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.880
Angeles and the Netflix Comedy Festival, with whom I have

993
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:15.559
a relationship. So why is David Letterman at JFL Vancouver.

994
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.840
Even JFL Montreal would be a one hour flight in

995
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.480
and out and I'm back home for dinner. Why is

996
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:29.360
David Letterman going to Vancouver? And all Schaefer comes that

997
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.840
just this is I'm adding up two and two and

998
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:34.199
I'm getting seventeen here.

999
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.159
Well, and I mean, it's funny at seventy eight that

1000
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.320
this kind of of a path might reveal itself. But

1001
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.920
first off, JFL Vancouver, I believe this is ten years,

1002
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.679
like I remember just before the pandemic, and I'm talking

1003
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:54.480
maybe weeks before the pandemic. In twenty twenty, I went

1004
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:56.199
and saw Bill Burr for the just for laughs. So

1005
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.079
this is back in twenty twenty, I saw Burrs one

1006
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.000
of the headliners. But I hear where you're coming from.

1007
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:00.880
Yeah, it's it's.

1008
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.599
And there was a at some point, just for laughs,

1009
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.159
teamed up with an existing Vancouver comedy festival. I believe

1010
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:13.360
the actual festival is longer than something titled JFL Vancouver,

1011
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.960
because exactly I remember this being around when I was

1012
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:17.840
that serious and some of my serious stories are twenty

1013
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:23.320
years old now. But the this is adding up to

1014
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:28.119
as a one off. Dave's in Vancouver and Paul shows

1015
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:33.760
up and yeah, okay, Paul's Canadian. Fine. Uh, just seems

1016
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:34.920
like something is afoot.

1017
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.840
I think it's a blueprint personally, and I don't necessarily

1018
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.679
have any information to back that up other than to

1019
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:47.400
say to me where Dave has carved himself out. You know,

1020
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.760
they kind of positioned him that he was headlining the festival,

1021
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.159
which is kind of neat, and I think I believe

1022
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.760
where are we here? I think tonight Jerry Seinfeld finishes

1023
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:59.639
the festival at the same theater Dave was at.

1024
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.519
I believe that's tonight. I believe that's happening.

1025
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.400
So there's probably some sort of connection there as well,

1026
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.239
because I believe they have some common people in their

1027
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:11.880
administrative teams that that that might have maybe made that happen.

1028
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.920
So that's one way you know you're gonna get Seinfeld. Well, hey,

1029
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.480
what if we also brought Dave? That might be part

1030
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:17.719
of it.

1031
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:18.119
I don't know.

1032
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.480
I'm not exactly certain about that. But the idea though,

1033
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.840
to have a comedy festival that's all stand ups is

1034
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.639
one thing, okay, But what if we included performance art?

1035
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.039
What if we included some podcasts? What if we included

1036
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.360
which which they did at JFL Vancouver this year.

1037
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.199
And then also, oh, here's a unique way.

1038
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.679
What if we brought Letterman in and he talked to

1039
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:43.719
Zach isn't necessarily known as as as a stand up,

1040
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:45.719
but certainly a performance artist. What if what if David

1041
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.320
Letterman came in and had a conversation with one of

1042
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.280
the top stand ups. He's been doing that for a

1043
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.039
few years here, He's been doing it on Netflix, but

1044
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.000
also on these little one off shows for other festivals

1045
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.480
and things like that. To me, that's a that's a

1046
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:04.000
bankable different face or a different event to put into

1047
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.239
a festival. Some of my favorite bands, they don't really

1048
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.360
tour anymore, but they will go to all the different

1049
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.639
festivals in Europe and all the different big festivals and

1050
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:17.199
things like that, it's an easier road to travel to me,

1051
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.039
if Dave did need to scratch this itch, which clearly

1052
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.320
he does, because he loved it. So you could tell

1053
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.400
he loved being up there. He loved that moment, just

1054
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.159
like he used to talk about, you know, my whole

1055
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.840
day is a terrible day except for the hour between

1056
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.880
five and six o'clock, and that is my you know,

1057
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.760
the favorite part of my day. He got a chance

1058
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:43.559
to experience that there. I think the idea of him

1059
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.880
doing this at other festivals or perhaps even going out

1060
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.320
and having an evening with you know, David Letterman and

1061
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.039
somebody in different cities, to me, that is something that

1062
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.559
he would have access to whenever he wanted to at

1063
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:57.480
this time in his life.

1064
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:00.760
And that's a that's a beautiful, beauty thing that he

1065
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:01.159
has that.

1066
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:06.159
Okay, I'm adding up too and two and I'm getting

1067
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.000
nine hundred and forty four. I want you to write

1068
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:12.719
this conspiracy theory down. Okay, uh huh. So you're David Letterman.

1069
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:14.880
Remember the Cone Intour? Yes, of course, you remember the

1070
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:19.480
Cone Intour. Remember the Cone Intour you, David, Yes, Dave

1071
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:24.320
does seem a little bothered by the news of the day.

1072
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:26.559
More often the key hit out for a while and

1073
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:30.760
he's a little commenty. Now, so let's put that out there.

1074
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:37.079
Mm hm. The Ed Sullivan Theater becomes vacant in June. Yeah, okay,

1075
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:42.880
but just put that there. Maybe you go to Vancouver

1076
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.800
because it's a three thousand seat theater, so it's even

1077
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.880
if jfl overpays him, it's not a oh my god,

1078
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.719
I got I can't turn this down. I'm playing Wembley

1079
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.559
Stadium typeay day. It's a three thousand seat theater. So

1080
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.719
even if you overpay the man, you still have to

1081
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.519
run a festival and it has to makes sense. So

1082
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:05.760
it's not about the money. It's about the performance. And

1083
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.639
if you workshop a show at the Netflix Festival in

1084
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:18.760
Los Angeles, you're being noticed. Maybe perhaps possibly maybe perhaps

1085
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.920
we're looking at some sort of theater run involving Paul Schaeffer,

1086
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:28.519
and there's going to be a theater available. And again

1087
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:31.239
I added up to and two and just got four thousand.

1088
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.679
But let's just write that down and maybe in August

1089
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.320
you and I can connect and be like, see, I

1090
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:40.519
almost had it right, except for the part with the datata.

1091
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:45.159
Yeah, Dave's former executive producer and one of my favorite

1092
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.320
people in the world. His name is Robert Morton Morty

1093
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.119
as he was known on the show. He came on

1094
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:52.519
my show, I don't know how long ago, six months maybe,

1095
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:53.639
and we.

1096
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:54.239
Talked about that.

1097
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.079
We talked about the Insullivan Theater and the idea was

1098
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.719
thrown out Netflix should buy the theater.

1099
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.119
Yeah, right, you think about what we forgot to verbalize

1100
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:03.800
that as part of my conspiracy theory, yes.

1101
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.400
Yeah, like what if they did that and what if

1102
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.119
there was an opportunity that once a month, once every

1103
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:10.840
three months. You think about Billy Joel, you know, playing

1104
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:12.920
Madison Square Garden once a month, you know, just to

1105
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.920
leave the house, go to MSG, play a show, go

1106
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.119
home there you go. Pretty pretty cut and dry, right,

1107
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.039
Imagine if they had that tool at their disposal where

1108
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:25.760
some of their performers could go and utilize that theater

1109
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:29.119
with this with its history, with now its technology. They

1110
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.400
upgraded that a lot of that place and like a

1111
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.400
year ago or a year and a half ago for

1112
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.199
the first time the audio room, there's a guy by

1113
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:39.719
the name of Harvey Goldberg who who is the the

1114
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.400
maestro of the musical performance there. How they blend live

1115
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:47.960
and produce music and create this amazing opportunity for live

1116
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.480
performance for artists. I mean, they spent a lot of

1117
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:54.199
money on that thing to upgrade that. The recording studio

1118
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:55.639
they have there in the and the and the mixing

1119
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.000
studio they have there a lot of money. So there's

1120
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.119
a ton of technology in that place as well. Well.

1121
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.320
Imagine if they had that for when they.

1122
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.880
Have some of their featured comics to do specials and

1123
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:09.239
and and to be able to use it as a

1124
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.960
utility tool for what Netflix is trying to build. To me,

1125
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.800
that's a it's it's it's a no brainer. But again

1126
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:18.159
I'm coming from a fan perspective saying that as well, right,

1127
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:20.400
being excited about the idea.

1128
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:23.400
But it all makes sense. You want to tell me? Saturday,

1129
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:27.559
September whatever, ten pm, Live from the Ed Sullivan Theater.

1130
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:31.679
My next guest is yep, Stephen Colbert, who we haven't

1131
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:37.960
heard from all summer. Yeah, that's Netflix's playbook. Again, I'm

1132
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.719
deep in the weeds. But why would David Letterman go

1133
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.400
to Vancouver? Whye I know who is lovely but he's

1134
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:46.440
David Letterman. Why?

1135
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:51.800
Yeah, yeah, I uh, I couldn't agree more. There's some

1136
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:55.559
stuff I'll tell you offline as well that the parts

1137
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:57.840
of this that I can't I can't say here, but

1138
00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:58.480
I will.

1139
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:01.719
I do not believe this is a one off.

1140
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.679
And I'll say that and and and and I'm pretty

1141
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.280
sure if it's not a one off, there are gonna

1142
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.119
be other places that that that have the opportunity, uh

1143
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.079
to to experience what I got to experience last Wednesday.

1144
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.119
And and I certainly hope that that is the case.

1145
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:19.920
And anybody out there who does enjoy David Letterman, if

1146
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:21.880
you have the chance to go see him, it is

1147
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.960
worth it. It will be money well spent. Highly recommend it.

1148
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:31.519
So, yeah, which Letterman am I getting? Am I getting watermelon? Letterman?

1149
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:36.000
Am I getting? Throwing cards? Am I getting Elder Statesman Dave? Or?

1150
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.559
Is it depend on the minute? What Dave am I getting?

1151
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:40.519
I think it depends on the guest. I think the

1152
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:44.039
Dave that came out and and and and you know,

1153
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.519
but pre show, the pre show Dave, you're getting somebody

1154
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.199
who really cares about what you're gonna see to make

1155
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.639
you laugh, to to enjoy. Is he gonna throw macaroni

1156
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:54.599
and cheese in the audience, like the Bare Naked Ladies

1157
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:57.440
do sometimes when they perform in Canada. No, not necessarily.

1158
00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.320
I don't think you're gonna see that zany part. I

1159
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:03.400
think you'll see reference to it perhaps, But then it

1160
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:04.400
depends on the guest.

1161
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.480
And the guest that we had here was Zach Galvinakis.

1162
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.760
And let me tell.

1163
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.519
You, Johnny, it was a There were a couple of

1164
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.960
moments there that were Andy Kaufman. There was an Andy

1165
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:20.519
Kaufman moment during this show. Now it's not watermelons being

1166
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:25.159
thrown off a tower, but it was that same manipulation

1167
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:28.920
of feelings that isn't just we're gonna make you laugh. Now,

1168
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:30.360
we might touch you a little bit, then we're gonna

1169
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.079
make you laugh and make you laugh more. No, it was,

1170
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.039
it was. It was more than that. So I would

1171
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:36.719
say the answer to that question is it depends on

1172
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:42.360
the guest, because I think Dave can as as as

1173
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.639
in my opinion, the greatest broadcaster of all time. Dave

1174
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.119
can be Barbara Walters and ask the tough questions and

1175
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.239
and and and or not even tough questions, but maybe

1176
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.519
the heartfelt questions and and and go for a narrative.

1177
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.159
He's got that skill. But he's also got the skill

1178
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:01.119
where he can shoot the shot the bull about comedy,

1179
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.280
where comedy comes from, where these premises come from, and

1180
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.039
and and and and like he like I saw him

1181
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:08.920
do with Nate Bargassi a few years ago, or he

1182
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.440
can do what he did with Zach, which which which

1183
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.880
is yes, ask about some of the things going on

1184
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:14.440
with Zach.

1185
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:16.199
Why was Zach chosen?

1186
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:20.800
He lives you know, in Vancouver now or just off Vancouver,

1187
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.239
one of the islands out there, with his Canadian wife,

1188
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.800
and and and has kind of he talked about how

1189
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.440
he did not want to be in la anymore. He

1190
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:32.800
did not like the way he does not like the

1191
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:34.840
way technology is driving things, He does not like the

1192
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.719
way the show business is and and wanted to get

1193
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.719
away from that, despite still wanting to be a performer.

1194
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:44.199
He just couldn't live in it anymore. And now we're

1195
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.320
all in the audience going, oh my goodness, oh my goodness.

1196
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.360
And he starts to you know, articulate on some very

1197
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.239
very serious things, but then would go on a dime

1198
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:56.360
to zany and then on another dime to something completely

1199
00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:00.639
Andy K. Kaufman esque. So really I think it's your question.

1200
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:01.719
Is it depends?

1201
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:04.719
Okay, I've got a quick Kaufman story that I have

1202
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:08.119
to get out of my system, please. So the New

1203
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:11.199
York Comedy Festival had started the Kaufman Awards and Christian

1204
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:12.760
Shall had won it, and that's how I got to

1205
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.880
know Christian Kristen a little bit. So I got to

1206
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:20.119
know Michael Kaufman, Andy's brother, and we started to talk

1207
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.920
about what we could do to honor whatever term you

1208
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.639
want to use Andy Kaufman. At Serious we used to

1209
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.320
have these things called town halls where you would book

1210
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:32.119
a celebrity and have some super fans come up. So

1211
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.079
David Letterman's coming up and twelve people like you would

1212
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.360
kill to be in that room, and we would broadcast

1213
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:42.800
these things. So Michael Kaufman agreed we would do Andy

1214
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:45.719
Kaufman town Hall. He was totally in on this. I

1215
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.039
couldn't convince my boss that this was a great idea,

1216
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:50.639
and I'm sad we didn't do this. So the idea

1217
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:52.840
was we were going to announce the Kaufviman estate was

1218
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.519
willing to announce that on you know, whatever day, Andy

1219
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:57.880
Kaufman town Hall was going to happen. And Andy was

1220
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.559
going to come, and then we were going to have

1221
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:04.440
the event and invite people up, and Andy would run

1222
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.239
late and continue to run late, and continue to run late,

1223
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:08.880
et cetera, et cetera. And we were going to have

1224
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.880
Kristin Shaw kill time for us, and we never really

1225
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.159
got to how that would all resolve itself. But he

1226
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:15.920
was willing to put out a press release with a

1227
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.519
quote from Andy, et cetera. And this but the other thing.

1228
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:23.639
As I'm sitting there having lunch with him, since he's

1229
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:27.639
Andy's brother and many years have gone by, I start

1230
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:31.119
going down in my brain. I'm like, wait, maybe this

1231
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.719
is Andy Kaufman and he's doing a bit to me.

1232
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:36.920
Maybe there is no Michael, and I'm in my own

1233
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.280
head getting crazy with this thing. But we never actually

1234
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.320
did it. Around that same time, I got to know

1235
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.400
Bob Zmuda a little bit who was in the Kaufman cycles,

1236
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:51.320
and some people think talking some people think Bob would

1237
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:56.360
sometimes play the role of Tony Clifton, but but Zmuda

1238
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:59.239
was kind enough to book Tony Clifton to come up

1239
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:03.800
to Sirius the next day, and mister Clifton showed up

1240
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:06.639
in the lobby and didn't have any id that said

1241
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.119
Tony Clifton, so security would not let Tony Clifton in

1242
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:14.159
the building. And Tony Clifton, being Tony, threw a tantrum

1243
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:16.559
and stormed off and never came in. And then Bob

1244
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:18.800
called me later and told me what would happen and

1245
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:23.000
out come Clifton had never shown up. Fun stuff.

1246
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:25.360
Tony Clifton is one of my dream guests for The

1247
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:29.760
Letterman Podcast. He would be the ultimate because I love

1248
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.039
featuring people who have been on the show on our

1249
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:33.639
show and I want, I hope that that grows into

1250
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:34.159
that more.

1251
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:38.719
And Tony Clifton has always been He's.

1252
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:41.079
In my top five guests to be on the Letterman

1253
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:44.039
Podcast for for reasons just like that. The idea that

1254
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:45.719
he's down on the lobby and can't get up is

1255
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:48.159
just hysterical to me.

1256
01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:51.000
And I feel bad for whoever.

1257
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.079
Not just the security guards because that's what they're meant

1258
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:54.480
to do, but the people who are behind, like the

1259
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:57.719
counter the administration people that day. I just I feel

1260
01:01:57.719 --> 01:01:59.400
so bad for them. They had no idea what was

1261
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.360
coming for them that day that they came to work.

1262
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:03.079
That is just a beautiful, beautiful story.

1263
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:03.559
I love that.

1264
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:06.519
So let me just for again my listeners who may

1265
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:08.559
be less hip to this. So back in the day

1266
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:14.880
Andy Kaufman, there were people who believed that sometimes Andy

1267
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:18.920
Kaufman would perform a character known as Tony Clifton, who

1268
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:22.400
was this big, loud guy who thought he had invented

1269
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.480
show business. Now, of course Andy Kaufman is not Tony Clifton.

1270
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:30.159
Tony Clifton is a completely distinct, separate person. But talk

1271
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:34.599
shows would book Tony Clifton thinking they had booked Andy Kaufman.

1272
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:36.559
But of course Andy Kaufman and Tony Clifton are two

1273
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:39.199
different people, so they would have Tony Clifton on the

1274
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.000
show thinking they booked Kaufman. However, there are some who

1275
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:47.039
believe that sometimes they would book Tony Clifton and Bob's

1276
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:50.679
Muda would dress up as Tony Clifton, and the talk

1277
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:53.719
show would think they had booked Andy Kaufman, but they

1278
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:58.800
had actually booked Bob's Muda pretending to be Tony Clifton. Winkwig, nudge, nudge,

1279
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:02.199
Know what I mean, say no more? Love it so great?

1280
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:03.559
I love that stuff.

1281
01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:05.639
And and and Zach did one of these to Dave,

1282
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:08.039
and I want to like I'm I don't like destroying.

1283
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:11.280
I don't like revealing bits, right, you know I I don't.

1284
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:12.599
I don't ever want to do that.

1285
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:14.960
You know you?

1286
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.679
You you got me credentialed to go see a couple

1287
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:21.480
of a couple of comics at JFL outside of Dave

1288
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:26.519
red Richardson comes to mind. I want to I want

1289
01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:30.320
to celebrate, like three of the bits that he did there.

1290
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:31.920
There was a nine to eleven bit, there was a

1291
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:33.440
canceling bit, and there was something else.

1292
01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:36.039
I want to celebrate them and articulate them with people.

1293
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:39.079
But he is clearly working on them for another special,

1294
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:41.360
so I'm not going to go into how he made

1295
01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:43.280
it clever and even.

1296
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.599
Innocent, even though he did this one.

1297
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.119
However, I believe is A is a one off, and

1298
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:50.000
I think that I'm okay to talk about what Zach

1299
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:51.639
did on stage here because there's a little bit of

1300
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:55.159
a codea to it afterwards that I just adore. One

1301
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.039
of the things that famously about Dave out there is

1302
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.679
that he doesn't like to be surprised. Early on, they

1303
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:08.079
had to create in in Dave's run, they had to create, uh,

1304
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.440
they had to create a sort of a I don't know,

1305
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:15.559
a culture where instead of surprising Dave with something and

1306
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:18.400
and and and enjoying his wit, his off the cuff

1307
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:22.159
wit which is second to none, you let Dave in

1308
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:24.719
on it. But it's okay because he knows he'll react

1309
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:26.719
to it the way that he would have if he

1310
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:29.119
were surprised. He's he's got the ability to do that

1311
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:36.800
because he just gets irket being surprised. Well, I believe

1312
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:39.960
Zach did that to Dave on stage, and and and

1313
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:41.639
and I don't believe that he was ready for it.

1314
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.280
So they were going about having a lovely conversation about

1315
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:47.840
life and what they uh.

1316
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:49.239
You know, Zach was amazing.

1317
01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:50.960
He at one point hands one hundred dollars bill to

1318
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:52.679
somebody in the audience and it's a real one because

1319
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:54.280
it's he handed to the guy right in front of me.

1320
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:57.320
You know. He he was messing with.

1321
01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.559
The audience talking about how he married a Canadian girl.

1322
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.320
We all clapped, and then Zach's like looks at all

1323
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:04.360
of us and he goes, yeah, but she's from Calgary.

1324
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:06.599
And the entire audience turned.

1325
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:08.679
On him for a second because the rivalry between the

1326
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:10.800
Vancouver Canucks and the Calgary Flames, and it was just

1327
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.000
like like playing with us, right. He called the leader

1328
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:17.840
of the of the Conservative Party here in Canada's aames

1329
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.760
Pierre Paulia. He called them Pierre poutine. You know, just

1330
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:23.360
did did a great job showing us.

1331
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:23.639
Who he was.

1332
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:25.760
They were going back and forth, and then they started

1333
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:27.480
settling down and getting serious a little bit, and they

1334
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.400
started talking about their personal lives and and and and

1335
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:32.559
it came out, does your wife like when you like,

1336
01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.000
do you do bits in regular life, like with like,

1337
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:37.519
you know, servers at a restaurant or people or whatever.

1338
01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:39.280
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, does your wife like that? No,

1339
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:42.079
my wife thinks I'm very unfunny. Oh yeah, mine too.

1340
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:44.119
Both of them going on about how they have these

1341
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.960
goofy personalities and how their wives do not think that

1342
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:48.760
they're funny. They do not like when they do bits,

1343
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:51.079
And Zach starts telling a story about his mom, and

1344
01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:52.840
he starts saying, growing up, it was like that in

1345
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:55.119
Dave's like Guests for Me as well, you know, you know,

1346
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:57.280
kind of the round peg in a square hole kind

1347
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.840
of scenario. And Zach was talking about out how he

1348
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:04.639
would love to make his mom laugh, and she had

1349
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.360
this guffaw, like it was an involuntary kind of a

1350
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.440
thing that would happen when he said the right thing

1351
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:13.159
in the right combination of things. But the problem is

1352
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:15.000
is most of the time it would be inappropriate. And

1353
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.960
so Zach got this weird back and forth because he

1354
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.440
would get the guffaw, but then he would get in

1355
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:24.960
trouble and it was just like okay, good, but then bad.

1356
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:25.920
And and that happened a lot.

1357
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:27.599
And he brought up a couple of stories about that,

1358
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:33.400
and then he told one and it was just so powerful,

1359
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:35.159
like he was talking about how he got the guffa

1360
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:37.039
and and he goes in this one here and I

1361
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:38.199
got the gaffa from my mom.

1362
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:46.159
And he stops and he goes h and and and and.

1363
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:51.760
Just I just need and Johnny, I swear to God,

1364
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:55.360
A tear is coming out of his eye, like I'm there,

1365
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:57.800
I'm watching it and it's happening, and I'm looking at Dave,

1366
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:07.440
and Dave's entire energy changed and shifted and became extremely uncomfortable,

1367
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:12.000
like extremely because Zach galifan Akis is crying on stage

1368
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.400
right now, and Dave was unprepared. It was it was

1369
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:17.400
just a moment talking about comedy and suddenly and he

1370
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:19.880
like like literally I'm watching the tear fall down his face.

1371
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:22.599
And Dave, even though he's got the lapel mic on,

1372
01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:25.480
he says very softly, oh is this this is this

1373
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:29.239
is real? Like he's really really really softly, and zachly,

1374
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:30.079
I'm so sorry.

1375
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.159
I just I just lost my mom last month.

1376
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:37.599
And the entire audience just oh, like like the just

1377
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:40.639
all the breath went out of the room because it

1378
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.039
was just sotal and then you're the empathy for him

1379
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:46.119
was just you could feel the empathy for him, and

1380
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:47.519
it was just and.

1381
01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:51.760
Dave was like, oh, I and and he didn't know,

1382
01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:52.440
you know.

1383
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:54.360
He talked about how he watched the entire run of

1384
01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:56.079
Between Two Friends, and he watched The Hangover and he

1385
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:59.519
watched them these other things, and it was unprepared to

1386
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:03.360
know that Zach just lost his mom. And then Zach

1387
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:06.039
said a couple more things and it was like, and

1388
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:08.199
he goes, I was just kidding. I didn't really lose

1389
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:13.960
my mom last month. It was like what Dave included,

1390
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.960
And then a few sentences later he said, oh no, no, no,

1391
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:22.720
really no, my mom really is dead. And we were

1392
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:25.479
all just not knowing what to do with that, and

1393
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:31.560
Dave kept preferring he this is where I think it wasn't.

1394
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:35.039
That wasn't script. I'm ninety nine percent it wasn't script.

1395
01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:37.399
Dave wasn't in on it because he kept coming back

1396
01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:39.159
to it, and when he came back to it, he

1397
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:40.920
was doing it almost as grumpy Dave.

1398
01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:43.359
Oh yeah, it's as good. It's every bit as good

1399
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:44.560
as a dead mom bit.

1400
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:45.680
You know.

1401
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.079
He would say say things, but he called it back

1402
01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:52.000
maybe two or three times. So anyway, the code of

1403
01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:53.039
that story is.

1404
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.319
Apparently after the show, David and his team went out

1405
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:00.079
for dinner, not with Zach, but David is to his

1406
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.560
team went out for dinner, and for a good portion

1407
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.079
of that dinner, they were trying to figure out if

1408
01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:06.199
Zach Kalvinax's mom is dead or alive or not.

1409
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.720
And that, to me was just lovely.

1410
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:12.640
And I'm not the first person to put that out there.

1411
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.439
The Georgia Strait put it out there. I feel, okay,

1412
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.399
The Georgia Straits like an indie Vancouver, an indie Vancouver

1413
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.520
publication or newspaper, so they put it out there, so

1414
01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:24.039
I don't feel like I'm wrecking anything by putting it

1415
01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:26.399
out there. It was a phenomenal moment to be a

1416
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.239
part of And if Zach actually got one over on Dave.

1417
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:30.119
Good for him.

1418
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.600
And if he didn't, and Dave was in on it

1419
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:36.079
like he was when Jerry Lawler slapped Andy Kaufman back

1420
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:37.800
in the day on the show, Dave was in on that,

1421
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:43.039
you know, then even more power to Dave because he

1422
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:45.800
fooled everybody making us think that he didn't know about it.

1423
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:50.279
So that encapsulates the show really at the end of

1424
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.239
the day, without me destroying any of the other stuff

1425
01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:54.640
that they they said, that was my favorite moment of

1426
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:58.199
the show. It was just such a lovely experience. John,

1427
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.880
I can't even I can't even tell you. It was

1428
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:02.439
just such a such a lovely experience.

1429
01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:06.000
I'm so glad you got to meet him and you

1430
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:10.239
got to see a show which is great as well, and.

1431
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:11.119
A phenomenal show.

1432
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:17.920
Like there wasn't anybody who left there wishing that they

1433
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:21.840
they didn't come the Goodwill. It was just the energy

1434
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:25.119
afterwards as people were leaving. It was just it was

1435
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:28.680
a lovely, lovely experience. And I just highly recommend it

1436
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:30.159
if you see him, If you see if you're able

1437
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.319
to see Dave live.

1438
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.000
Go see him.

1439
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.279
If you have any affection for him whatsoever. You will

1440
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:38.760
regret not seeing him in years to come, you know,

1441
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:41.119
when the inevitable that happens to all of us happens.

1442
01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:43.119
If you have the opportunity to see him, go see him.

1443
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:45.600
What did Shaeffer do at the show?

1444
01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:46.479
Oh?

1445
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:48.680
Sorry, yeah, so this is the way to finish the show.

1446
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.079
And then I've got six minutes and then I've got

1447
01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:52.680
a bolt. So this is a perfect way. Thank you

1448
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:55.159
very very much for saying that. Oh my gosh, leading

1449
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:58.920
leading everybody in O Canada at the beginning. But then

1450
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:01.479
at the end, after they finished all of the footage

1451
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:02.960
they had at Zach because I mean the big screen

1452
01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:04.920
behind them, so they're showing clips in between two ferns.

1453
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:06.840
They're showing clips of the hangover. They're showing clips and

1454
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:09.880
talking about some of these things. Dave says, I have

1455
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:12.840
a wonderful way to end the show, and he and

1456
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:16.319
he dedicates it to Zach. And Paul comes out and

1457
01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:19.439
he starts playing on the piano and he plays it's

1458
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:28.199
raining men. Zach is killing himself, laughing like like this

1459
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:31.000
is what like like it almost felt like it was

1460
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.359
a bit of a surprise to Zach as to how

1461
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:34.960
they were going to finish the show, and Paul sings

1462
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.680
It's raining men as soon as the show, and it's

1463
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:39.960
a very high energy song, and so we're all Paul

1464
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.239
of course a writer of that in the Canadian Songwriters

1465
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:47.399
Hall of Fame for that song alone, I believe, and

1466
01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:49.920
so so so that's how they finished the show, which

1467
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:51.640
I thought was spectacular.

1468
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:52.199
It was.

1469
01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:55.920
It was quirky, but at the same time high energy

1470
01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:59.159
and fun, and people were singing along with it. And

1471
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:00.960
then they got up and they thanked everybody and they

1472
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:01.760
all kind of walked.

1473
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:02.319
Off stage and it was.

1474
01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:06.079
That was lovely, awesome good grats.

1475
01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:07.720
Yeah, thanks man, it was.

1476
01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:07.960
It was.

1477
01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:08.520
It was fantastic.

1478
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.039
And I just got to say, I adore our friendship,

1479
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:12.439
I adore our our, our kinship.

1480
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:14.359
I love your show. I love this show so so

1481
01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:14.800
so much.

1482
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:18.800
And I can't thank you enough for reaching out to

1483
01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:21.039
them and having them kind of take a chance on

1484
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.039
me to cover a couple of the other stand ups

1485
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:27.840
that were there. It was really really fun to do that,

1486
01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:29.640
So Johnny, thank you so much for giving me that

1487
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:31.880
opportunity to go out and do that as well. That

1488
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:36.840
was that was more trimmings on a beautiful beautiful, beautiful experience.

1489
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:40.760
No thanks for going, and I you know you're helping me.

1490
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.760
And also I think it's good for the listeners to

1491
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.720
hear you reacting to something I say all the time

1492
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:49.000
that when you go see a festival, go see the

1493
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:52.239
smaller shows and that's where the magic is. And you

1494
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:54.159
were in small rooms and you clearly enjoyed it. So

1495
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:55.960
that made me happy to see that you weren't like

1496
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:57.920
what did he sent me to? And you saw the

1497
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.600
magic of comedy festivals, yes, sir. And the difference, you know,

1498
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:03.840
seeing when you're in a small room for an open

1499
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:06.199
mic and you're seeing people kind of stumble their way forward.

1500
01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:08.359
That's one thing when you're in a small room for

1501
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.640
some people to see people who are not open micers.

1502
01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:14.840
They've clearly established who they are, their voice, their personality,

1503
01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:17.199
their character, if you want to look at it that way,

1504
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:21.119
and then you see them played to a small room.

1505
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.960
It's the same thing as watching your favorite season band.

1506
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.680
You watch Pearl Jam play to a room of four

1507
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:29.920
hundred people, that's a very special thing. Seeing Red Richardson,

1508
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:31.680
for example, he sold the room out, but it was

1509
01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:36.119
one hundred and thirty people. As a sellout phenomenal and

1510
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:40.960
intimate and beautiful. And Catherine Blandford, same room but only

1511
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.600
thirty two seats sold, and her playing with that the

1512
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.439
way that she did, because she isn't just an open

1513
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.479
micer that's oh it's another room of thirty two people. No,

1514
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.039
she is sharp as attack and she gets a chance

1515
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:54.239
to go play a small room and boy did she

1516
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:54.880
have fun with it.

1517
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.079
So yeah, those were both two very very good shows.

1518
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:00.000
Yeah, I'm telling my listeners Catherine Blandford learned that name.

1519
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:02.479
That's definitely somebody to keep it. I haven't seen Red,

1520
01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:04.880
so I'll take your word for it, but Catherine I've seen,

1521
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:06.560
and that's somebody to keep an eye on. All right,

1522
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:08.439
I'm gonna go shovel and you probably have a job

1523
01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:11.159
or something, so I'll let you go and we'll talk

1524
01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:11.560
some more.

1525
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:14.039
Thanks man, I appreciate you.

1526
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.000
You're just I love your friendship, I love your show,

1527
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:17.760
and thank you for being you buddy.

1528
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:20.399
Back at you, all right, talk to you soon.