May 8, 2026

Mulaney on Kimmel and Letterman, Ron Taylor Wins Funny AF, and Chappelle Talks Trans Jokes with Michelle Obama

Show Notes
Transcript

Johnny Mac recaps a busy comedy week: Jimmy Kimmel interviews John Mulaney, joking about Stephen Colbert leaving TV and Mulaney having lived in Kimmel’s guesthouse. Mulaney also appears on David Letterman’s This Better Be Funny, featuring Paul Shaffer (standing ovation), news of Letterman executive producing a Shaffer documentary, and Letterman’s career retrospective including a Richard Pryor compliment; Mulaney discusses family, projects, and praises Robbie Hoffman as a fearless original, while giving a noncommittal update on his Netflix talk show and calling the new Michael Jackson movie “stupid and bad.” Kevin Hart’s Netflix competition Funny AF crowns Detroit comic Ron Taylor, who wins a Netflix special titled Elevate. Dave Chappelle on Michelle Obama’s podcast defends comedy-room context for controversial jokes. The episode also covers Louis C.K. themes, Netflix festival strategy, “comedy stock market” picks, and highlights Netflix Is A Joke festival shows plus mystery around the Roast of Kevin Hart lineup.

00:21 Kimmel and Mulaney Bit
02:15 Letterman Show Recap
05:01 Robbie Hoffman Talk
06:36 Mulaney Talk Show Future
07:23 Funny AF Finals Winner
08:56 Nikki Glaser Roast Debate
10:52 Chappelle on Obama Podcast
13:35 Louis CK New Material
14:28 Comedy Stock Market Picks
16:07 Netflix Festival Insights
18:05 Festival Tonight Guide
19:54 Roast of Kevin Hart Mystery
20:37 Wrap Up and Knicks

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Callarogas shock media.

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Hey, crazy busy. We continues. Hello, I'm Johnny mag with

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your daily comedy news, A daily briefing on standup comedy,

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comedians and the comedy industry. A sentence the algorithm loves.

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Where to even begin, Let's start with this one. Jimmy

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Kimmel had John Mullaney on the show.

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You know, our friend Stephen Colbert is he's only got

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weeks to live, you know, yeah, right, yes? And by

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live I mean on television?

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And is there any other better way to live?

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I was looking at your Instagram and I'm not realizing

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I look at your Instagram too much, but oh I.

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Approached you about this.

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Actually, this is a message that you wrote last time

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you're on the show. I can barely read that, but

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it says me, Stephen Colbert, David Byrne, the best, my

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last time at the ed Sullivan Theater with the kindest,

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coolest man in late night.

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Now right, well.

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Last fat I just say, right now to the audience.

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Applause was not the reaction I was looking for. Now,

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kindest I could have definitely dealt with, for sure, even

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coolest on its own I for sure could have done

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the in and kindest coolest in Late Night really narrows

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it down, Yeah yeah, really narrows it down.

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To just a few guys. Yeah yeah.

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And so then I sent this to you.

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Yeah, with the text that said, I let you live

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in my house, yeah, which which during a wayward a

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dressless period of my life, I lived in your house

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just for a while.

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Was there a period of time where you lived in

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Steven's house for longer.

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Than I have to say? The man's never invited me over.

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But I think obviously, like what a position you've all

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put us in. You're all getting suspended and fired constantly.

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That conan retires, we all have to talk so hyperbolically

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about all of you so often we're out of words.

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The coolest who gives it? I mean, it's psyche, he's

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he's off the air. You gotta say something nice. If

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you had been full fired, not half fire, yeah, I

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would have said, this is the kindest coolest guy in

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Late Night. And I broke his bathtub once.

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While m'laney was in town, he sat down for this

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Better Be Funny with David Letterman special guest John mulaney.

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Before bringing out Mlany, Dave brought out our good friend

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Paul Shaffer. The capacity crowd greeted Paul Shaeffer with a

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standing ovation. Letterman has signed on to executive produce Say

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Hello to Our Good Friend to Paul Shaffer, an upcoming

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future documentary about Paul Shaffer. Recap says Dave and Paul

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traded quips like they did for years. Shaeffer came back

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to close the show ninety minutes later by taking a

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seat at the piano and performing Frank Sinatra's That's Life.

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So this sounds very similar to the Vancouver show that

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a friend of the show, Mike Chisholm, who hosts the

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Letterman Podcast, Mike could come on here to tell us

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about that one. So it sounds like it was very

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similar when Paul shot up in Vancouver. Also like the

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Vancouver show, Dave kicked off the La show with an

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opening that played like this is your Life. Dave looked

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back on his early days, all the way back to childhood.

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Photos flashed on the screen showing a young David Letterman

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in his yearbook photo and on the basketball and track

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teams at Broad Ripple High School in Indianapolis, Indiana. Dave

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recapped highlights of his career early radio and TV gigs,

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the time he was a weekend weatherman, or when he

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reported live for KTLA at the nineteen seventy nine Rose Parade.

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I'll have to pull that clip someday. He played clips

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of himself on Mork and Mindy and the Mary Tyler

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Moore Hour. That's the variety show, not the famous sitcom.

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Dave talked about an early appearance at the Comedy Store, saying,

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I told a joke and nobody laughed, but I wasn't

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discouraged because I was specified. You can't be discouraged and

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petrified simultaneously. When I got off stage, there was a

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man there in the shadows, a man I recognized by

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the name of Richard Pryor. And Richard Pryor said to

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David Letterman, I really like that joke, Dave said, and

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I thought, oh my god, I can go ahead and

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pay the rent. It was a huge moment for me.

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Blaney comes out. Dave and John spent some time talking

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about Malleini's family. It sounds like Mullaney wents to stock material,

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which is kind of lame. To be honest, We've heard

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this before. If you listen to this show, if you

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pay attention to John mullaney, but the recap I see

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says that Mallani got lots of laughs for For the

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first thirty nine years of my life, I financially supported

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zero Vietnamese people. Now sitting in with you tonight, I

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have about ten on the books and to take cash

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app It's weird when people like, oh, what's your life

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like when you're doing all these projects, But most of

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my day is texting with elderly Vietnamese people about if

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they got the money, if they need more, if I

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bought an appliance at a breaks. I don't know if

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you know this, that's on me. M'laney said it was

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one of the greatest things that's ever happened to him,

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to have his life expanding that way, quoting Malleni, there's

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just no comparison to being Vietnamese. Being Chinese Vietnamese is

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the smartest thing I ever did. It's remarkable. It's remarkable.

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Letterman asked mullaney about some other stuff, like being the

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first comedian to play Wrigley Field, accepting an honorary patronage

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from Trinity College Dublin in Ireland, taking Malcolm to Graceland,

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and becoming a part owner of years the famous non

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autum alcoholic beer brand. Dave asked Lane about directing Robbie

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Hoffman special. Dave was curious what it's like to work

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with Robbie Hoffman. He prefaced his question saying, I've lost

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my way in the world of contemporary comedy because I'm

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so smitten by you in a handful of other young

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men and women who I think have elevated this craft,

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this art beyond early expectation in the world. Mullaney called

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Hoffman a total original, likening her debut to Sam Kinnison.

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Quote someone who you're like, I've never heard a comedian

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like this. I've never seen anyone this unafraid. You know,

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you throw Sam Kinnison in front of Johnny Mack and

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I was ready to say the phrase tap the brakes.

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But I don't think Mullaney's crazy there, Malaney said when

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she opened for me in San Diego at an outdoor

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venue on the water with lots of couples of tables,

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she never adjusted her act for anyone. Tell you that's

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gonna make for a nice pair on the Weekly Comedy Thing.

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That's the show I host on the Live one radio app.

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The app is free. The show is free, and over

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there I can play bits. So I'm going to back

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to back some Robbie with some Kinneseson. That's great. Mullaney said.

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He reached out to Robbie Hoffman because he had a

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deal to direct and produce specials for Netflix. As John

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tells it, she goes, what's the money, and I go

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all told, you'll net blank there's a lot of expenses,

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and I have a small budget, and they'll license it,

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and it's a really interesting deal. But I'll just be

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up front. I take no fee to direct it, but

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you'll probably only net blank blank thousand. She's like, not

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very much. She came to the conclusion that was very

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good for her, but said to m'lanie, let's be clear,

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it's good for you too, because he seems street. When

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you do stuff like this, John, you seem street. It

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seems like you're plugged in, Mollini said. But I will

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say her prophecy came true. I am seen as cooler,

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I am street. A lot of people have been saying

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I see more Street. Now she's one of those people

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that makes me excited to just stand up again. Now

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this is an interesting change. Letterman asked Mullaney will he

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make more of the talk show. Mullany gave a non answer.

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He said, we have another season from Netflix. I'm on

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tour till January twenty twenty seven, so we shall see.

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So it's Schrodinger's talk show. It's both dead and not dead.

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Other conversation points they talked about Mullanie's time on SNL

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and the new Michael Jackson movie. Melanie asked Letterman whether

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a Letterman would see it. Dave declined. Mlaney said, I

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don't think that program is for me. I don't say this,

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by the way, some kind of stance, but just esthetically

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and as a film, it looks stupid and bad. I

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don't think that was filmed. I wonder if that will

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come out on some form on Netflix. That sounds really amazing.

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I would love to see that. Maybe it's one of

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those you just had to be there, all right. It

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was the finals of Funny af that's the Kevin Art

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comedy competition series, which I'm behind on. But I've been

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picking away at and I was like, you know what,

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this is a pretty good version of such a thing.

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I could give notes. I think I have given notes,

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but just it's like something I have on while I'm

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scrolling on Twitter to see what's up with a hantavirus.

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It's nice to have on in the background. Anyway, it

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was the finals. Here's Kevin Hart. Viewers around the world

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have voted and the winner.

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How funny af is?

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And why did you clip it there? Johnny was just

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about to tell us who won. Yeah, so the problem

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is Kevin Hart dropped an F bomb, and I try

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not to do that on this program. Your winner was

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thirty four year old Detroit Bourne comic Ron Taylor. Taylor

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went out over at Caitlyn Palufo, Sama, Sidiki and Regg Thomas.

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Kevin Hart said, Ron is such an amazing talenty. It's

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a strong voice, and I love his energy. He's poised,

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polished and now position to be a face that will

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be seeing for quite some time. This competition was everything

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was supposed to be plus more. The four finalists were

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all amazing. They did not disappoint. I'm blown away at

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Ron's win and we're all in full celebration mode. I

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got a high five Kevin Hart. There is gonna make

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a short joke, should I? I got a low five

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Kevin Hart hack, But like I said, this was a

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good version of that, and you came away liking these

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people and rooting for them, and you got to see

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some newer faces. So it was a good job there.

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Taylor was crowned the winner during a taping on Tuesday

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night that aired live on Netflix. He will now get

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his own Netflix special, he said, he will title that

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special Elevate Now. During the semi finals, they did a

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roast and Nikki Glazer was there, and I was like,

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hold on, hold on, hold on Niki Glazer, and they're

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like praising Nicki Glazer that she's the greatest roast comic

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of all time, which will debate some other day. Don

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Rickles and did Tony Hinchcliff write the jokes at the

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Brady Roast? But okay, fine, Nicki Glazer is the greatest

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roast comedian of all time. She's in Los Angeles with

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Kevin Hart and on Sunday is the roast of Kevin

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Hart and Nicki Glazer the greatest roaster of all time?

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Isn't doing the roast of Kevin Hart. The whole thing

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was weird, especially when Kevin Hart is just waxing poetic

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about what a great roaster she is. Why isn't she

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doing the roast of Kevin Hart. I mean, if you're

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the greatest, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out,

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hear me out, hear me out. If you're the greatest

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roaster of all time? Should I not be able to

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wake you up out of bed and you just slay?

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Wouldn't that make you the greatest? Right?

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I know?

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Niki said, oh, I need time to prepared jokes. Well,

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maybe you're not the greatest. Then maybe you're the best prepared.

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I don't know. The whole thing was weird. A guy

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named Chris grulan Comedy on three did a breakdown here.

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I have not confirmed this, but according to his threads account,

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he said, Osama time on stage six thirty five total laughs,

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fifty three laughs per minute, eights applause breaks, five, run

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time on stage six thirty two total lasts, fifty five

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last per minuted, eight point four applause breaks six. All right,

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very similar numbers. Caitlin seven minutes twenty four sixty four

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total laughs, eight point six lass per minute, five applause breaks,

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but it is interesting. If you follow me in the

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Facebook group Daily Comedy News Podcast Group, you saw me

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post Thursday Midday that like, hey, I just had to

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I mean, check your watch. We're this four in and

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Dave Chappelle was on Michelle Obama's podcast, Here's Dave.

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It's never really been quite like this before, where everyone

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feels like we're on the precipice of some amazing change.

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the last day, and this doesn't seem like it's eving

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going to end. And every week I learned some new

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word like straight of her moves or blah blah blah.

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for me now to watch comedians contextualize this stuff. Someone

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asked me about my transgender I say, say, you know,

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you got a lot of trouble for those transgender jokes,

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and I go, ah, the good.

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Old days.

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going to get more pick up, will become more of

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a thing because of some of the words of Dave Chappelle,

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some of the blowback he's going to get, and that

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Michelle Obama was there and really didn't comment on what

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Chappelle said. Dave was talking about trans jokes. Dave said,

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people would think it's me versus the gay community. I

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never looked at it like that. Oh, it was corporate

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interest and culture negotiating itself. So you know, most of

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these people who were critical of what I was doing

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didn't seem like they were of it. It's like they

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had their faces pressed against the glass commenting on what

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we were doing in there, but they weren't there doing it.

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Every opinion you could think of is represented in a

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comedy club. Every type of person you can imagine does

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stand up comedy, transgender stand up comics, black, white, Asian,

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every kind of perspective, and we all champion whatever opinion

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we champion. We would never think to silence one another.

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Dave said, being in the room for a joke is

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much different than a joke being read on paper or

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perhaps by some idiot in a basement reading your words

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on his dumb podcast. I if Dave Chappelle has that

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criticism of me, I think Dave Chappelle would be correct.

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Dave said, for a media outlet to speculate on a

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comedy show that they weren't at or misinterpreted joke, nothing

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makes a comedian matter than reading his joke wrong in

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the paper, you know, And reading a joke is nothing

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like hearing one or being one. And the intention of

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a comedy show is a very unique intention. We're playing

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with whatever the culture is made of, and we break

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it down and we get it right or we get

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it wrong. But in all art, if it's going to

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be good or even hopefully great, you gotta have a

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margin of error. I think that's all very fair. And

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like I just said, if if if Chappelle or any

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comedian like hates when I quote their stuff, they're right.

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They're one hundred percent right. In Yahoo or maybe it's

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from them dot com, Matthew Rodriguez writes, come again. Many

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of Chappelle's anti trans jokes were not in fact digested

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on paper, but were available and widely watched a series

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of Netflix specials that were available for all to see.

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the comedians saying he is Team Turf seems like one

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of those situations where you get exactly what it says

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on the tin. Also from Yahoo, they were talking more

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about K's show the other night. They observe themes that

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stuck out in CK's performance are ridiculous. Is the new

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materials interest in aging, death, wisdom, and regret. Take for

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instance the call and response bit where Ck said I'm

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so old and the crowd yelled how old are you?

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He named three increasingly bleak truths about approaching sixty, concluding

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I'm so old that I live in the present for

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the first time, not because of wisdom, but from because

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there's too much of the past and not enough of

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the future. The thing about life that I've learned is

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that life is too long. It's way too long. It's

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way too long because you again have a good life, but

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then you're still live after that one. And also you

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kind of figure life out, you figure out the world,

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I don't feel bad for somebody that gets old, because

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you don't have to do it. Getting old is what

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happens when you don't die for a long time. That's

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all it is. Uh. That quote worries me a little bit, Louis,

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I hope you're doing all right.

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Comedy stock marketine.

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Every week we take a look at what comedian stock

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we should buy and we should sell. Again. This is

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not a judgment on who's good or bad. It's a

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judgment on value. Who's overvalued, who's undervalued. Let's buy some

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Ron Taylor, right, I mean Kevin Hart backing Ron Taylor.

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Ron Taylor getting in a Netflix special. Let's get in

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while it's still low. Let's also get in on some

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more job. It's Johnson. He's got a new special coming

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to HBO. We'll talk about that next week. It's just

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way too busy this week to get to that. I

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also did get to tell you about Larry the Cable Guy.

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So we're gonna buy some Larry the Cable Guy. We'll

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get all these stories. Another bye. Johnny's positive today. Vittorio Angeloni.

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I've seen him personally up in Montreal that has been

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buzzing him for a few years, and now playing out

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in la at the Netflix Festival. A lot of people

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getting to see Vittorio for the first time. Good buzz

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on him. Mo Ammer. I always like what he does,

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and he's now consulting to the Daily Show. That's another buy.

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Hard Funny AF shows. Let's buy some Jeffic Curry and

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I got some sales for you. Andrew Schultz, I got

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story in tomorrow. His co host is leaving the Flagrant Podcast.

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We're gonna buy Ron Taylor, Larry the Cable Guy, Vittorio Angeloni,

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mo Amer, Jeffic Currey, and we're gonna sell Andrew Schultz

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and Louis c K. My dog is no dog knows

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it's a nice day and wants to go for a

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long walk. Oh you just pulled up on the floor here, okay,

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dog is co hosting the show. Deadline had caught up

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with the Netflix folks earlier in the week. Robbie pra

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who heads up Netflix Comedy, said, you're getting this huge

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community of talent to come in and all be in

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LA and not only comedians, but people who work with comedians,

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people from around the world who work in the comedy business.

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probably the biggest pivot, turning it into a week Tracy

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the bigger comedy ecosystem that we have here at Netflix,

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does many different things here in flexus different muscles, So

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how do we best take pride in that and give

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our talent the opportunity to get involved. Robbie said, that's

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a good point, merging very popular podcasts with some of

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our biggest shows. I think that's a real fun development

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this time around. I think we have more music and

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athletes in the festival, but God's something that organically happened

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last time and we're excited to do that. Deadline asked,

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what have you figured out in the last four years

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a festival when you have so many big names. I'll

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bigger names weren't selling out, including c K. Robbie Pros said,

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to be the number two I think. At the Montreal

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people waking up, seeing things all around town, saying the

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festival's coming, and starting to pick the festival shows they

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want to go to, which is a little different than

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the typical behavior. We have a touring comedian coming to

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town really just speaking to their fans. I think a

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joy about any festival, not just hours, is people experimenting.

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I'll jump in again. Amen to that. I always tell you,

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if you go to a festival, go see the random shows.

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Don't only see headliners. Robbie says. People picking the thing

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that they know they love the most and then giving

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a shot to somebody maybe they heard is cool that

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they just want to try out to take advantage of

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this being in their hometown. Amen. We are getting along here,

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and the dog wants to go out, and so does John.

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John's been on the computer. What is it? It's two

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o'clock at Thursday afternoon. I started at seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

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twelve one. I have another career for seven hours, and

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I'm a podcaster who works from home and it's sunny out,

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I want to go outside. Let's see what's at the festival.

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Two nights Hollywood Bowl seven thirty. John m'aliney's Mister Whatever

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the Bad Friends podcast at the YouTube Theater at seven o'clock.

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What is this beautifully Broken Comedy Night hosted by jelly

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Roll that's at the Greek Theater. That'll get a click

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out of me. Let's see what this one is? Oh

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interesting show, they're not marketing this properly beautifully broken Comedy

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Night is America's foremost political commentator, Ata Schultz, Tony Hinchcliffe,

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Big Jay Oakerson, Adam Ray, Jeff Ross, and Josh Adam Myers.

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