Dec. 1, 2024

Popcorn time: Joe Rogan vs. Anthony Jeselnik

Show Notes
Transcript

In today's episode, Johnny Mac battles a bad cold but discusses: Anthony Jeselnik's contentious joke about Joe Rogan sparking a social media skirmish, Jeselnik's views on cancel culture and comedian responsibilities, and critical opinions on special performances by Jeselnik and James Acaster.

Then Johnny MacBot takes over due to Johnny's voice condition. Comedy news features Joel Kim Booster's approach to crafting his new special, Patton Oswalt's expanding comic book series, Brooklyn Cat Café's quirky Zoomies comedy show with cats, Wayne Knight's weight loss impact on his acting career, and more.

00:18 Anthony Jeselnik vs. Joe Rogan
01:03 Jeselnik on Cancel Culture and Comedy
01:56 Jeselnik's Views on Tony Hinchcliffe and Political Comedy
02:44 Audience Reactions and Showbiz Challenges
03:36 James Acaster's Unique Comedy Style

05:07 AI Johnny Mac Experiment
05:52 Joel Kim Booster's New Special
06:14 Patton Oswalt's Comic Book Series
06:33 Brooklyn Cat Café's Zoomies Comedy Show
07:27 Wayne Knight's Weight Loss Journey

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Calaroga Shark Media Johnny Max got a bad cold. The

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COVID test was negative, but as you can hear, my

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voice does not exist. I think if I talk from

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the front of my mouth, I'll be able to make

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it through here. Anthony jessel Nick is in a little

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bit of a war now with Joe Rogan and the

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Newest Special. Jessel Nick has a joke that says, I

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like Joe, but if you listen to his podcast, you're

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an effing loser. Rogan retweeted a clip with Jeslnick telling

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the joke and wrote, hands up if you're a loser.

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I watched the special. I made it seven minutes in

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and I just thought it was I don't want use

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the word bad. I just didn't care. It wasn't doing

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anything for me. It's just like, you know, here's a premise,

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and now I say something twisted and dark, over and

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over and over and over and over, like I get

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that's what the act is, but it's tired. Seven minutes

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I made it into that one. The Daily Beast dusted

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off some background on the Rogan versus Anthony battle here.

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Jessinnick was on THEO Vaughn's podcast back In twenty twenty three,

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The Daily Beast writes, Jessinic pushes back on comedians who

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believe they should be able to say whatever they want.

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He said, that's wrong as far as I'm concerned. People

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think as a comic, their job is to get in trouble,

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but they don't want to get yelled at. It's okay

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to make people mad, but they don't want any pushback.

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If you put out a special and everyone's ticked, he

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didn't get away with it. You need to make everyone laugh,

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that's right, otherwise you're just a troll. In the special,

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Justlinnick addresses cancel culture and said comedians are supposed to

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be on parallel badasses. I know this because I have

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an effing mirror. Towards the end of the hour spoilers,

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Jesslinnick says, guys. Don't get me wrong. I like Joe.

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Joe's my friend. Joe's a good guy, but if you

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listen to his podcast, you're an effing loser. Back in

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twenty nineteen, justin Nik til the Last Laugh podcast. I

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want to be the type of villain that the other

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villains are afraid of. We live in a world now

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where there are very real villains. I'm a comedian. People

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get mad at me, but I make people laugh for

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a living. There are way worse people out there that

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you should be upset with, and I like that I

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might make those people a freed. Krackt asked Jessinic about

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Tony Hinchcliff. They were curious, say, Anthony, did you watch

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that joke and say I know how to make that

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joke work. Jessinix said, I never would have put myself

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in that position. Firstly, on either side of political rally

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at MSG was the wrong joke to tell. I don't

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have a problem with to joke and listen. I love

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Puerto Rico. I've given money to Puerto Rico for earthquakes

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and hurricanes. I didn't find it distasteful. It was like,

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I get what you're doing, but their constituents, you're trying

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to get them to vote for you. What are you doing?

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And that was my big takeaway, You're roasting the wrong things.

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If I had been hired by Donald Trump to do that,

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I would have roasted his opponents. I would have roasted

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states who's definitely gonna lose that we could all laugh at.

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This is not crazy talk by Jessini at all. I

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think he just misjudged his audience and that was his

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greatest sin. I think the joke is fine. I don't

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think it's a good joke, but I'm not as upset

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about it as some people were, unless you put it in

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the context of the opening of the last minute political rally,

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that of course didn't change anything. Cracked. If your audience

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is more conservative, do you worry that they're enjoying your

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jokes but not in the way you intend? Jeslinix. Sometimes

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it doesn't really matter to me. I have one joke

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where I say I'm against cancel culture. In the audience cheers,

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I think they're playing along. I think they know that

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I'm making fun of people who say that they're going

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to cheer because that's what a hack comedy the audience

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would cheer for. Sometimes I think they're cheering because they

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know what's about to happen. I rarely think they're cheering because, yeah,

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he's on our side. Because they know I'm gonna pull

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out the rug from them if they're coming to buy

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a ticket, They're like, I'm happy to have the rug

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pulled out from underneath me. My audience is smart enough

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not to have to agree with everything I say to

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themselves and then ay of you lost and I showed

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his jobs because being material. Justin Ix said, I was

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always sprised that I was able to get on TV

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at all. What the five minutes jokes that I'd tell

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I was doing my actor try to audition? I have

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somebody hire me to write for them. I never thought

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I'd be a stand up of this magnitude, just because

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I thought they're not gonna let me on TV with this.

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And this was before Netflix. It was like, could you

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get on Conan? Can you get on premium Blend? And

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I wasn't sure in the beginning. I also watched James

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Acaster's special, and by watched, I mean stared at it

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for eight minutes wondering, what are you even trying to

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do here? I'm just bewildered. I got the premise that

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people were allowed to heckle him, but maybe then, if

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that's the premisure selling, maybe have somebody heckle in those

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first eight minutes. Uh wow. I mean I didn't like

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Justin k special at all, but at least like I

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get it Acast I didn't get it all, neither one

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of them. We'll make my end of the Year list.

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I'd rather watch an Adam Sailor comedy and be honest.

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Vulture spoke to Acastor their question, if you could conceive

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of a version of stand up where there was no audience,

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what would yours look like? Acaster said, when bo Burnham

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did Inside, I think every stand up had the thought of, oh, shoot,

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he's done the thing a lot of us have been

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thinking throughout a career. Wouldn't be great if I could

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do this without them here. But then you're like, at

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what point is that not stand up anymore? I love

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that special. I think it's an incredible achievement and we'll

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be remembered for generations. It's such an amazing time capsule

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and it was the perfect thing to do during lockdown.

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But in many ways it's the first ever YouTuber comedy special.

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That was his origin and he utilized that, and that's

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what I thought. He was so amazing at I think

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the answer I've landed on and someone will do this

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at some point is the other way around. There's no comedian,

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but there's an audience, so you go to the Abba

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voyage route of having a hologram. I went to see

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Abba and I got a jacket there and originally in

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the show and wear it on stage and not reference it.

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Someone will do it someday. I'll be very jealous of

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that person. If I'm not the one who's done it,

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I probably won't be because the admin alone seems like

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a nightmare. But you'd be able to do multiple shows

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a day, sitting at home somewhere and get on with

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your life. That sounds pretty pretty sweet, and that is

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gonna be my inspiration for what we're gonna do. Here.

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You hear my voice, it's gone. I have a new

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tool that I haven't taken out of the toolbox yet.

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So in the spirit of what James A Caster just did,

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I'm gonna take the break and I'll deal you straight.

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When we come back from the break, it's going to

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be AI Johnny Mack. I will write the words, but

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I'm going to have my new AI avatar voice it

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because I sound like crap. Okay, So I'm not trying

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to trick you. I'm not trying to lie to you.

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I will write the words, the AI will voice everything.

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After the commercial break, and it's a holiday weekend. What

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better time to experiment than right now? When I have

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the excuse of I sound like crap and my voice hurts,

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and I've got the technology, and it's a holiday weekend,

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so when we come back AI Johnny Mack with more.

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Joel Kim Booster opened up to the eight hundred Pound

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Gorilla about crafting his new special. He's focused on creating

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a cohesive through line to elevate it beyond just an

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hour of jokes. He's currently working with directors to refine

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the show's structure. He prefers smaller venues that allowed direct

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audience connection and crowd work, saying he'd rather look the

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audience in the eye than perform in three thousand seat theaters.

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While respecting peers who thrive in larger venues like the

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Greek Theater, Booster maintains he's really content exactly where I am.

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Patton Oswalt's comic book series Minor Threats is expanding with

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a new anthology, Welcome to Twilight City. We'll bring in

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major creators including Matt Fraction, Brian Michael Bendis, Michael Alred,

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and Gene Haw for a four issue Dark Horse series

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in twenty twenty five. This next one is fun Brooklyn

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Cat Cafes, Monthly Zoomies comedy show features adoptable cats roaming

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free and occasionally heckling during stand up sets. At a

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recent show, a grey kitten named Pebbles became the breakout star,

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interrupting comics with sassy mews from the back of the room.

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Comics quickly learned cats make unpredictable audience members. The lineup,

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including host Marty Cunney and comedians like Alison Leeby and

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Natasha vain Blatt, had to dodge cat storming the stage,

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starting fights, crash into audience members, and attacking the mic cord.

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The best sets embraced the chaos, making Pebbles's antics a

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running bit. While lacking traditional comedy club amenities, the scrappy

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show delivers laughs along with the chance to meet adoptable pets.

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Attendees are encouraged to pet and play with cats during

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the show, though may have done again. Told the Dodo,

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the experience may leave you feeling satisfied and covered in

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cat hair. The show runs first Fridays at Brooklyn Cat Cafe.

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Pebbles is still seeking her forever home. Adopted on chap

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Wayne Knight, you know him as Newman from Seinfeld, reports

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his one hundred and ten pound weight loss has hurt

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his acting career, He told TMZ. It takes time for

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people to accept you as you are, and then they

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find out whether or not you can still do things

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without being fat. Knight shed the weight since his nineteen

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ninety three Jurassic Park role through various methods including therapy,

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drug surgery, exercise, and radiation. When asked if he lost

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weight the old fashioned way, he said, what do you

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mean like not eating? Yes, that does work, and that

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is your comedy news for today. If you're a human

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with no voice, feel better and remember resistance is futile.

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See you tomorrow,