Shane Gillis SNL more reactions, Club cancels Dave Smith, Louis J. Gomez, Jim Florentine, and Kurt Metzger gig

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Kalaroga Shark Media. Hello, I'm
Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news.

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A lot of Shane Gillis reactions,
but first let me tell you about a

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Seattle comedy club that canceled four stand
up comedians. They are Dave Smith,

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Lewis, J Gomez, Jim Florentine, and Kurt Metzger. They were canceled

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after angry community activists complained. According
to the comedians involved, these shows were

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at the Capitol Hill Comedy Bar,
and the version that we're being told is

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that left wing community actives and progressive
comics were offended. The comedians say they

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received an email from the club co
owner, who's also a stand up comics,

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saying the gigs had to be canceled. The decision came after discussions with

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our team, investors', local comedians, and neighborhood advocacy groups. An email

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posted by Jim Florentine and Kurt Metzger
says Capitol Hill is known for its progressive

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values, and we received significant feedback
expressing concerns about the alignment of these upcoming

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shows with the neighborhood's eth This feedback
includes concerns from local advocacy groups that are

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deeply embedded for our community and work
towards upholding its values. The goal is

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to avoid any potential negative impact on
both our club and the artists involved,

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as well as to maintain the harmony
without our community. Gomez on his podcast

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said, are they idiots for booking
us? And then on booking us?

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Yes, it's a dumb move.
Is my former agent an idiot for booking

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me at a superwoke progressive venue like
that? The entire lineup was like blue

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haired freaks. That's what happens when
comics don't have anything going on, they

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look for drama. So the owner
found drama within the comedy space there,

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and she was like, all right, I think they're great, but I

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don't need to make it a thing. According to a report from Kiing five,

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the Capitol Hill Comedy Bar makes comics
adhere to the Code of Conduct,

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which outlines expectations for respectful behavior and
language, helping to create a welcoming space

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for both comics and guests. Podcaster
Joshua Smith said, who needs comedy when

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Seattle is already a joke? Okay? Comedian Toby Turner tweeted the community bought

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tickets the people sabotaging. It aren't
really the community. What's going on over

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there? Fox News' is tyrus said
friendly advice book and another venue close to

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the town. Sell it out and
kill it in three months. When they

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tell you it's all good to come
back, send them the same email.

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Juno Mann is a local comic and
show producer who works with the club and

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hosts Funny Queer Asians. She said, I have loved working with this club

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and a more resolute and doing so
given their decision to prioritize the safety and

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inclusiveness of the local community. So
I see an article from last May from

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a King of five Comedy born now
open in Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood. According

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to that article, Capitol Hill Comedy
Bar is dedicated to supporting the art and

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craft of stand up comedy with integrity
and professionalism. The staff believes that creating

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a safe, accessible, and respectful
environment is of utmost importance. The goal

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is to provide a harassment free environment
regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability,

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physical appearance, body type of race. All comics performing on stage must

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either adhere to the Code of Conduct, which outlines expectations for respectful behavior and

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language, helping to create a self
and welcoming space for comics and guests.

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So you know, I can both
sides this one. If the club wants

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to have a certain vibe and style
and expectation, sure go ahead. But

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why book these guys? These guys
are known, they do a festival called

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skank Fest. I mean, did
nobody do homework? How did they get

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booked? A lot of Shane Gillis's
reaction as expected. I on Sunday Night

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watched the entire episode as opposed to
just watching the individual clips. I thought

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it was an above average episode for
the last two years of Saturday Night Live.

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It didn't hit the heights of say
the Nate Berghatsy episode, but they've

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been far worse. The Io Atabury
episode was also pretty good. She was

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great. So I'll continue to say
what I've been saying. I find Shane

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funny, I find him charismatic.
I also think some of the points that

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I talked about during one of last
week's podcasts about some of the guests he's

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had on the podcast, so those
are worrisome. Vox writes. When Shane

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Gillis tells you who he is,
believe him in that article, they write.

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Shane Gillis is a thirty six year
old guy from Pennsylvania who was chasing

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a fledgling stand up career when he
began making inroad in twenty sixteen through the

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medium of comedy podcasting. This included
a stint hosting a show called a Fair

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One for Compound Media, a podcast
network created by Anthony Kumia, a notoriously

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offensive shock jock known for his own
racist comments. Yeah that's Anthony of Opian

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Anthony. Some of his comments are
so controversial. When I teach my college

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class on the fall, I spend
two and a half weeks just talking about

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Opian Anthony. And these are now
twenty year old incidents. Aunt plays on

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the side of the street that I
don't want to play on. I was

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actually asked to run the Opian Anthony
channel and I declined, and it probably

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didn't help my career at the old
place, but I just didn't want to

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deal with any of that. I
don't know if I've ever spoken to Anthony.

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I know Opia a little bit and
fed ob to be a good guy,

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Fox writes. Compound Media also hosted
Gavin Mcinness, the white nationalist who

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rallied other members of the network together
to form the Proud Boys, the extremist

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group that played a major role in
both the twenty seventeen Charlottesville Unite the Right

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rally and the January sixth insurrection.
Doesn't want to deal with any of that.

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Compound Media was the platform on which
Gillis dropped the racist slurs that ultimately

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got him dropped from SNL, but
it wasn't the only medium in which he

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aired his views and his independent comedy
work. In other projects, he was

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not shy about voicing repugnant views,
as one Philadelphia comedy club noted in twenty

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nineteen and a sense deleted tweet,
we like many were very quickly disgusted by

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Shane Gillis's over racism, sexism,
homophobian transphobia, expressed both on off stage.

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Upon working with him years ago,
Gillis's fans, including more liberal comedians

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like Gerrod Carmichael, seemed to believe
that, rather in being actually racist,

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Gillis is consciously cultivating his offensiveness purely
for the purposes of his comedy work.

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Vox writes this view as as old
as comedy itself, but in the current

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cultural era, it's evolved into what
nprs Eric Deakins is called bigotry denial syndrome.

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The thinking goes that a comedic project
has a certain level of importance and

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purpose, the level of which should
completely negate any suspicion that the comedian truly

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believes what they're performing, let alone
that they deserve consequences for the offensive material.

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In Gillis's case, it seems more
accurate to say that he's not performing

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ironic racism at all. He's coasting
on other people's good faith belief that he

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must be acting totally ingest. In
a twenty sixteen interview with Gillis, he

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claimed to be running experiments on his
audience. He said, it's funny what

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people will laugh at compared to what
they're so eager to prove that they're not

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laughing at. The conclusion we're left
with is with all that panic, as

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it so often does whenever someone is
supposedly canceled, has subsided, likely to

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have dissipated. In the wake of
Gillis's continued success, Vulture put forth two

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reasons for hosting the gig, and
the timing, one that perhaps Michaels is

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trying to remain a political during an
election year and wants to do that by

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opening up a platform for comics who
appeal to the right. And two that

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Lorne Michaels lives for the drama Pointer
had a good note and they had me

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wondering what Dave Chappelle might have done, how Dave Chappelle might have addressed his

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own controversy point right, So I
saw Gillis's monologue as an opportunity badly missed

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and what might be his only churn. Ever, his host, Gillis would

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have smartly addressed his past controversy as
well of his style of comedy. By

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the way, if you haven't heard
the monologue, I played clips from it

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on Monday's podcast. Shane could have
explained his point of view. He could

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have given his critics something to consider
instead of letting them assume as comedy goes

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to the lowest common denominator. If
Gillis is talented enough to actually have once

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been hired as an sl cast member, and funny enough to still end up

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being a host after being fired,
shouldn't he be clever enough to come up

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with a monologue that weaves together as
comedy and commentary about his comedy that is

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an excellent point by pointer. Gillis
took the safe way out and delivered a

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moment, then a real no impact, A hollow reporter writes. Fortunately for

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Shane Gillis, the SNL writers know
how to deploy a Gillis type, and

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he amiably played average white joes and
most of his sketches, including a contestant

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on the floor desperately trying to convince
others that he actually can identify famous black

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people. And as Forrest Gump's former
bully who peaked in high school, I

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thought both sketches were good. Gillis
played an Ohio Catholic dad who drags his

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family to church quifacationing in Jamaica.
He catches the spirit. The whole sketch

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ends with a literal crossing of the
aisle as the white source family and jams

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alongside the Jamaican congregation. I also
thought that was a funny sketch. Vulture

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wrote, Shane Gillis got away with
it, though we sometimes comes off as

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if barstool sports were a person not
bad. What Gillis does best in his

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comedy is translate red state values and
interest for a slightly broader audience. In

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his SNL monologue, though he does
the opposite, explaining at one point in

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the least defensive way that you can
muster what a dude himself thinks gay men

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are like. It's just filled without
data cliches that have no business in an

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era of this show that tends to
assume viewer familiarity with the modern landscape of

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sexuality and gender, and, considering
that his firing was partly due to homophobic

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content, performing this bit in the
setting seems particularly unwise. It did not

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go over well, especially with the
house band so many articles about the young

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and guitarist. She's probably getting a
lot more attention on than she wants.

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The Guardian says, what's ironic about
all this is how Gillis's actual comedy doesn't

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gell with either a narrative. Certainly, his persona is that of a meat

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headed conservative bro, but his material
for his edge, Lordy as it can

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be, more often than not ridicules
that demographic and with four sharper accuracy than

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ostensibly left leaning comedy, including an
especially snl. Anyone who's seen his recent

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Netflix special Beautiful Dogs and as being
Honest with Themselves recognizes his talent, even

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as his web series Gillian Keeve suggests
he's a mediocre sketch commedian in at best.

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For as much he did online discourse
as Gillis hosting BEGAT over the past

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couple weeks, it's hard to imagine
anyone feeling strongly about this episode one way

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or another. Gillis didn't exactly make
a case himself as any great missed opportunity,

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let alone the iconoclast as most ardent
fans were expecting. In fact,

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writes The Guardian, his reluctance to
address this firing made him look soft,

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especially when you compare it to the
nineteen ninety nine episode that Norm MacDonald hosted

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one year after his determination. But
then, Gillis is no Norm. The

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Guardian marked the thirtieth anniversary of the
death of Bill Hicks. This by Brian

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Logan, who wrote five years ago, I spoke about Bill hicks legacy with

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comics who weren't even born when he
applied his trade, and was startled to

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discover and how low regard they held
his work. Of course, I knew

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some of his material was out of
step with the times, but the extent

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to which the entire manner, the
whole Bill Hicks way of being as an

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outlaw, comic, of teller of
truth or power, and a man splainer

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now for many things A thing hideous
to behold that caught me by surprise.

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I have always found within the industry
Bill Hicks to be revered. Brian Logan

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Rights, I push back against it
a bit. I still would now,

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but revisiting Hicks material thirty years since
he died, I see more clearly what

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they meant if you're not familiar with
Bill Hicks. Basically, Dennis Leary lifted

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Bill hicks entire persona, so that
might be a way to shorthand it.

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But do yourself a favor and look
up Bill Hicks on YouTube. This reminds

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me of back at Serious before the
merger, Comedy Intern number five loaded some

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albums by Bill Hicks, except there's
another artist named Bill Hicks who did like

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smooth jazz guitar albums. So I'm
listening to my channel one day and there's

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like Bill Hicks guitar on and I'm
like, did you not listen to the

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clip? Stupid intern intern did not
get a job at the end of the

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semester. Logan Rights, I suppose
that my taste and standards like anyone else's

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can't help but be shaped by the
changing world around me. And with each

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passing half decade, I get a
bit more distance from the teen comedy fan

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that held Hicks to be just about
as good as comedy gets more of that

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tomorrow, getting a little long here. Donnell Rawlings has a new special out

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today. It is called Donnel Rollings
A New Day. Actually it's called Chappelle's

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Home Team, Donnell Rollings a New
Day. You'll find this on Netflix.

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Dressed in a blue suit, red
sox and lotion ankles, Donelle's here to

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discuss toxic relationships, traveling in New
Zealand, aging cope, parenting, and

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much more. Kind of weird,
right that Donell had all those controversies last

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week and was shouting to Corey Holcomb
and just a week later he's got a

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new special on Netflix. Weird.
A correction on yesterday's podcast, I teld

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you tig Nataro's special is out.
No, yesterday was February twenty sixth.

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Tig Nataro's special is out on March
twenty sixth. Sorry if I ruined your

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Monday night. Amy Schumer has revealed
she has been diagnosed with Cushing's syndrome,

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a relatively rare hormonal disorder that can
change a person's facial appearance and cause weight

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gain. She spoke with the newsletter
News Not Noise. Amy said there are

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a few types of cushing, some
that can be fatal require brain surgery or

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removal of adrenal glands. While I
was doing press on camera for my Hulu

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show, I was also in MRI
machines four hours at a time, having

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my veins shut down from the amount
of blood drawn, and thinking I might

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not be around to see my son
grow up. So finding out how this

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kind of cushing that will just work
itself out and I'm healthy was the greatest

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news imaginable. It's been a crazy
couple weeks for me and my family.

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Aside from fears about my health,
I also had to be on camera having

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the Internet chime in. But thank
God for that, because that's how I

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realized something was wrong, just like
when I had realized I'd named my son

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something that didn't sound so good.
The Internet is undefeated, as they say.

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The only thing I'd like to add
is that this is a good example

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of the fact that we never know
what's going on with someone. Everyone is

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struggling with something. Maybe we can
all be a little kinder to each other

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and ourselves. Late Night with Seth
Myers turned ten years old over the weekend.

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Seth said it's took about six months
for the show to find itself.

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He think a big change is when
he stopped doing an opening monologue and just

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sat at the desk. He jokes, once people stop seeing my legs,

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we turned a corner. Another change, he said, it seems so silly

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to wear a suit with no audience
during the pandemic, so I was in

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casual. Then when the audience came
back, I just felt more in my

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own skin. Dressing more like myself
allows me to be more like myself.

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I don't know if it's permanent,
but it's a nice feeling. The other

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day I put on a suit for
something else and I was like, ugh,

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I don't ever want to feel that
way. Will he still be doing

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this job in ten years? Sas
says, I don't know. I've tried

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my career to never think that forehead. I'd like to do it for a

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few more years. I can't imagine
anything being more enjoyable than that. I'm

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coming up on twenty five years at
thirty rock, and I'm pretty sure I'll

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get a watch or maybe a nice
pin tell you this. If I don't

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make it at twenty five, there
should be an investigation because that means they

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just don't want to spend watch money. Conflicting reports. Donald Glover suggested that

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the community film script was done,
but Dan Harmon, who would know because

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he's writing it, tells Variety it's
almost done. Dan says, what can

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I tell you about it? Set
on the campus of Greendale Community College.

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I'm super excited about it and we're
almost done. And that is your comedy

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news for today. If you enjoy
the program, let's tell more people about

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it. Share it on social media, or tell your friend at the bar

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at trivia and I'd be like,
Hey, I was listening to this podcast

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and this guy's not that annoying.
You should check it out. Something like

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that. Much appreciated. See tomorrow