Nov. 9, 2024

The State of Comedy November 2024 - it's off tone

The State of Comedy November 2024 - it's off tone

Johnny Mac discusses his recent trip to Manhattan to watch 'Back to the Future: The Musical', sharing his excitement and giving praise to the cast and production. He voices concerns about the state of comedy and its current tone, citing recent satire...

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Johnny Mac discusses his recent trip to Manhattan to watch 'Back to the Future: The Musical', sharing his excitement and giving praise to the cast and production. He voices concerns about the state of comedy and its current tone, citing recent satire and political humor from late-night hosts. The episode includes opinions on Bill Burr's take on politics and comedy, reflections on the presidential election results, and highlights upcoming comedy events and festivals.

00:00 Introduction and Today's Agenda
00:15 Back to the Future: The Musical Experience
01:39 New York Comedy Festival Observations
02:24 Bill Burr and Political Comedy
05:18 Reflections on Comedy and Politics
12:15 Upcoming Comedy Shows and Festivals


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Callaroga Shark Media.

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I am Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news. I

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feel like being conversational today. I've got some stuff on

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my mind. I want to tell you about Back to

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the Future of the Musical. I want to talk about

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where I think comedy is right now, and I'm not

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sure it's on the mark at the particular moment, So

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let me just talk for a little bit. In the

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second half, we'll tell you about the comedy festivals and

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do some stories. Thursday night, I went into Manhattan, which,

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if you listen to the show, you know like, oh,

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I have to go to Manhattan. I would seriously rather

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drive to Chicago. It's easier. I would rather fly to Australia.

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It's easier. Getting to Manhattan is a bear. But I

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went because my daughter hooked me up with tickets to

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Back to the Future the Musical and it was awesome,

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just a good time. I'm like jonesing now to watch

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the movies again. The guy that plays Marty McFly does

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that Michael J. Fox creaky voice thing. I don't think

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I have a half assed Michael J. Fox impression, but

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you know the voice he nails that shows a lot

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of fun the actors have a good time performing their roles.

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These special effects are amazing. It really reminded me of

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when you're in a waiting room at Disney World and

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they're trying to distract you. Standing there for half an hour,

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just fantastic. It's closing in January, which stinks. January fifth

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is the last day for the Broadway run. I do

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see there's a Los Angeles run that goes until December first.

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There is a national tour of it. I also see

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San Diego dates in January and a world tour that

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will hit Japan and Germany. Anyway, if you could see

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this thing a lot of fun. I was high on

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life coming home last night. So while I was in

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New York City, I've mentioned the New York Comedy Festival,

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which i'll talk about in the second half. Is Invisible Now.

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I walked from thirty second Street and Seventh Avenue up

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to fiftieth Street and Seventh Avenue. So if you're not

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familiar with New York City, that's Times Square and the

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extended area. So basically I walked from Madison Square Garden

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through Times Square too the Broadway district. So if you're

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not from New York, and you think of New York,

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this is exactly the part of town that you think

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is New York City. No New York Comedy Festival. I

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saw Barker's holding up signs with Comedy Central logos on it,

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trying to get me to go to see some comedy shows.

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That's always the thing that goes on. But New York

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Comedy Festival completely invisible. They've been nothing but good to me.

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It's a good festival. But New York is too big,

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and boy was Times Square packed Saturday Night Live tonight

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with Bill Burr. I'm very curious to see what they

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do tonight, so I'll talk about the comedy part of

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it in a second. I saw this clip from Conan O'Brien.

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This is Bill Burr reacting to Trump being elected in

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twenty sixteen. So perhaps this is insight into what Bill

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Burr's thinking.

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And I don't understand why everybody's so upset. Yeah, get out, Like,

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what's gonna happen to you? Do you liked Obama?

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Did he call you at all in the.

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Last eight years? Did you ever put a sandwich on

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your table? You do that, You're gonna keep doing that.

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You're gonna be fine.

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Right, have you like Lona, Dude?

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I have to say though, him winning is the most

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astounding thing I've ever seen.

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It was a surprise, surprise.

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Dude, Like you're talking like like Lake Placid, the Olympics

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when we beat the Russian Barry sat Kirk Gibson's home

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run is a joke, right, the Giant's beating the undefeated Patriots,

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that's all a joke. Through the star of a reality

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show is gonna run the country. I got decided if

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Brett Michaels or Cindy Lauper would make a better CEO

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for a company that doesn't exist, it's gonna be running stock.

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It's unbelievable.

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Yeah, he just reminded me like when I didn't read

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the book and I'm just like just winging it. You know,

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how are you gonna do that? Oh you'll say, you'll say,

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did it worked.

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In twenty twenty two, Bill Burr, who's hosting SNL tonight,

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spoke to The Hollywood Reporter. In twenty two, Burr said,

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as someone who considers self liberal, it's this point to

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see the left come how the right used to be

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when they went after the Dixie Chicks after the criticized

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George W. Bush. It's not a lot of people like that.

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Most of them are not trying to get in trouble.

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But there's this small collection of lunatics either on the

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right or left any given moment that causes hysteria. You

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may recall in twenty twenty three, Bill's wife was seen

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giving Trump the middle finger at a UFC event. I

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remember the events. I forgot that it was Bill Burr's wife.

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Burr was on The Rich Eisen Show and said, I

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love my wife. You know where you stand with her.

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The guy walked in the arena, everybody cheered, she gave

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him the figure. Nobody got arrested. That's why his country's great.

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Everybody expressed themselves, can we all be adults on threads?

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And I got to figure out how we refer to

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a threads? So much easier saying tweeted, so triumph threaded

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on our mind you. Robert Smigel wrote many of the

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all time bits on Saturday Night Live, including Reagan mastermind

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Trium slash. Schnegel wrote snl open that won't happen. Biden

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woken up suddenly getting visits from people he hasn't heard

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from since July. All seeking preemptive Pardons, Pelosi, Shift, Liz Cheney, Stephanopolis, Lebron,

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Bill Maher, Beyonce plus Chris Christy and a guy who

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called Trump chump in college. Biden no, now you need me.

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Biden cuts deals with each of them, ranging from scoring

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tickets to taking someone else's shoes to smelling their hair.

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Somebody responded to that, saying, I got an image in

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my mind of Maya Rudolph sitting at a piano singing

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Hallelujah and now please excuse me, but I must go

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hurl yes, and now you're gonna have a lot of

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eyes on you tonight. Before I dive in today, let

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me quote Caroline Hirsch, who used to own Caroline's Comedy

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Club and has organized the New York Comedy Festival. Caroline

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Hirsch said, pay attention here. This is very important. Caroline

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Hirst said. Ideally, comedy is about taking information that may

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be controversial or polarizing and making it more palatable in

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a communal setting where everyone comes together to laugh and

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let off steam. We live in a country where fifty

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percent of the people are pissed off and fifty percent

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are happy. How do we bring those two sides together?

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By making them laugh. Laughing is a healing process. It

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soothes the soul. I'm glad I found that quote from

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Caroline because I have struggled to capture my feelings here

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and I think Caroline has captured them again. Comedy is

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about taking information that may be controversial or polarizing and

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making it more palatable in a communal setting where everyone

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comes together to laugh and let off steam. Let's dive in.

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So where I am with the election, and stay with me.

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If you listen to me every day, you kind of

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get my vibe here. I was not surprised at all

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by the result. Whatever my political opinions are, I was

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not surprised by the result. And I think Hacks on Tap,

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which is a podcast, nailed the vibe. And I'm leading

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up to something here. You may recall Tony Hinchcliffe told

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a joke, terrible joke, told one joke. It was a

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joke in the middle of a six hour event, in

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the middle of a four month campaign. They drilled down

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and everybody focused on that. And then I look at

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my friend Tom. My friend Tom has to work six

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days a week. I'm friends with some people who were

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very happy with the result.

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This week.

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I'm friends with some people who are very unhappy of

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the result. This week, hacks on Tap talked about the optics.

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So say you're standing on a stage with Beyonce and

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Bruce Springsteen. Hacks on Tap said, you got to understand

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how off putting this is to so much of America.

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It feels very comfortable if you're having a dinner party

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at Tina Face House, but out there where they're bending

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metal and parking squad cars for a living, it's not

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only a shortcoming, and it's an off putting vibe. That's

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how I feel about comedy right now. I get where

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the late night hosts are coming from. I get that

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comedy is supposed to comment on the current situation. I

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think Late Night is not helping themselves this week. I've

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mentioned here we have a podcast called Ballot, which makes

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fun of politics. I'm working with AI to take stories

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and make fun of the stories. If there's comedy to

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be mined, we make fun of it, pure comedy. Trump

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is a more colorful character than Harris was. Joe Biden.

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You can make old jokes. Jade Vance is a bit

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of a character. Tim Wallasle is a bit of a character.

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So we throw those things in there and we make

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fun of it. All Since the election, we've taken the

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point of view of us. We never made fun of Trump.

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What are you talking about? We love Trump and we're

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having fun with that, and then we talk about how

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much we love Trump while making fun of the stories.

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I think the late night guys are off tone. This week,

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Jimmy Kimmel said, let me tell you, that was the

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worst Taco Tuesday of my whole life. We had the

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choice between a prosecutor and a criminal, and we chose

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the criminal to be the president of the United States.

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More than half this country voted for the criminal who

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was planning to part in himself for his crimes. The

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Borto pick out there is more than half the country

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voted for the guy. And Kimmel I thought this joke

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was terrible. Donald Trump is like the Emperor from Star Wars.

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He's old, he's evil, and he keeps coming back with

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no reasonable explanation whatsoever. So a supertopical twenty eighteen, twenty

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nineteen Rise of Skywalker joke a better joke, Kimmell said.

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Kamala Harris called Trump today, She conceded and then explained

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what the word conceded me. And see that's funny, Kimmel joked,

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I can't stay for another four years of this. My

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only request to President elect Trump is that he let

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me share a prison cell with Taylor Swift. I'm really

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good at making bracelets, and I think we get along

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just fine. Stephen Colbert said, Hey, there, how you doing.

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If you watch the show regularly, I'm guessing you're not

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doing great? Yeah? Me neither. Some people said to me, sorry,

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you have to do a show tonight, which is nice

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for them to say, but I don't have to do

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a show. I get to do a show. They'll be

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jokes because it's what we do. And I'll let you

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in down a little secret. No one gets into this

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business because everything in their life worked out great. So

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we're built for rough roads, you guys ready. Seth Meyer said,

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I don't think Donald Trump's a good person. I'll even

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go as far as saying he's a bad person. On

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my defense, I'm only basing that on everything I've ever

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been taught about what makes someone good or bad. This

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is real and something I accept. Half the country thinks

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he's a good person or don't care that he's not,

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and thinks he's a good person and because of that,

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he's going to be our president again. Jimmy Fallon hacked joke. Well, guys,

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last night in America decided to get back with a

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crazy X and elect Donald Trump as the forty seventh

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president of the United States. No matter who you voted for,

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I think we can all agree that it's going to

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be a rough Thanksgiving. I assume there's a punch line

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in there somewhere. Kim Oll then the next night went

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on about Elon Musk and said, at least my children

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like me, which, again, I guess there's a joke in

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there somewhere. Now you probably just heard that segment and

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think you know who I voted for. You're wrong. Just

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from a comedy standpoint, I think it's off tone right now.

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Joe Rogan had on commie and libertarian Dave Smith, who

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does a political podcast of sorts. I like listening to

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all sorts of things, and I have a brain. I

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can listen to things. Whether it's Joe Rogan or Steven Colbert.

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They might have different takes on things, and I listen

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to things and sometimes I go, huh, interesting point, and

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other times I listen to things, and I go, that's

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crazy talk. Rogan has advice for Trump and said, this

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He's got to not attack the left and not attack everybody.

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time to unite everybody. Rogan said, it's Donald Trump as

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the messenger was so polarizing that people lost what's really

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going on just based on who this guy is. Just

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like Tony Hinchcliff is an insult comic, Donald Trump's entire

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career is you're fired. You're a loser. Rosie O'dnald's a loser.

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the most educated and eloquent and even keeled, and he

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was a statesman and the way he spoke inspired confidence

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that truly the wisest among us is the king. I

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Tim Dillon, or maybe a different one. But he pointed

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Rogan pointed out Obama was the sitting president and went

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to Mark Maron's garage. Jay Leno thinks the election was

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a great day for democracy. The nice thing about the

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election is it was fair, was honest. I was not

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a fan, but that's okay. It's the president of the

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United States. Let's all get together, thank you very much.

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In his view, the election was done professionally, there was

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no cheating. Everybody says it was honest. I mean, it's

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a great day for democracy. In my day, you kind

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the comedy there, Leno said, you'd get angry letters from

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both sides. Now you kind of have to take a side.

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And yet it's a little bit different. Dad Letterman's social account,

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it's unclear if David Letterman himself handles it. It's unclear

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if David Letterman approves these things, but David Letterman's Instagram

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just hours after Trump was declared the victor. Anyway, back

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to the future of the musical. It's really good. You know,

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this one got overshadowed the three to one to two

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Comedy Festival in Chicago, and they've got great artists. Note

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it's been going on since Wednesday, and I've talked about

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this during the week. Weird week to schedule things, guys

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and I did prep the show. It didn't come up.

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You got no Google results, and I forgot that this

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thing was going on. But tonight at the Chicago Theater

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at five o'clock Larry David Nate Jackson plays at seven

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at the Riviera. Ryan long As a show at Zany's

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at seven, Angelo Colleen at Park West at seven, Kevin

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Herrera at zany seven to fifteen, Mark Norman at the

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I don't want to read every show. It is a

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pretty big festival. But let's see what's interesting here. What's

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bot a swing? That sounds like a show that Trenmarcos

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him as a guest recently, Michelle Chan Bennett and Josh

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Nasser are Bobby Bingis and Tommy Laguini to nineteen sixties

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cruiters whose careers, livers and opinions have seen better days.

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That sounds like a good time. We're allowed to make

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fun of things again, right, Yes, we're not going to

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freak out. The Italian American Defamation Society's not going to

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showup because somebody did a character named Tommy Laguini. Right,

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I don't know. Maybe they are, And I think this

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is back to the vibe we used to be able

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to just get along and kind of have fun. Not

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everything has to be a big deal. It's a comedy show.

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Jimmy o Yang Carnegie Hall at seven o'clock. Awesome, Joe

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at seven, Sophie Duker at Union Hall at seven thirty,

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I'm asking you as if I'm not hosting the show.

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It doesn't actually say and it doesn't say who the

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friends are either. It's a little hard to you gotta

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tell me who's on the lineup, guys. Don't tell comedy

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at eight o'clock. What's the location? That's how don't tell

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comedy works. It's a secret indoor location. B Yob show.

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That's all we know. Sam Morrison and friend Sam is

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really good. That's the name you should know at the

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Little Field at eight. Sophie Buttle at Second City at

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eight thirty. A lot of shows to night. Believe me,

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I'm skipping a lot. I'm not reading the whole thing here.

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Jimmy Yang a second show at nine to forty five,

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Joe Kinbooster, second show at ten, the Mister Rogers Variety Hour.

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Oh that's tomorrow, all right, Well that's the Golffhanger. I

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don't know what it is. I almost clicked on it. We'll

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see what that is tomorrow, and I think it's time

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for me to go. If anyone is still listening, I

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probably lost everybody in the first half. What are you

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gonna do? I'm gonna leave you with this TikTok that

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somebody sent me. See tomorrow.

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is fun speak, Okay, so this is it. So you

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and so if you were lipstick, they get all over

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the lid. And so then I find myself in meetings

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if I'm the only woman, and that's kind of until

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I keep taking the lid off and having my cub

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I said, can we do something about the color of

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the lid. So that was that conversation.