June 2, 2025

They're still mad at Shane Gillis. Get over it!!!

Show Notes
Transcript

In this episode of Daily Comedy News, Johnny Mack discusses the latest in the comedy world, including criticism aimed at Shane Gillis for blaming Gen Z for his SNL monologue flop, highlights of a new travel guide to LA's comedy scene by OCO AT TKA, and a sneak peek at Rob Riggle’s upcoming memoir, 'Grit Spit and Never Quit.' The episode also features insights from W. Kamau Bell on ridiculing Trump, Brad Williams on overcoming bullying through comedy, and Jim Jeffries’ reflections on his career and upcoming role in a Jordan Peele film. Additionally, the return of 'Comics Unleashed' with Byron Allen on CBS and Hasan Minhaj's experience with a 'comedy audit' are covered.

01:07 Shane Gillis' SNL Monologue Controversy
02:19 Comedy Scene in LA
03:16 Rob Riggle's Upcoming Memoir
04:33 Kamau Bell on Ridiculing Trump
04:59 Brad Williams on Overcoming Bullying
05:55 Jim Jefferies on Being a Comedian
07:04 CBS's New Late Night Lineup
07:39 Hasan Minhaj's Comedy Audit

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Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your

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daily comedy news. But we've had a little run of

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what I'm describing as angry comedy articles, and I've had

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fun sharing them. Here's another one from Pajeeba. Seane Gillis

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blame gen Z for him bombing his SNL monologue. Andrew

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Sandford writes, you don't tell people you're performing for that

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you lost them, nor do you start making excuses if

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you do. The great and powerful Conan O'Brien talks about

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that all the time. He's mentioned that during his years

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as a talk show host, anytime a guest would turn

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to the audience says something the effect of this isn't

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going well or I lost you guys, it would signal

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the interview's death. Even if you think things aren't going well,

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you lead with confidence. You don't start blaming the audience.

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That doesn't strictly apply to being a late night talk

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show guest either. I was part of the New York

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City stand up scene for a bit, while that didn't

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end up working out. I've seen a lot of bad

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stand up. More often than not, when a comedian starts

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blaming the crowd for their poor performance makes things a

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million times worse. I've seen comedians whose whole act insists

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of intermittently telling the audience. I guess that was too

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much for you guys, or everyone here is so sensitive

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tonight it's bad form. I do agree with that, that

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is a good point, but we'll get to the Shane

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Gillis part. Shane perform a monologue about Trump wanted to

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buy Greenland and how white guys want to know if

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their girlfriends have slept with a black guy. Surprised it

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did not go over well. He then pivoted to a

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joke about the Civil War, and by that point the

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crowd was pretty checked out. Even commits the cardinal sin

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and jokes about losing the crowd, even when he hasn't

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fully lost them yet, it was bad to be even

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slightly fair. Of course, so likely mostly liberal New York

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City crowd wasn't going to go for Gillis's stick, but

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he should know that he should pivot. You don't have

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to change who you are, just tell more jokes that

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may work where you are. But Gillis doesn't take the

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blame for any of that, as he explained on a

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recent episode, of SmartLess. It's the young people's fault. He

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didn't do well, but it was not Shane Gillis's fault.

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You guys so much just of Sheen Killa. I don't

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get it. I think he's funny. It's got a goofy

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smile that telegraphs that he's just, you know, a guy

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shocking jokes. Just have a good time taking Toataro. We'll

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headline the twenty twenty five Eureka Springs Pride Festival coming

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up on June fourteenth, that's next Saturday. Already, ticket price

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has caught my eye, sixty eight fifty to one, sixty

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four to fifty. There's also VIP meet and greet tickets

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in case the one sixty four to fifty wasn't enough

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for you. The BBC, for some reason did a travel

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guy to la with Osco at Kotska. Somebody in London's like,

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h I want to go to La. I wonder what

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Oscar has to say. The part that catches my eye

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is about the comedy clubs. Osco says, the comedy scene

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in la is pretty diverse. We have everything for you.

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She suggests dipping your twos into the scene by visiting theaters,

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it's a little more artful than a comedy club. The

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allegioned theater is her recommendation. Meanwhile, Largo is her go

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to for music enthusiasts if you like seeing musicians who

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just like seeing celebrities trying out their new jokes for

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the first time, and Largo's a great place for that.

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Musicians joined the lineup so you can be watching stand

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up comedy the same night Beck is doing a set.

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She also recommends places you've heard of, like the Comedy

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Store in Hollywood Improv. As for the Comedy Store, it

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has a pretty diverse lineup in the audience is true

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comedy lovers. Meanwhile, the Hollywood Improv a list lineups are

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the norm, she says. The Comedy Store in Hollywood Improv

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are two places I perform at a lot. Those are

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places I really feel at home. I love that the

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place I'm working at feels like a second home. Rob

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Wriggle will have a memoir out this fall. It's called

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Grit Spit and Never Quit, a Marine's Guide to Comedy

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in Life. I worked with Wriggle a few times, really

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enjoyed his company. Just like a cool guy, you know

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what I mean. Wriggle tells People magazine, I hope people

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will be able to identify some of what I went

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through and it would be a service to them on

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their own journey. The book tells stories from his twenty

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three years in the Marines, plus his time in movies

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and TV. Rob says, I like to think of it

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as a motivational memoir. I hope people will be able

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to identify with some of what I went through and

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it would be of service to them on their own journey.

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Wriggle retired from the military in twenty thirteen as a

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lieutenant colonel. That's no joke, he says. They pushed me

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beyond my perceived limits. So whatever I thought it was

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capable of, the Marine said, actually you can do a

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whole lot more when pushed, and they were right, and

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it opened up my mind a lot too. If I

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could do that, maybe I can do this. I started

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to actually believe myself and say, you know what, I'm

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going to bet on myself and so that's when I

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finally got the courage to gopher it with regard to

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comedy and acting. So I give them Marine Corps especially

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a lot of credit for that. Wriggle learned the hard way.

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You need to embrace the suck and never give up

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if you want to get anywhere in life. The description

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concludes with he's jumped out of planes and he's become

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one of the most recognizable comedians in the country. But

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at his core, Rob was a regular guy from Kansas

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with grit, spit and the will to never quit. The

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Boston Gloto bast Come out Bell, is it harder to

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ridicule Trump now than it was during his first term?

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Come out and said you can still make fun of him.

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I joked that my New Year's resolution was to be

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more petty. Bell says, the president is still surrounded by

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bumbling fools, but they're bumbling fools that could turn us

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into North Korea West. That's not a joke. The reason

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to make fun of it is so we don't give

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all our power away to them. The more we can

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look them in the eye gives you the juice to

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figure out a way to go there and hopefully save

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the country. Send your letters to w pmal Bell. Brad

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Williams spoke to k e Yt. Brad was born with

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a chondroplasia. The primary feature of that is dwarf Ism.

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Brad found himself bullied at a young age and says

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his dad equipped him to handle it. Brad told k

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e Yt he and I would write comebacks together, would

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write retorts to common things he thought kids might say.

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And it was so great because when it happened, I

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wasn't hurt by it. I wasn't shock with it. I

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was just trained for this. Most of it isn't based

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in cruelty. Most of it's based in ignorance. Like a

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lot of discriminatory practices, a lot of people that don't

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like and don't accept certain types of people just haven't

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been exposed to those types of people. The first thing

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a lot of people notice. Sometimes people come up to

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me after a show and go, hey, man, thanks for

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talking about disability and difference. I get it. As for comedy,

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it's a positive effect on mental health for me personally

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because that's my therapy. That's how I get it out.

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And just to laugh, you're releasing these joy chemicals in

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your brain, serotonin, dopamine. You feel good about yourself, and

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if you have a physical ailment like a sort of

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Bruce drm, you go laugh a lot. You'll notice, hey,

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I'm not hurting right now. Jim Jeffries was talking about

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the iconic line from Paul Hogan's Crocodile Dundee, you know

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that's not a knife, that's a knife for that one.

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Jim said, that famous and iconic line by Hogan, to

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me is really what we're all about. There's a little

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bit of that Hogan line in all of us. I

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feel like when I travel on land at airports filling

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out the customs form, WHI says occupation I get to

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write comedian? How cool is that? You get to the

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desk and the guy behind it says, say you're a comedian?

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Are you? And they want you to tell a joke.

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But I'm like, if you had just told fourteen year

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old me that one day I'd be writing comedian on

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my customs form, what a blessing. Jim said, there were

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world class comedians who rarely for got to perform outside

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of Australia because it was too much of a hassle.

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It takes all those years to conquer Australia, so why

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would you bother going to another country these in the

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days before say streaming platforms. I just consider myself a

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lucky man who's got a few opportunities. I had a

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lot of luck in my career and I took advantage

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of it. He has a small role in the Jordan

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Peel sports horror film Him, which will be out in September.

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Jim says, it's a couple of scenes. I haven't seen

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the movie yet, but when we were making it, I

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knew it was going to be awesome and the trailer

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for it was killer. The film is about American football,

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so it'll come out once the NFL season begins. But

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Stand Up will always remain my first job. It allows

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me to control my destiny and pick where I get

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to go. CBS announced what's taking over the Taylor Tomlinson

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twelve thirty seven slot, and it is Comics Unleashed with

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Byron Allen. Comics Unleased had aired in that time slot,

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filling the four month gap between the end of Cordon's

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show and the premiere of After Midnight. CBS will air

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two episodes of Comics Unleashed back to back each night.

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In twenty twenty three, the run on CBS consisted of

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reruns and never before seen episodes, all of which were

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shot prior to twenty twenty three. The belief in the

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trades and on social media is that these will be

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older episodes as well, So don't get too excited about

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comics Unleashed. Hassan Minhaj during that Hollywood Reporter Comics roundtable

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I've been picking away at talked about I remember when

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we thought he was going to get the Daily Show

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and then didn't because people looked at his comedy special.

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Remember that happened, Hassan Sai. Yeah, I had to go

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through a comedy audit by Turbotext, which is its own thing.

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Make sure you file everybody, bring your receipts. But also

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there's a critique aspect to it that's very new. One

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of the first jokes that came to me was when

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I called a buddy and I was like, how bad

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is it? And he was like, the article's bad, but

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the photos are good. I was like, that's hilarious. It's

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also very funny to fail so bad that you bring

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back Jon Stewart. That is your comedy news for today.

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