March 20, 2025

Who is the greatest Late Night host of this generation?

Show Notes
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On today's episode of Daily Comedy News, Johnny Mac shares Sam Morril's anecdote about Dave Attell's humility and humor. Nate Bargatze's humorous golf outing with Rory McIlroy, including funny mishaps and banter, is recounted. Johnny dives into the budding collaboration and friendly rivalry between Kevin Hart and Mike Epps regarding the 2025 WNBA All-Star event preparations. Also featuring highlights from interviews with Bill Burr on stereotypes about redheads, Tom Papa's take on modern news consumption, and Jennifer Coolidge's amusing Pete Davidson story. Discussion transitions to Brian Posehn's journey in comedy, Joe Piscopo's Frank Sinatra impression, and late night host legacies, with reflections on Conan O'Brien, Jon Stewart, Jimmy Kimmel, and others.

00:00 Sam Morril's Story about Dave Attell
00:47 Nate Bargatze's Golf Adventure
01:50 Bill Burr's Hair and Hollywood Experiences
02:33 Kevin Hart and Mike Epps on WNBA All-Star 2025
04:47 Tom Papa on News and Public Behavior
05:28 Jennifer Coolidge's Encounter with Pete Davidson
06:02 Brian Posehn on Finding His Comedy Voice
06:27 Joe Piscopo's Frank Sinatra Impression
07:22 Late Night Hosts Discussion

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Callaroga Shark Media at the home Johnny Mack with your

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Daily Comedy News. Sam Morrell sold the story to WAMC

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about Dave Attell, who's one of Sam's favorite comics ever,

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if not his favorite comic of all time. Sam remembers

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opening for a Tell a long time ago at Terrytown

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Music Hall and Dave would bring me out on stage.

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You know, it's so intimidate and go out there and

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riffle them at the end, because you literally feel like

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you're up there with Obi Wan Kenobi. Like nothing he

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say is going to be as good. But I remember

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we're driving back in the car, like he's the only

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one who doesn't realize he's great, Like every comic thinks

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he's great, and obviously so many fans. But we're driving

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a car back and he was like, I'm a hack.

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I suck And I was like, dude, we all think

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you're the best, and he goes, well, I'm better than

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you guys. The PGA Tour Instagram account has been sharing

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photos and videos of Nate Brigetzi out on the golf course.

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Nate said, this is how the pros do it. They

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unpackaged the glove on the first tee, I just bought

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these gloves this morning. He gave the empty glove package

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to Rory McElroy and asked Rory to hold my trash.

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Nate teed up for the first soult and said it

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should be said that I was asleep twenty minutes ago.

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In the next video, Nate asked Rory McElroy what times

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you get down here. Rory says five forty five am.

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Warm went off at five. Nate couldn't believe it and said, oh,

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but tomorrow you have like a one pm. Rory said, yeah,

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late tea time. Yeah, Nate could have done a late

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tea time today, but no, he chose with me. He goes,

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let's do seven ten am. I was like, why can't

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I come on with you tomorrow to the tournament at Won.

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So they'd see off. They hedge their balls and it

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turns out Nate was in the bunker. Nate says, I'll

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be honest with you, that one might not be mine.

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It says Nate Brighetzi, but there could have been another.

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Nate hits the ball again. It winds up to the

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next bunker and he chokes him. Keeping the fairwayes pristine

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for the tournament tomorrow. The filmer asked Nate how many

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warm up swings did you have? Nate said, I mean

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you saw the first swing, so that was it. There's

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never a warm up, to be honest. Terry grow said

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that great interview with Bill Burr last week. Bill talked

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about his hair and said, the greatest thing I ever

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had at me. So I went ball for my acting

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career because then I shaved my head. Look a psycho

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idiot that I am back in the day when I

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actually had hair. You know, Hollywood, you know they talk

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about you just racism is sexism. It goes beyond that.

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Like they even divide up redheads. They were like rules

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about redheads. I was in the redhead drawer. Okay, I

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was in the Opie Ron Howard Howdy duty drawer, Brooks Laine.

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I didn't get the gun, I didn't win the fight.

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I didn't get the girl. I was a mugging victim.

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I was just there for the cool guy. And I

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was saying I used to do joking my act, like

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I'm not the hero of the action movie. Like I

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was the nerd in the van when Tom Cruise is going,

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you gotta give me more time and I would be

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in front of the keyboard. All right, I'll try click click, click,

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and you know you could totally see Bill Burr in

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the Simon peg roll. All right, what's going on with

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Kevin Hart and Mike Epps. Kevin Hort's entertainment production company

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is planning for the w NBA All Star twenty twenty

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five events that will be in Indianapolis. President and CEO

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of Heartbeat Entertainment Kevin Hart told the Breakfast Club radio show,

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it's an opportunity for our company. Our company is a

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creative engine for any resource that allows us to beat

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the pacers. We'll use that as an example once we

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do it well, and from that example, I'll go to

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other fing NBA teams or the NBA in general and'll

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be like, I'm looking to be a better partner for

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the NBA. How do we better tell stories for your brand?

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How do we better promote market you? How can we

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amplify and activate differently? These are words in the business

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the companies desperately want to hear from potential partners. Now.

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A few days earlier, Mike Epps had been on the

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Breakfast Club. They asked him about the Kevin Hart deal.

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Epseid he should have called me hmm. You see, Mike

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Epps had a high profile during the twenty twenty five

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NBA All Star Weekend, which Indianapolis hostedpset, it's politics. There's

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a lot of times people that are not in business

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like comedy, or people who aren't in the rap game

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that run entities. They don't know. They think me and

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Kevin are sitting in the backyard drinking iced tea together.

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So you really can't get upset about it. It's enough

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for everybody. Kevin's put on enough young comics and people,

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so I don't get slighted about it. Kevin Hart is

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stressing that his company will run the show in Indianapolis,

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not Kevin Hart, the seventy six ers fan, or it said,

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it's not a Kevin Hart thing. Everybody as seems that

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Kevin Hart is the driving factor of the source. It's

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the entity. The entity has to do things outside of

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me for an entity to thrive, that's a fact. Whether

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it's the Pacers, I got business with the Falcons, I

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got business with the Eagles. Our business thrives when we

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can implement ourselves in places to create where elevant to

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brand a company, an entity and activation, whether it be

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live entertainment, storytelling, at etc. Will Heartbeat reach out to

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Mike Apps, Kevin Hart said, absolutely, if All Star Weekend's

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coming up and we're like, okay, we have ideas to

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serve a bigger process that people can probably gravitate towards

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a little different from when they done in the past. Absolutely,

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does Mike want to bring in and be responsible for

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comedy from Indiana. Absolutely, that's where you tap in. All

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we at Heartbeat are servicing the hub. We're the hub. Now.

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It's our jobs go and grab everybody and make this

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thing underneath our hub better. You desperately need that. So

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in this case, hell yeah, Mike. Come on, Mike. By

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the way, this is your city. What's dope about the

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city that we can do with you? What do you

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want to do? How do we help you? That's partnership

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right now. The priority between me and Mike is figuring

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out the thing we're going to do together. And I

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think now having that as a priority, his fans will

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be happy. My fans, I think will be happy. I

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think it'd be dope for the culture when we do it.

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Tom Poppa talk to Seattle Magazine the subject of the news.

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Tom Papas said, here's the big stuff we can't get

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away from. Like you just want to look at your

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phone for something fun and you're innundated with bad news.

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Your friends are now your news source. Even if you

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swore off the news, your friends will pop up and

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tell you. It's like all my friends have become wolf Blitzer.

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And there's small stuff like people watching videos on their

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phones in public without any kind of ear butter headphones.

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Oh yeah, we need to throw pies at those people.

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I still can't believe somebody will stand an introm new

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boarding a plane and watch a video on full volume

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Pies everybody. We need to throw pies, you know, like

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soft shaving cream pies on a paper plate. I don't want

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to injure anybody, but people need to get a message here.

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Airports are even making announcements about it now, and you

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know the bad behavior has gotten worse when they start

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to include it in the run down before takeoff. Jennifer

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Coolidge told the story about Pete Davidson, two people they

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work together during the filming of Riff Raff. Jennifer said,

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I remember one day was freezing and I was on

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a house where filmed, and then this Rolls Royce bulls

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up and I was like, who's that. It must be

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the owner of the house, right, and it's Pete Davidson

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in his Rolls Royce. The car didn't quite go with

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the neighborhood or any of the experience. But then I thought,

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he's doing his own thing. I was never as interesting

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as that, you know, showing up at a Rolls Royce

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in the middle of winter at some job. It's a

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very fancy car to roll up in the dead of winter.

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You can't tonight. It's a crafty way for the young

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comedian to impress the star studied ensemble. There's everything wrong

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with the person doing their own thing and traveling around

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in style. Brian posain teld The Sonoma's Son. In comedy,

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it takes a while to find your own voice. You

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start out acting like other comedians. The comedians I love,

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which Steve Martin and Robin Williams. I'd listen to the

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records stand up recorded right across the bridge in San Francisco.

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They were my comedians, connected and local, using references that

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I understood that it became obsessed with all the eighties movies,

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the Sebastiani Theater in Sonoma, where Brian was playing was different.

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Then the same movie would stay in the theater for weeks,

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and I'd go watch them all more than once. Late

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Nighter was excerpting from Joe Piskovo's book, in which Joe

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Piscopal tells a story about his Frank Sinatra impression. Joe explains,

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I'd record Sinatra from TV on a VHS tape, then

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I'd record the audio onto a cassette tape. Between the

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video and the audio at my source material, I'd drive

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around in my Ford Fairmont great detail there, listening to

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the cassette and repeating it over and over. When you

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do that, you just start to catch it or you don't.

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It was trial and error. Piscopo points out that Sinatra's

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accentes Hoboken, North Jersey, which is distinct from the rest

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of Jersey. Joe said he'd loosen it up a little

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bit and make it a little more stre Eventually, Joe

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winds up at SNL they want him to do the impression.

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Joe sen Sinatra letter that said something like this, mister Sinatra,

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I send this with the greatest of respect. You're my hero,

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like my father's my hero. He told me you're the

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number one entertainer of all time. I mean no offense

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when I do the impersonations. They're done with complete respect,

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first and foremost. If you find them would be offensive anyway,

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I'll cease it and assist immediately. Joe said he never

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heard anything. All right, this is cool And starting tomorrow,

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Vulture has a show called Guaranteed, a new bi weekly

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Mandal and Skyler Higley. Nice lineup tomorrow. The first show

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Emily Catalano, she was on this very program, naomiic Peragin, Yes,

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Heer Lester, and Robin Tran. A few weeks back in

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the Facebook group which is daily Comedy news podcast group,

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one of the main crew over there, Dylan posted question

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for both of you, the other person being Mike Chishom

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from the Letterman podcast. Of the group of the late

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night host since ledone Letterman who be remembered as the best.

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I think it's Conan or John Stewart. I was busy

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that particular day and said, you know, I'm gonna hold

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this in cycle. Back to it when I have a

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minute to think. Mike from the Letterman podcast wrote to me,

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Conan was really the third man in and he is

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a different place in history than Strike Force five does.

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He's in a league with Letterman Carson as far as

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I'm concerned, Yeah, I feel the same way. You know,

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clearly Conan taking over for Letterman and Letterman going to

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eleven thirty. So there's the Johnny Carson generation. You know,

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if you want to throw Decavot in there, if you

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wanna throw or Senio shooting Star show in there, you could. Uh,

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then there's Letterman leto and Conan's at twelve thirty there.

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But I feel like Conan is a half generation later,

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Like if we were seniors, he's a freshman, So I

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would kind of put him in his own generation. As

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for the current group, Mike wrote, Colbert has a classiness

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about him that I think will only deepen with longevity.

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Kimmel has a case because his tenure and resume alone.

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Colbert host at a phone news talk show and morphed into

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late night talk show guy John Stewart. Wait from late

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night talk show guy to a fake newsguy. That's really interesting.

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Fallon is and always will be a quandary to me.

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He's got massive talent and a big following who love

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what he does, and a bigger following who loves what

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he does in small doses? Is he the best at that?

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Now the cordon's gone, He's the clear winner of the

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viral video portal of late night? But does that make

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him the best host? Good thoughts for Mike. So the

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question here is who will be remembered the best? So

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if he asked me which is my favorite late night

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talk show? I think I would answer Jimmy Kimmel. And

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I don't think I've ever actually watched an episode of

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Jimmy Kimmel on a television. I've seen tons of clips

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and I like what Jimmy's about, But I do feel

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he's like somebody who makes the Baseball Hall of Fame

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because they play twenty three seasons. I'm not sure what

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Jimmy's signature moment is. Is it hosting the Oscars? So

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I don't know. I feel like he's gonna put up

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the stats and make the late night Hall of Fame.

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But I don't know. Colbert, I don't know. I'm not

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feeling it. I know he's winning the Late Night Wars Fallin.

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I've worked with Jimmy a couple of times. I never

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encountered the Jimmy that some of the rumors were bad.

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I found a nice guy. I think he's immensely talented.

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I think he understands what hosting the Tonight Show in

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twenty twenty five is, and the game and the gimmicks

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and the social media clips. I think he understands the mission.

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And maybe in another universe where he was unshackled the

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way Conan has been, maybe you could see what Jimmy

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Fallon can really do. But right now, based on the

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body of work, or we're going to look back at

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Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show. I mean, let's rank the Tonight

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Show hosts. What are we gonna do? And I'm winging

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this and you can send letters and tell me I'm

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an idiot. We're gonna go Carson, Steve Allen, Jack Parr,

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Jay Leno, Conan only because he only hosted it for

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five minutes and Fallon in sixth, right, So I don't

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know there. So I guess the answer is j Stewart

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and more. For John Stewart's original ten year rather than

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this coda that he's tacking on, And is the coda

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going to be one of those things where Aaron Rodgers

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played for the Jets. We'll see. I think the hope

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was that John would have a major impact on the

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election last year, and I'm not sure the show registered

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the way it had in the past. So if I

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had to answer John Stewart, I guess so that'd be

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my answer might not be the right answer. And you

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can always comment in the Facebook group, which is Daily

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Comedy News Podcast group. All Right, see you tomorrow.