Sept. 18, 2025
Andrew Santino confirms ‘Dave’ is dead, Gina Yashere's Charlie Kirk comments, and Vulture names comedy’s next stars
This episode was recorded prior to the news of Jimmy Kimmel being pulled by ABC. That story was covered in a bonus episode, which is the prior episode in this feed.
Andrew Santino confirms Dave is officially canceled. Gina Yashere sparks outrage over her comments on Charlie Kirk’s death. Vulture unveils its 2025 “Comedians You Should Know” list. Ricky Gervais deletes old tweets amid Emmy backlash. Plus: Stavros Halkias’ advice for young men, John Oliver trolls Jimmy Kimmel, Drew Lynch fans save a man’s life, and Jamie Lee Curtis opens up about Charlie Kirk to Marc Maron.
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Hey guys, it's John So let me do you straight here.
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I teach a class on Thursday morning. I'm out the
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door at six thirty in the morning, so I obviously
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already recorded Thursday's episode. Now. Last night, around seven pm Eastern,
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the Jimmy Kimmel story broke. In case you missed it,
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the episode before this one in the feed is a
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bonus episode of me reacting to the Kimmel news in
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the episode you're about to hear now, no Kimmel at all,
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I don't think, but definitely nothing about this story as
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it was already recorded, and candidly, I had already recorded
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Friday as well because Thursday is teaching day. But I
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will come back this afternoon Thursday afternoon with a bonus
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episode and catch up on the Kimmel News. But in
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the meantime, here's this Caalaroga Shark Media. Hi there, I'm
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Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news. I'll see if
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my voice holds out. I just recorded over an hour
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of the other show. I host Five Good News Stories,
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and this weekend we start five Good News Christmas Stories.
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I know it's September, but five Good News Christmas Stories
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does really well, so if you're not hip to that,
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I host to show five good news stories. It's five stories,
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all of them. Good news comes out four times a week,
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and as we're closer to Christmas, more and more Christmas
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stories if you want to check that out. It is
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a very busy week for comedy. So I had mixed
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emotions when Vulture released their twenty twenty five list of
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comedians you should and will know. This is a very
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important list, and candidly I get a lot of content
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from it, but I don't need the content this week.
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So I'm just going to tell you that this exists
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and start to talk about it, and I'll dive in
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as the days go on. Vulture writes this year's list
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features comedians who approach their craft from a wide variety
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of perspectives, Originally hailing from places as disparate as Lebanon
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and Estonia to various US cities. They specialize in musical comedy, clowning,
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which is very underrated and I'm not being sarcastic there,
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pitch perfect parodies of nuances of TikTok, and interrogating politicians.
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Vulture explains to make the list, they reached out to
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over two hundred of the top taste makers and gatekeepers
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in the country, including comedy club bookers, production company executives,
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major network talent scouts, streaming service curators, comedy record label owners,
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and they asked them what comedians make them excited about
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going to work each morning. This is always a great list.
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It's always on point, and I'm recording a podcast in
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the basement. But you know, I did spend a decade
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plus as serious. I never ran into anyone who was
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part of this list, so I don't know who the
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two hundred taste makers are. That's not a shot at Vulture.
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I'm just like, I've never met anyone who's been part
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of this list, just mathematically I should have. And again,
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that's not a digd Vulture because the list is really good.
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This year's comedians are Natalie Alcar, Tessa Bell, Comedian CP,
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Rachel Coster, Esther Fhallck, Jimmy Falley, and Kira O'Sullivan as One, comedian,
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Adam Friedland, Adam Gilbert, Zanab Johnson, ray lao, Ismail Lufti,
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Juliette Massley, Taylor Ortega, Eric Rayhill, and Meets a Raw,
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Paris Sasche, Saheb Singh, Derek Stroup, Joe Sunday, and Jacob Boisak.
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Now what's interesting is some of these folks have been
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around for a while. When I saw the list, it
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was like, oh, I will spotlight this on the show
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I host on the Live One app, which is called
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the Weekly Comedy Thing, And the app is Live one.
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The app is free, the show is free. It's like this,
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except I can actually play clips from comedians because of
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you know, how royalties work. I can't really do that
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on the podcast. But like somebody like Paris Sachet has
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been around for ten years. She's got an album in
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the system for twenty sixteen. But most of these people
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did not have anything released on digital that was available
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for play. I just found that curious. So they're really
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new faces, which is great and a great job out
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of Vulture there. Variety had done that big piece with
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Andrew Santino, a lot of interesting stuff in there, and
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just you know, with the Emmys and everything, there was
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other stuff to talk about it for a couple of days,
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but we learn learned that the sitcom Dave, which started
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Little Dicky, is not coming back. Santino said, that's not
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on pause. That thing is gone. I don't even know
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why the narrative is out there. It's not true. We're
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not doing the show. I think people said it was
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on pause to protect the relationship of the show. Well
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that's all nonsense. The show's done. We're all going on
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our own way and doing our own thing. It was
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a great run and we all enjoyed it very much.
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It ran its beautiful little course and that was a
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wonderful moment in time. I'm happy I was part of it.
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But no, world, do I think the show would ever
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come back. Sounds a little feisty there. I wonder what's
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going on behind the scenes. So he was asked, was
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it FX's decision to end it? Now, listen to this answer.
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I was a hired gun that was between Dave Birrd
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Jeff Schaffer in FX. I had no power over what
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was happening. I kind of found out when everybody else
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went out that it wasn't coming back. But people saying,
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perhaps will pause it and come back. I know better.
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Dad left to get cigarettes. He's not coming home. Sounds
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like it sounds like there was strife or he's annoyed
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or something sideways there, right, GQ did that profile at
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Stavros Halkias, where the whole thing was about like being
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manly man and man and man stuff and man and
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being a man and be a man and manly. Such
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a q aske Stavros, What are the most important things
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we need to teach young men in these formative years?
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Stavros said, I guess the lessons are twofold. First of all,
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you're not a piece of crap for laughing at messed
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up stuff. I quite cleaned that sentence up. Those things
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are funny. We're not going to pretend they're not funny,
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but understand they're just jokes and it shouldn't be the
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way you treat other people in society. And then become
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the best version of yourself. For me, that's really the
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biggest lesson, right. It sounds so boring to say, be yourself,
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but guess what. Some of you aren't gonna get jacked,
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some of you aren't gonna be crypto billionaires. They dropped
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a couple f's in that sentence. The way out of
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being an incel is understanding you can be a loser.
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You don't have to be the exact ideal, be the
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ideal version of you, even at your worst there's more
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people in the world that would want to have sex
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with you than you'll ever be able to have sex with.
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I'm quite cleaning this up. Truly, they're out there, you
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just have to find them. The quickest way out of
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being an inceel being a nice, good hang that cares
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about other people, is empathetic. I promise you in the
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long run, you'll have better results that way, by being
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yourself and being nice and putting yourself out there. That's
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pretty good advice. He goes on to say the time
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I had the most successful with women, I was five seven,
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three hundred and fifty pounds. You know what I mean.
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I was in horrible shape, but I did believe in myself,
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and now I'm trying to get that together. It's about
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constant growth and it's about always improving yourself. But that's
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the way out of being an incel. You do have
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to hold yourself accountable, but don't blame other people. Don't
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complain if you're not trying to find a solution. I
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think that's literally an Ornold Schwarzenegger thing. I think that's
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the lesson I would give to them, because if I
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can do it, brother, you can do it too. I
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was twenty two, I'd hooked up with one girl as fat, bald, broke,
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living at all with my parents, and I turned it
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all around. You can turn it around too. Giqi was
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curious they couldn't just let this go? Who tell you that?
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Who tell you how to be a man? Starfro said,
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I said it, but bleeping Arnold Schwarzenegger. Action movies, sports movies.
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You know what I mean? As corney as it sounds,
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sports are big for me, Rocky the Underdog Story. Obviously
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my father had male role models or whatever. But I
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think sometimes their dads can give these incomplete versions of
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what it means to be a guy, and maybe sometimes
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you can learn off their mistakes a lot lot more there.
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All right, we gotta talk about the Emmys a little
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bit more. Remember the other night, Hannah Einbinder said, f
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ice and free Palestine. Well. On Twitter, Ricky Gervase posted
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a throwback to his Golden Globes monologue back in twenty twenty.
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He made some comments. Jervase had said back then, if
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you do win an award tonight, don't use it as
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a political platform to make a political speech. You're in
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no position to lecture of the public about anything. You
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know nothing about the real world. Most of you spent
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less time in school than Greta Tunberg. Well, Ricky has
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removed that from his Twitter account. Critics claimed he had
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rethought his intervention in the context of the War of Gaza.
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Jervase also unshared a post that directly commented on Einbinder's remarks.
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So what happened was during a backstage Emmy's press conference.
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Einbinder said she had an obligation as a Jewish person
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to distinguish Jews from the state of Israel. Responding to
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a video of the comments posted by Variety, one Twitter
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user cited another quote from Ricky Gervais's monologue, in which
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Jervase had said it back in twenty twenty, if Isis
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started a streaming service, you'd call your agent, wouldn't you.
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Gervais retweeted the comment, but on Tuesday remove the tweet.
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He has, however, shared old bost about his Globes monologue,
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including a video clip posted in August that contains the
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don't use it as a political platform to make a
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political speech rant. We'll see if Ricky comments some more
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about what is in the spirit of his social media actions.
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This week, Vulture wrote about Nate Brighetzi and said, reference
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award show host is not a natural position for a
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comic with Nates everyman persona. He's the type of comic
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who jokes about loving McDonald's and Walmart, and his down
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earth affect clashes with the unrelatability and self indulgence of
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an award show. Even if he were to uncritically lord
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over the proceedings, he's incapable of communicating a genuine belief
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that award recipients are deserving of all this pomp and circumstance.
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Another comedian Burghatzy's position might embrace this that use their
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outsider status to their advantage to deliver monologue jokes that
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poke at the ceremonies artifice, or make political jokes that
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can textualize its insular nature. But these also aren't Burghetzi
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strengths in his stand up the closest he gets to
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compativeness on stage by recounting confusing interactions he's had with
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his wife for customer service people he doesn't even curse.
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He avoids talking politics unless it's a joke about how
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little he understands it, and his jokes rarely take the
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form of traditional setup punchline one liners, so where his
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opening sketch might have traditionally given way to stand up
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monologue burgets, he opted to forgo it and cut straight
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to his logistical duties as master of Ceremonies. He devised
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a plan to keep the show running on time. We've
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discussed that, Vultre says. Every time the show cut back
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to Nata's host, he made a point to crack a
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joka too about the current donation total, which quickly grew
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one note. Even the jokes forgets he made to introduce presenters,
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some of which were well crafted, like when he put
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on a denim tuxedo and pretended to forget why then
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introduced Sidney Sweeney, failed to land because the donation total
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bit sucked up so much airtime I was watching. I
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noted that he was wearing a denim tuxedo, I heard
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him talk about it, and then I didn't even make
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the connection to the Sydney Sweeney thing. I don't think
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he nailed that at all. I mean, seems like a
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nice guy, but not a good job as Emmy's host. Sorry.
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John Oliver was the guest on Jimmy Kimmel Live. They
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were both happy that Stephen Colbert won. Oliver told Kimmel,
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it was great. We're all very happy. You know. We
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wanted him to win. The right thing to happen was
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for him to win. But the funniest thing to happen
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would have been if you, Jimmy Kimmel had won. Kimmel
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laughed and said right. Oliver continued, most of me wanted
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him to win. A part of me, the part of
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me that I like more, just wanted to see your
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face go oh no. Kimmel revealed there was a moment
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when he thought that it was possible. He said one
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of the drivers for one of the writers wasn't watching
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the show and went on Chat GPT or something and
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said who won the talk show Emmy, And for whatever reason,
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Chat said we won, and they texted it to us
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and I'm like, this is not right obviously, and then
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I was like, oh no, do they know something? And
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a disaster. Oliver found that funny going. You would have
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been so bleaped. He had his whole staff there with him.
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You would have been booed onto the stage, maybe stoned.
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Why do you have to ruin everything. The first ever
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cut away and the winner is Jimmy Kimmel. No Oh,
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that's funny. Gossip Conna, Spoons in the street, Gossip Conna, Bobby, Bobby,
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Gossip Conna where them is meeting with Johnny Mac. It's
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ay's a tree. Let's enjoy Gossip Corner and the fun song.
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Because the podcast after these next two stories is going
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to get a little serious, so we'll start with Nick Kroll.
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He's on Instagram. He's out for Vietnamese food in Vancouver.
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