Sept. 24, 2025
Andrew Santino on ditching Hollywood, Kevin Hart goes global, and JC Penney tells jokes with Shaq
Andrew Santino says comics are done begging Hollywood for approval. Gianmarco Soresi talks about his writing process and audition fails. Cristella Alonzo teases a new series. Chris Fleming roasts his fans. JC Penney gets into the comedy game. Plus: Kevin Hart hits Australia, Shane Gillis meets a crypto bro, and more.
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Callarogas Shark Media. Hello again, I'm Johnny Mac with the
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normal episode for Wednesday, September twenty fourth. Jimmy Kimmel returned
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to the airwaves last night, and I will do a
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bonus episode separating out the Kimmel stuff some other stuff
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on the feed that I hope you checked out. Yesterday,
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around noon, I dropped an episode with Mark Malkoff. He's
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the host of the Inside Late Night podcast, the host
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of the Carson Podcast, and the author of the new
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book Love Johnny Carson. We had a great convo about
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Carson and all things late night. Later today at noon Eastern,
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Jason Zinoman from the New York Times and I had
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a very spirited discussion about We started about the re
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Odd Comedy Festival, which I may or may not be
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pronouncing incorrectly, as I learned, who knows. We talked about
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whatever that festival is called. We also got quite into
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the Colbert and Kimmel of it all, and then some
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other comedy stuff on the end. So at noon today
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really my favavorite episode I've ever done with Jason Zenman
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from the New York Times. And then later in the
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afternoon I'll do the Kimmel bonus so that I can
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pull together all the clips and everybody's reaction and then
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we'll take it from there. All right, here is the
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normal episode for Wednesday. You know what I'm feeling bad
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for our comedians. You should and will know that got buried.
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I mean talk about comedy being timing. Oops, I mean
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that just that got lost. I want to talk about
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those people, but I cannot find the time. Let's talk
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about Caleb here, And apparently I like his interviews better
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than I liked his special He was speaking with Autostraddle.
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Caleb said, I think our national conversation about so many
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things is lacking. And one thing that I think is
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really unfortunate is that conversations around queerness specifically really veered
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into this precious object's territory, where we were incorrectly made
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out to be the sensitive, precious people. It's just not
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really reality. I hope we are, and he qualifies queer
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and trans people and our allies and people don't understand
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us yet but will at some point. I hope we're
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moving towards a conversation that's less about policing and being
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sensitive and treating us different and special and holding us
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up and just going like, no, we actually just want
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you to treat us like your neighbors. We actually just
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want to be joked around with. We have the same
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wants and desires you have. We want to make a
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living wage and take care of our families and have
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a good time. And I think it's so unfortunate the
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conversation has drifted into this psychotic the about trans people,
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apparently one of his go to quotes. I shared this
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one yesterday. This is a different interview, I think, but
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he said, my favorite trait guyes out right now are
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conservative Republicans. I don't care. I love them. He pointed
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out the ridiculousness of men like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson,
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Vice President Jade Vance, and Florida Governor Rond Dea Santis
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worrying about masculinity and scapegoating trans people while wearing little
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boat's eyes and so much mascara just to be compelling
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and having the vocal inflections of somebody's seen do share.
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At Hamburger Mary's Marioki, he was asked, who do you mean?
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He said, I'm not seeding home to anybody. I'm not
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scared of these mffors. I'm from this place just as
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much as anybody else is, and don't get to tell
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me we're something that we're not, or that we don't
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belong where we're from, because we do. Model Comedian is
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now streaming on HBO. Max Andrew Santino had caught up
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with Variety. I was telling you about that before all
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this Kimmel stuff started. I like what Santino said here.
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A lot of us want to feel more free, so
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we're doing our own thing. A lot of people are
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making significantly more money doing their own thing. They going
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down the traditional studio route. It took us a long
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time to realize these guys were robbing us. They were
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getting all the money, and we were working really hard,
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and they were giving us what we thought we deserved.
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We realized if we just made our own world and
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not beholding to someone else's idea over what we deserved,
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we can build our own audience and make our own future.
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I still love television and film. I hope to act again,
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I don't see it in my near future, and focusing
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on stand up and podcasting and creating my own world
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in the digital space. A lot of people you don't
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see in TV and film anymore. Because not a lot
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of stuff is being made in the comedy circuit in
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terms of big commercial comedy films, comedy television shows have
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kind of slid into the unknown. There's not a lot
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of opportunity unless you're one of Seth Rogan's friends and
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they can get on one of his fifty TV shows.
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Outside of that, it's a little different. It's a little
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bit harder. A lot of comedians, particularly, we're tired of
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playing this weird please love meet aim of the business.
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Instead they were like, we'll just go right to our
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audience and try to connect with them. Did you watch
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John Marcos sir Raizi's especially yet on YouTube. It's fantastic.
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I do have to give the edge to Maren who
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really brought it. But John Marco in a different year
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might be the number one special of the year. Good
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chance it'll be the number two. The New York Post said, hey,
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you've been somewhat known for crowd work. That's still a
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big part of your show. John Marco said, it's dependent
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on the layout of the space. If you're in a theater,
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the people in the back can't here. Still, I was
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trying to incorporate it to a certain degree. It makes
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it exciting for me. I hate doing the same thing
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over and over. I can't guarantee how much crowd work
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will be there. I can guarantee you'll be at least
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getting eighty percent of the material. Often find you could
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do crowd work for two minutes, and if it's great,
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the audience will got in their fix. They got to
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feel the part of something can only happen on this show,
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and that was risky. He got into the physicality of
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his act. He said, one time there was a New
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York comedy club booker who didn't pass me because they
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said I was to one man's show. I told my
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friends at the time, I can mumble, I can stand still. Honestly,
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I don't think I can. I'm able to deliver a lot,
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even if I go to Europe and the audience members
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don't fully understand all the jokes. They appreciate how animated
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I am. Now that I have the stage in time,
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I'm able to fuse being a one man show with
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someone who moves, with someone who uses the space with
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obsessive joke writing to deliver an elevated stand up experience.
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Talked about his process. I record every single set and
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put it into a transcription app. It allows me to
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look at the text and pick up at any point.
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I have three different word documents going. One is finished
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material that I look through, but usually that's all burnt.
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I keep it more as a library. The second is
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everything I'm working on right now, which I'm trying to consolidate.
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Then I have another that's one hundred and eighty pages
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of stray thoughts that aren't going anywhere. It's ultimately this
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gargantuan mess that will never be sorted out until I'm
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forced to do the next hour. Tell the story about
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auditioning for Orange is the New Black. The role I
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auditioned for was the lead singer of an all white
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roots cover band, just two lines. I did a lot
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of research and the audition went really well. On the
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way out, my manager at the time called and said
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bad news. They canceled the audition. They found an actual
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all white roots cover band, so they don't need the
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role anymore. Alazzo with the La Simes recently did a
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series called room Temperature as in no Ice shows to
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raise money for detained immigrants. At those shows, she handed
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out no your Rights cards. She explains my price point
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was thirty dollars a ticket. You don't think thirty dollars
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a lot of money, but when you group it with
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all these other people, we came up with tens of
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thousand dollars for a nonprofit. What's up next for her?
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She's working on a tour, which means I have to write.
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But you know, it's funny. I had a TV show.
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It was only one season, twenty two episodes. It was
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canceled in ten years ago, and there's not a day
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that goes by that people don't ask me about it.
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People always ask me if I do another TV show,
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And the truth is I never wanted to because when
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I had it, I was the first Latina to do whatever.
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And the problem that happens when you're that is that
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people don't know how to deal with it. Would basically
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have to picture culture and ask them for acceptance. But
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now I'm at the point where, having done Upperclassy and
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talking about where I am and really taking stock of
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where I am mentally in my approach to life, I
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think I'm actually ready to do another show that's based
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on the themes that I talk about in Upper Classy.
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I was talking to a network recently and I was like, look,
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I don't want to do a show about a single
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woman trying to navigate her life. Been there, done that.
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What if you actually explore somebody that's really really happy
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where they're at. What about a show with siblings? What
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about a show with something a little different? I wonder
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if that pitch worked. The Times of India is your
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home for comedy news. They reviewed Kevin Hart's show and Movebai.
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They tell us Kevin Hart's show included reflections on life,
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societal norms and personal growth. After India, Kevin was on
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his way to Australia to play Perth, Milbourne and Sydney.
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And of course if you want to see Kevin Hart,
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you will find him at the Riod Comedy Festival in
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Saudi Arabia. Look at Johnny Mack learning from mistakes. He
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actually put the Toronto Comedy Festival in the notes today?
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Did he bookmark the website? No? Look, he can't have everything,
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and he's gonna make you listen while he babbles while
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with one hand he types Toronto Comedy Festival. Yes he is,
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And why doesn't he make that edit? Because that's not fun.
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Tonight in Toronto, Ashwind sings seven o'clock Sabrino Woo seven o'clock.
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Did I say Montreal or did I say Toronto? I
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don't even remember. This is Toronto. Matthew Brissard nine thirty,
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the Monster Island Character Showcase at nine thirty, and a
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Hidden Gem show and Midnight Matti. Since the middle of
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the week, it will pick up on the weekend. You
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need something to do, well, go on the eight hundred
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pound Gerilla site. They've got Lewis Gornham's choosing the wrong
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story to tell. That's out today. Now apparently the Manila
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Times has a comedy section. They made my rovers and
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we learned that bark Metza, who's, as you know, the
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co founder of Digital Dogs Crypto, connected with comedian Shane
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Gillis to explore the intersection of digital communities, culture and comedy.
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That's right, Christian bark Metta Barker recently met with Shane
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Gillis at a private session in Austin. I can tell
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how excited Shane Gillis is about this because there was
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a picture of Shane with the guy. The guy also
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has pictures with some other famous people. Now, Shane didn't
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provide any quotes, so you know, he's clearly really into this.
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This isn't just some crypto bro ran into Shane Gillis
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and got a selfie and is really good at getting
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newspapers to write about you. In the Philippines, Mark Meta said,
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comedy thrives on connection and community. Crypto is building those
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same connections in new digital spaces. Meeting with Shane shows
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how these worlds are coming together. Uh huh. Chris Fleming
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caught up with the Stranger dot Com. Chris is fantastic
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and says in my Twilight ears, I have no interest
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in winning a crowd over. Chris is not that old.
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How old is Chris Fleming? Chris, you're thirty eight years old.
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You could be fifty six recording a podcast in your basement.
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You're still young and have so much future in front
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of you. You can tell I'm doing extra silly stories
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today because everything has been so serious. You know, if
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you want serious, listen to the bonus episodes. I just
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need to have some fun. Chris Fleming tells the Stranger
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dot Com and my twilight years of thirty six or
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whatever I just said two seconds ago, I have no
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interest in winning a crowd over at this particular show.
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Before I even grabbed the mic, somebody yelled, let's go
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weird now, see Chris says curly here like a younger
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weird all, and I was like, you know what f this.
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I'm gonna do two songs that you're gonna hate, so
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I don't have to hear. You gonna make the music
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so loud. I'm just gonna kind of stare at the
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lights so I don't have to engage. That's fantastic. H
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Chris as a Dane Cook bit and has Dane ever
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heard it? Yes, and he thinks it's funny. And I'm
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so relieved because Dane Cook. A lot of people say
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like a theater artist when he was starting out. He
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bought a theater icality to the stage that hadn't been
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done before. I'm not sure I got that word right.
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You do what up saying at the utmost respect for
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his stage work. Yeah, And we see that kind of
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physicality in Jennmorco SIASI and John Marco might be throwing
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his phone against the wall now that I compared to
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him Dane Cook, I don't know. And J. C. Penney
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is doing some comedy with Shaquille O'Neal. By the way,
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Shaq and Kevin Hart and those commercials, can you just
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