Sept. 25, 2025
Gianmarco Soresi discusses his new Youtube special Thief Of Joy
Gianmarco Soresi waited five minutes in Zoom purgatory to talk to John about Gianmarco's latest special, 'Thief of Joy,' which is available on YouTube.
Soresi discusses the technical difficulties experienced during the setup of the interview and the decision-making process behind releasing his special on YouTube instead of other platforms. He explains how this choice allows him full control over the timing and distribution of his material. GS emphasizes the importance of adapting his content for various social media platforms to reach different audiences. He also reflects on the evolution of his joke-writing, balancing between fast-paced comedy club material and more nuanced storytelling.
The conversation touches on the challenges of releasing a special in a constantly changing news cycle and handling topical material.
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Callaroga Shark Media.
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Hello again, I'm Johnny Mack. My guest today is John
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Marcos s Raisi his new special, Thief of Joy. You'll
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find it on YouTube. It is up there for best
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special of the year. It's right there with Maren. I
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love this special the more I think about it. So
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behind the scenes here John Marco was doing me a
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favor as he was traveling around. I'm friendly with his
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bubble System'm like, he got a couple of minutes, and
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he had a couple of minutes, but literally, he's in
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a car here, so I didn't use my usual setup,
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and this is phone quality.
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Now.
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The reason I'm bothering you with that is because the
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poor guy was in the virtual waiting room for five
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minutes while I'm bothering his publicist going hey, I don't
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like he's there yet, and then she's like, he's in
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the waiting room waiting for you to let him in.
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So then I let him in, and then I couldn't
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hear him, and I finally figured out what was wrong,
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and it was me that was wrong. So this guy
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who's having a moment is kind enough to talk to me,
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I make him wait for five minutes and then I
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make him wait for two more minutes as I figure
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out the tech. So John Marco, Sirasi, thank you so much,
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and I hope you come back again sometimes because I
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always liked talking to you. So all that is the
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preamble too, that I didn't go along here with him.
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I wanted to respect his time. I hit the questions
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I wanted to hit. Could I have talked to him
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about other things? Of course, of course, but by design
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I had five questions written down and we just flew
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through him. And here's in a car. John Marco, SIIESI.
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So I wanted to ask you on today. The real
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question I had you on is a sandbag question. Did
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you cancel Disney Plus? Or are you supporting fascisms?
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I think I've been using my girlfriend's sister accounts, so
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I am morally.
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Free of Eddie guilt. I'll tell her she should cancel it,
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and I hope she doesn't.
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No, no, we don't hope she doesn't because the parent company, Hulu,
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they're going to bring out money for Hulu specials.
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So we love.
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Disney, Yes, we love him.
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We love him.
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It's listen to These platforms are so good. It's they're
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doing good and bad, so we're kind of stuck. So
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I wanted to ask you why you went with YouTube
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and not the others. And then an hour before we
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were scheduled to talk, I saw the answer on a
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V club.
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They did a great profile with you. So I know
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the answer. But can you just tell everybody why did
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you pick YouTube?
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Yeah?
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I mean, listen, I'm not gonna I'm not going to
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pretend like everyone was like knocking down the door for
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the special. But the bottom line is like I needed
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to release it on my own time. And you know,
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a lot of these places they schedule stuff out far
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in advance, and I have so much material, I write
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so much, I have so much like new stuff that
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I wanted to move on to that when I was
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ready to pull the trigger, and and when we decided
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on the Allegian Theater, I was like, we just got
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to do it. We got to do it the next
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weekend available, which was February Valentine's Day, as my girlfriend
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likes to point out. And then when we were ready
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to have it released, you know, I just I just
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needed the control I needed to be able to release
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it on my own timeline, with my own touring schedule
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sooner than later because I had already found Oh, like
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I I kind of retired all the material and I
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want to report another special next year. So I was like,
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I was like, let's have the full control. I don't
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I don't want to have to run and buy additional people.
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Between my executive producers and me, I felt confident in
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the artistic integrity of the writing and the show. And
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then the bottom line, as I said in that AV
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Club article, is that I think we all know that
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traditional media has become shattered and broken and and and
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the audiences are everywhere. You know, there's there's audiences out
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there who don't know who Sebastin Menascalco is. He is
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the number one touring comedian two years ago, one year ago.
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And it's like, that's how fractured things are. And my
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goal as a business person, because I kind of see
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myself also as like the CEO of the company that
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is me, is I want my jokes in every corner
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of the Internet, in every corner that people get their
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entertainment from. And that isn't limited to one network. You know,
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some of these networks are surely very far reaching. Others, though,
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are not. Others others are cost prohibitive, others don't air
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in certain countries, and I want to be able to
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take the hour Special, which I want people to watch
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in full.
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I think I really was.
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Determined to make a piece designed to be watched in full. However,
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a lot of my joke writing has come at the
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time of the Internet, so I do write in a
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way in chunks that can become clips, and I want
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to be able to take my hour Special and break
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it up every which way.
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For every social media.
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Platform sex currently exist, that will exist, whether it's vertical, horizontal,
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or some new fucked up shape that will need to
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be made. Whether someone will make a video player that's
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in the shape of a star, I'll be ready to
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do it, and I'll do it on my board in
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my own rhythm that fits my career. And there may
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be there may be future times where I go, oh,
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going with a platform is worth it for the validation,
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whether it be self validation or public validation. But right now,
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my goal is to make my work known to the world,
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and I went with the avenue that let me control
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the material fully. So so if if if there's some
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airline in South Korea that is looking for comedy specials, Boom.
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I can. I can give it to them for.
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Free if I want to, in the hopes that I'll
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tour South Korea someday. If if, if I find out
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linked In is a good place to start posting flips, boom,
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I'll put it there.
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You know, people go to so many different places.
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I'll see something on an injure Imgur, which I've never
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visited on my own accord, but you'll see like someone
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makes a comic strip out of a joke there and
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it has ten million views, and I go, okay, I
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want those ten million people that use injure for their
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entertainment to know about me, and I hope that the
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goal ultimately is to see me live, and that when
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I come to your city, you want to pay the
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money to leave your house and trust me to entertain
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you for an hour or more.
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I'm happy here. You're working on another special. As I
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watched this thing, there are so many jokes. I'm going
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to say jokes per second because I don't want to
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get into the Dane Cook laughs per minute metric. But
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you literally subscribe to Bobo theory of you know, tell
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enough jokes in a minute, and some of them might land.
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And I don't mean that as a backhanded compliment because
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they land. My friend, like, oh my goodness, the amount
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of jokes that are just per minute laughing. I wrote
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a note as I was watching, and I'm like, he's
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got to have nothing left in the can because he's
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used so much material there. So you are prolific.
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I appreciate it.
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I mean, you know, some of these jokes, you know
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that they've evolved, but some of the some of the
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real bangers were cultivated when I was working at really really,
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really bad comedy clubs and your your sign just had
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to just explode or you would lose the audience. And
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in a way, I think there's this kind of dual
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there's two sides of it, where there's one version where
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you want to evolve out of that horrible comedy club
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space so you can share bigger thoughts, you can explore
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with more nuanced the same way.
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That, like, you know, if you.
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Listen to a story from an entertaining friend, you trust
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them and you will listen to the whole story, maybe
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get some more details.
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Well.
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At the same time, I do believe in that like
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Razor Sharp boom boom boom boom, boom. Have you worked
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on it so much that every sentence, if not two
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sentences pops. And I really try to I try to
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have both. I try to have my cake and eat
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it too. And I set bar for myself of like
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how funny a joke needs to be to stay in
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the act. And that's you know, like that that art
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surgery which I close about to spin about my dad's
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put up a bypass.
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You know those some of those jokes could be traced
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back to.
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Year what and they've evolved and I learned how to
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stack them and thread them in and incorporate them. But
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each one of those jokes, like I could, I could
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write a passage about the journey of those jokes. And
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and I really try to take both worlds of like
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the club comedy every time needs to pop, and the
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idea of wanting to weave a narrative and tell his
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story and really hold myself to account to combine them
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both at all times.
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I don't want an answer to this one because I
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don't want to ask the magician, you know, how to
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just sell the lady in a half. But there's a
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moment in the special where I was like, huh is
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he play acting. Is this a real moment? I couldn't tell,
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don't care, don't want to know, don't tell me. But
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as I was watching it too, I started to think
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about your physicality, and for maybe like two seconds, I
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was like, is this physicality help selling the material? And
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I quickly landed on no, you're just a physical performer.
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As we're recording this, you're in a car, even just
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speaking to some idiot with a podcast, You're very physical
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as you speak. Yes, So I don't think at all
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that the materials being propped up by the way you
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were moving around the stage using the physical space. I
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closed my eyes just to test this theory and the material.
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This thing is great, this special, and you're seeing the
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pressure getting everybody. What are you saying that this is
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a great special? So congratulations on this.
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Thank you. I feel really I feel really proud of it.
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You know.
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I think I when I was a little kid, I
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used to dance in the living room and I this
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is how either narcissistic or just entertainery I was. I
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told my parents, I was like, we need to get
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this living room onto a stage so people can watch
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me dance. And in a way, I feel like I've
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done that to a degree my physicality. It's really like
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how I how I I have trouble dancing at a wedding,
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but when everyone's looking at me, I feel like I
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come to life. And so I really at a certain
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a certain point, I was like, oh, yeah, the way
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that I want to move, I'm allowed.
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To do that on a stage.
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In fact, I've picked one of the only professions where
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I can just let my body naturally express itself. And
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I certainly, like in the last couple of years, have
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have challenged myself to like feel free, to to like
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have a physical body that naturally just moves along with However,
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I want to tell a joke without choreographic.
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Jen Marco's a specialist called Thief of Joy. It's on YouTube.
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More coming up.
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I was joking with your publicist, Now, as great as
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your comedic timing, is no one better your marketing timing.
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I'm gonna leave something to be questioned. You had that
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great Joe Biden chunk that you had to put out
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rather quickly because the new cycle changed, and then you
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go and your release one of the great specials of
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the year. You know, it's between you and Maren. I
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think at this point in the race for who we're
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going to give the award to, and you just decided
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to drop that, And then Jimmy Kimmel might have slightly
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