Aug. 10, 2025
Jimmy Fallon lets Jay Leno off the hook for 10 minutes
A chill summer Sunday of comedy news.. 00:19 Jason Zinoman's Insights on Comedy 01:23 Marc Maron's Podcast and Interviewing Style 03:37 Bill Burr's Podcast Appearance 05:07 TJ Miller's Beer Pong Challenge 05:56 Nish Kumar on Social Media and Comedy...
A chill summer Sunday of comedy news..
00:19 Jason Zinoman's Insights on Comedy
01:23 Marc Maron's Podcast and Interviewing Style
03:37 Bill Burr's Podcast Appearance
05:07 TJ Miller's Beer Pong Challenge
05:56 Nish Kumar on Social Media and Comedy
06:55 Sebastian Maniscalco's Tour Insights
07:27 Jimmy Fallon and Greg Gutfeld's Night Out
09:36 Gossip Corner: Tiffany Haddish and More
10:41 Comedy Festivals and Fringe Highlights
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Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Jenny Meck with your
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daily comedy news. Friend of the show, Jason Zinnemon, he
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writes for The New York Times. He was really writing
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about Mark Meron, but I was really interested in the
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Jason Zinneman part of the article. Jason wrote. When I
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got the job as the comedy columnist for The New
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York Times, I prepared by talking to people in the industry,
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reading as many books as I could, attending myriad shows,
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and listening to every episode of Maren's podcast. Spending time
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with him was by far the most useful. Now, I'll
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jump in there, I personally have taken a different route,
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going all the way back to when I first started
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running comedy for serious satellite radio twenty years ago. Now, wow,
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I pretty quickly decided to take an eye level approach,
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so to talk more. In modern parlance, say more Jim
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Gaffigan and less I don't know, so will say one
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of the new faces or somebody who's lesser known. And
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that approach informed how I programmed the comedy channels back
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in the day with more of a hits format. Back
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in the day, it was Dane Cook and Jeff Dunham
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were super popular, and then along the way you bring
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the audience along by sprinkling in newer faces. And that's
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how I try and handle this show. If you listen
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every day, you'll hear how it's structured. And I always
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try to lead with names. What we're in the middle
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of now ostensibly is a Mark Maron story. He's a name,
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and then I do the esoteric stuff like the fringe
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in the second half. But back to Maren and Zinneman,
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Zinewin writes, it's not just that Maren's podcast is a
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superb oral history of the art form, or that his
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conversations can be insightful. I specially savor the discussions with
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less famous peers who share a history. The most important
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thing I learned from Maren's podcast is the art of interviewing.
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Maren has two unusual tactics for a celebrity interviewer, going
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on the attack and becoming widely introspective, often in the
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same conversation. He attacks by introducing a bone to pick
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to create conflict and seeing how his guest response. When
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I went on show in twenty seventeen, this is in
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him and he did this by taking issue with a
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column I wrote on Lenny Bruce. Not only did it
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force me to think aloud become more present, it also
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gave the conversation a shape, injecting dissension that may or
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may not be resolved. It's why Maren often ends his
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podcast with the phrase that is the title of a
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new documentary about him. Are we good? I am starting
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to stress. This is John speaking that Maren's podcast is ending.
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I have started filling my phone with back episodes. I
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worry that they'll disappear or go behind some sort of paywalls.
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I've just been scrolling some away. Jason writes. Maren is
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one of the few comics whose podcasting has made him
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a better stand up. I put the spin on the
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word better there, precisely because he's integrated this double focus
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looking at the outside world through himself into his specials.
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Unlike most podcasters, Maren refused to pivot to video. It's
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why when he announced his retirement, my first thought went
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to a book by another highly respected cerebral comedian, Fred
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Allen Titan of the Golden Age of Radio. Fred described
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how the move to television robed the essential part of
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the imaginative work of the listen he predicted it would
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ruin comedy. Unlike his rival Jack Benny Alan never made
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the transition and faded from memory. Jason points out, of course,
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the shift from radio to TV did not ruin comedy,
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but it doesn't mean that something precious wasn't lost, or
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that the new world is always better. Do you have
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any idea how innovative, talent rich, and brilliant radio comedy
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was in the thirties and forties? Probably not. I agree
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with him there now, I personally do not only that
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I program the comedy channels at times, I think I
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had two stints as the program director of Radio Classics
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on Serious Slash Serious XM, so I'm probably a little
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more educated than most in that subject. Continuing to pick
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away at Bill Burr's appearance on the Good One podcast.
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That was a very very interesting interview, but was getting
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a little feisty. Good One said, you appeared at the
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Conan O'Brien Mark Twain Price ceremony. Yes, I did. What
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was that experience like? Terrifying? Not given much there, Bill,
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You gotta have more than one word answers, dude. So
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Vulture followed it up in what way set of shadaway
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from doing those things because I think I find a
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lot of the chop busting I do staying in a
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protective place. So if I actually have to go out
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and say something nice about somebody, I get uncomfortable or
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emotional or something. But I knew it was something I
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was going to continue to be asked to do, and
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I jumped at the opportunity when they asked me, because
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I need to get better at it, said, I'll tell you, though,
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howd I know John mulaney was gonna open up and
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kill that hard? I would have turned down the gig.
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He's unbelievable in general, but how good is he at
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these things? I remember U sitting next to Sarah Silverman.
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She had to go on too. I'm like, what the f?
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They don't need us. I didn't need to be here.
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I started freaking out. Then Will Ferrell went on. It
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was like the twenty seven Yankee is a comedy and
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I'm that guy you don't remember from the team. It's
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one of my favorite things I ever did because I
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was so afraid to do it and it went well. Bill,
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do you think you'll ever receive the Mark Twain perrize.
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I'm not one of those guys, which guys A list? Guy,
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I don't want any stuff. I really don't you know
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what I really want when I walk down the street.
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When people from different walks of life go ay man,
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I appreciate what you're doing. Oh, I liked your special
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I like saying in the crowd, like when I go
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to sporting event, I want to get good seats, But
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the closer you get to it, the choir gets and
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less funny gets. I was always like mezzanine level. I
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don't want to be up there with binoculars and young
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people paraphrasing. But I like the mid we're the alcohol intake,
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the view, everything looks mid whatever, the second coloro seats,
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that's what I like. Chrissy from Q ninety seven point
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nine Radio told a great story about TJ Miller. Apparently
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TJ agreed to fly to Maine and accept Chrissy's beer
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pong challenge. Chrissy had tagged at TJ on social media
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to challenge him to beer pong. DJ went up and
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did it, told Chrissy, this is the coolest radio interview
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I've ever done. Thanks for being fun, and then said
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all right, let's go get another drink on a lobster
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roll I'm in Maine. We have to go eat lob
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rolls immediately. Chrissy says, there I am with TJ as
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manager in our lobster rolls before noon, when we continued
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the adventure of visiting every dive bar on the wharf,
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Portown Public House, three dollars, Duey's Commercial Street Pub and
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so many more. DJ said main as chill. It's a
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very viby state. Reminds me of Colorado, and Colorado's my
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favorite state. Like beat you so hard in pong dude,
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Grassie said, I'm never drinking again. Thanks for a great time. TJ.
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Nish Kumar spoke to Yahoo Canada about social media and comedy.
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Kumar is pro saying it has helped the comedy festival industry,
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saying I think the Internet is sort of supercharging these
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things rather than taking away from them. A British comedian
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of my standing twenty years ago wouldn't have been able
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to casually come to Canada and America and sell out
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tour shows that didn't exist. It's only because of the
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Internet and podcasting and task masters specifically. I think there's
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a lot of negatives it has for our industry and
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the art form more broadly, but from a perspective of
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getting people to come to shows and live comedy and festivals,
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I think it's actually really helped. He does say having
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the ability to see what every single person thinks of
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you can at points be paralyzing, and I've definitely gone
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in waves with it. I don't want to praise him ever,
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but the one thing I will say is Elon Musk
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buying Twitter has been really great for me because it
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means I've stopped using it. It's like a reverse Raiders
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of the Lost arc where he opened this box and
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Nazis went everywhere, and I think that made a lot
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of us examine our relationship with it. Is this all
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part of a long game for Elon Musk's attempt to
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improve all our mental health? No, definitely isn't. Billboard ask
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Sebastian Manaskalka how much longer he will tour the current tour,
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the eight Ain't Right tour. Sebastian said, the arena a
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phase of the tour is over. What's left is a
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lot of casinos between now and the end of the year,
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and then we'll put this to bed. It's been a
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great run. I think we did eighty six shows over
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the course of eight months. It was the best time
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ever had on a tour. I brought two of my
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good friends, Pat McGahn and Pete Corielli their headliners. In
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their own regard, I have my best friend John PETRELLI
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used my security come with us, and we've really enjoyed
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every city in the past, I do the show, sleep
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and go to the next venue. This time I enjoyed
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going out to different restaurants. Golfer, what have you? Jimmy
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Fallon giving Jay Lenos some cover. It looks like Jimmy
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Fallon is now the worst person in the world because
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he did not grill his guest Greg Guttfeld on Thursday
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nights at Tonight Show. They didn't get into politics. I
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don't think they got into the Gutfeld of it all.
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Greg came by and told a story about meeting Jimmy
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Fallon fifteen years ago in a quote illegal speakeasy in
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Hell's Kitchen. He explains, we were wasted inside. It looked
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like a place where Special Ops forces waterboard terrorists. Gutfeld said.
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Fallon and his buddy were wrestling before Jimmy ripped a
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cigarette out of his hand. And then he felt bad
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and bought him a new pack. Then they all went
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to another bar. Jimmy Fallon didn't seem to remember this
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and said it definitely happened. Gottfeld talked about how he
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got his current show, which he got because he used
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to host Redeye. As for Redeye, said everybody was drunk,
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even the cameraman at airs at two am, but they
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felt it was too edgy for two am, so they
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moved it to three am. As for Colbert, George Cheeks
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is the new boss over at Skydan, CBS, Paramount, whatever
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you guys are calling it, I don't care. Cheeks explained,
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the challenge in Late Night is that the advertising marketplace
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is in significant secular decline. We're huge fans of Colbert,
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we love the show. Unfortunately the economics made a challenge
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for us to keep going. Now, listen to this and
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I kind of got into this yesterday with Mike Chisholm
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as we talked about Late Night for over an hour.
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Mister Cheeks said, as soon as Taylor Tomlinson nicks the
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idea of continuing a host after midnight, it became clear
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the network couldn't stay in that day part. So this
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is I floated this theory before, and it looks like
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I'm right. Did Taylor Tomlinson accidentally get Colbert canceled? I
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think so. I'm not saying it's Taylor's fault. I'm not
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blaming Taylor, but I think that's what happened. Cheeks also
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commented about the timing, saying we were at a period
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from a production standpoint where every year, seasonally, this is
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when we negotiate new deals for writers and producers. In addition,
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this is going to be the third season of Colbert's
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three year deals, so in order to do these deals,
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we were gonna have to change the terms from what
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they traditionally are September to August to September to May.
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It was incumbent upon me to make it clear to
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Steven and his reps that's where we are. Gossip Connor
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whispers in the street, Gossip Conn, probably MAPI, gossip Conn
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away the Rumors meet with Johnny Mac. It's always a tree.
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Gossip Connor whispersiness Tree, Gossip Conn probably Gossip Cone where
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the rooms meet with Johnny Macs. All in the trees?
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Isn't that damn catchy? AI generated that? Isn't that pretty cool.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about this part. You'll be singing
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it later. May have to trim that a little bit.
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It's Sunday, It's fun. On gossip Corner, people are wondering
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did Tiffany Adish have a baby? Here's why she went
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on Insta shared a photo she was with her longtime
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friend Jason Lee and they held a baby, and the
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caption was cat's out of the bag. Hearts emoji. HM.
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Tiffany has not commented further. No one knows. Okay, Well,
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congrats if you were up in Jamestown, New York at
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the Lucille Ball Comedy Festival. James Austin Johnson is coming
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by today for Inside Saturday Night Live. He replaces Mikey Day,
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who was originally scheduled to appear. Mikey has a personal matter.
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Bo and Yang will be honored at the fifth Annual
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Academy Museum Fundraising Gala. Also being honored Bruce Springsteen and
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some other has been elop the Cruz. She gets the
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Icon Award, Bruce gets the Legacy Award. Bowen gets the
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Vantage Award, which honors artists who challenge dominant narratives in cinema. Yeah,
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he's known for challenging dominant narratives in cinema or is
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he known for like Las culturistas Okay. Deadlines spoke to
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some of jfl's new faces and ask them what it
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meant to make new faces. Chloe Radcliffe said, this has
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