Feb. 28, 2026

Pete Holmes Talks New Special ‘Silly Silly Fun Boy,’ Standup Craft, and Spirituality

Pete Holmes Talks New Special ‘Silly Silly Fun Boy,’ Standup Craft, and Spirituality
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Guest Pete Holmes discusses his new special “Silly Silly Fun Boy,” available via early access on 800 Pound Gorilla and later on YouTube Tuesday, March 24th.

They discuss Holmes’ success on “Pyramid,” including how seriously he takes the game, then segue into Google results featuring a “cannabis and tech today” image and Holmes’ decision to retire an older massage/dick-joke bit. Holmes explains how he structures and edits a special (cutting warmup, not moving closers), why swearing was heavier early due to the crowd’s energy, and that the special is cut from two shows in Portland. Conversation also covers hosting Montreal New Faces, standup as a living/jazz-like art, Holmes’ view of spirituality as experiential
awareness/consciousness, his comfort in his 40s, the early-2000s Chicago comedy scene, “Crashing” streaming, putting specials on YouTube, and his book title “Comedy Sex God.”

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Calorokashock Media.

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Hi there, I'm Johnny Mack and I'm high on life.

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I just hung up with Pete Holmes. He's got a

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new special. It's called Silly Silly fun Boy, available now

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via early access on eight hundred pound Gorilla. I grabbed

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it myself and watch it the other night. It is fantastic.

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If you don't want to do that, it'll be on

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YouTube Tuesday, March twenty fourth, but spend a couple bucks.

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Pete Home special. Silly Silly fun Boy is really good.

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I gotta tell you, I been doing this for a while.

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I always get nervous before interviews because you never know

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if you're gonna click or not. And boy, I felt

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like I could have talked to Pete Holmes for three hours.

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He was awesome. I just feel good about everything we

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talked about. Here a couple square words. You know, normally

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I keep the show pretty clean, but there are a

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couple words we don't normally use on the show. I'm

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sure you'll get over it. Let's jump in. Here's Pete Holmes.

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Got a couple random things to ask you about before

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we get to the special proper. I was watching the

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Scrubs reboot last night during the commercials, so I started

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playing on my phone. I'm on Reddit, I'm in the

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next effing level Reddit, and I put up this clip

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of you on Pyramid, just like absolutely murdering, crushing. Are

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you a Pyramid savant? Because you got cocky at the

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end and you were like, do you want me to

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slow down?

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I hate to correct you, but I remember it so vividly.

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I believe I said, do you want to take a break?

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It's a little bit embarrassing how proud I am of

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being good at Pyramid, just because I did no lie

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grow up watching that, and especially when comedians were on,

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like Billy Crystal obviously one of the goats, so when

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they started using me for that show, it was very meaningful.

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And then when you're playing with somebody, it's inevitably like

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a school teacher or somebody who's taking care of their

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parents or for real, like it's always something heartwarming. I

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take it so seriously. It's like the level of humorlessness

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is just Pyramid and like going to the airport, Like

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those are my two areas that I take it very,

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very seriously. So I get all jacked up on caffeine

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and dialed in and when we get in the Winter Circle,

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which I've done a couple of times, if they're good

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at it, as that person was, I'm just like, we're

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gonna we're gonna win. It's it's really you just have

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to have bad luck and get a category that is

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just kind of unknowable. There isn't that mind mild. But

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she was there and we synced up, and it was

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a thrill. It was like, none of that is Hollywood.

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When I'm putting my hands up and when I'm celebrating,

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it's one of the biggest thrills. I can't imagine. It's

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so fun. It's so fun.

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I've got about ten years in you I remember it

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was ten thousand dollars pyramid, which you know, if you

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didn't now you'd be like, gee, thanks guys, Yeah, exactly

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five fifty. And at one hundred thousand dollars pyramid for

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primetime that was was Dick Clark, right.

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I believe so. And that's always our joke is they

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win one hundred thousand dollars and they tell you what

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they'll do with one hundred thousand dollars, and we're always like,

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these people don't, well, they're not factoring in taxes from like,

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this is not on the sly. Everyone knows you just

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made a one hundred thousand dollars So all of your family members,

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Uncle Sam, it's gonna it's gonna get whittled down. You

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gotta be careful. It's like winning the lottery.

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I was shading Nates. He's got his new game show

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and you win sixty seven grand before taxes, and uh,

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you know he's looking at the BARGATSI yeah, it's the

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greatest average American. So the average American salary is sixty

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seven whatever, So he's giving that amount, so it works

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for the bit, but you know after taxes, et cetera.

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And I'm like, and then ABC runs one thirty, and

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you know they'd make it out on that show.

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I that I this is my first time hearing about it,

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and I take issue with that. You should do it household.

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Then you should be both parents are working, and you

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make one hundred and thirty or whatever it is. That's

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just sixty seven. That's that's no good for me, just

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because they're gonna walk with thirty, you know what I mean? Like,

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now that's not a game show.

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Comeline, all right, let me get your web team in

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trouble if you will, Pete Homes, this is really props

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to the people at Cannabis and Tech Today. The biggest

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picture of you if you google Pete Homes is they've

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got it stamped Cannabis and Tech Today. I guess you

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did an interview with them years ago, but that's the

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number one. Then it comes out. I love to face

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your throwing at.

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Me when you well, I have no memory of that.

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How appropriate, but I really don't remember doing that. And

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when you say biggest, do you mean the highest resolution?

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Yeah, so there's like a big square in a couple

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of smaller squares. I went to steal a picture of

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you from the Internet to post on my Facebook page.

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But the I'm Google image searching Pete Homes. Oh you

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get Cannabis in Tech Today. Pete Holmes says, cannabis users

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ask the best questions. That is, that's a reach right there.

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As you're looking at that. So the other thing, and

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just because I was listening to you, I think it

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was with Bert and you happen to mention on that

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episode that you're kind of done with the massage bit

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and they're surfacing the massage bit there as well.

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On cannabis in tech No, no, no on.

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The Google page. So if you as you search Pete homes, it's.

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Every day. Yeah, yeah, No, I'm proud to say that

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the time in my life where I Google myself is over.

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That is a part of your life as a comedian

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when you're beginning. This is so funny. I wonder why

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you know it's interesting. It's not what you asked, But

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the massage bit is done. I retired it just because

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I'm at a place in my career where, for lack

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of a better, can we swear on this show? But

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it's not really swear. But like Dick jokes, right, I

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like Dick jokes. I think they're very, very funny. I

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just having done you know, five or six specials now

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where the last joke usually has something to do with sex,

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I just kind of got it. I wouldn't say I

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got it out of my system, but I've moved on

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to other areas where I'm like, can I mind something here?

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Instead of just going like, yeah, we can get a cheeseburger.

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There's nothing wrong with a cheeseburger. That's that's what those

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kind of jokes are. But like having been to stay

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with the metaphor a chef for twenty plus years, I

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just rather cook something else, even though I know everybody

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loves a cheeseburger. So when I did that joke, So

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that clip, that YouTube clip is the first time and

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the only time I did that on stage maybe twice,

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and it really works. But what's great about YouTube is

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you can film it and you can throw it up

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and it's not like it was to waste and I

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don't have to do it seven hundred times on the

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road and feel sort of bored with the subject matter.

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I want to ask you about the art of putting

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together a special versus an hour. So again, just a

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reference bird.

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Again.

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He put this in my head about a year ago.

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I forget who he said it to, and was talking

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about how in modern times because the TV viewing audience has,

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you know, some sort of add TV add that comics

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are moving the closers up to the first third and

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even sequences being thing. So as I watched a couple

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specials this week, Kat Williams came out and did the

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old school, walked out to music, kind of settled it

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on the stage, grabbed the water bottle and then went

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into a set. Taylor does the the fake open, and hey,

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we're backstage, and what do you know? The cameras are

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rolling and now suddenly I'm on stage and I think

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she's into a chunk. So for you, what I wrote

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it down. You open with let's see if we can

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laugh at this? And I won't touch the material there,

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but your first words are let's see if we can

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laugh at this? So as we hit play on the special,

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we're midstream. Yeah, I if I had seen you on tour?

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Was that the opener?

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Is that?

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Later?

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I I draw the line at moving my closer up.

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I don't think that this is just me. I'm old

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in comedy in the sense that like the closer works

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because of what came before it. It's not just a

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great joke. Closers are closers. You shouldn't put a closer

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in the first five minutes of a special because it's

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the best joke. That's that's ridiculous. That's what they're kind

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of doing in action movies and stuff. Let's have the

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biggest set piece at the beginning. But again, I'm forty six.

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I will cheat that. I'll cut out what I'm doing

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to warm up an audience, and that is often bits

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about doing stand up. It's bits about like, oh it's

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seven o'clock, it's the early show. Oh I'm kind of

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this way, I'm blah blah blah. It seems like kind

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of handshake bits. I'll cut those out. And what we

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did on this special jump to what I would consider

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still the beginning, but we're warm, we've gotten the hello,

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how are you out of the way, because I actually

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think there's something even more honest about that, because sometimes

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the early bits do better because there's still the titillation

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of the show is starting. So like those opening ones

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will get a like a thirty percent boost. So we're

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cutting all that grab ass and all that sort of

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overjuiced part, which is the woo. Nobody needs to see that.

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We cut that out. I like that trend, but that

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on my set list was probably like, you know, the

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third thing I talked about, which is I think it's

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Q tips or Mormon face or whatever it is, But

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like I like, I like what we're doing with specials,

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which is like, let's get to it because stand up

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isn't compromised by that, It doesn't doesn't hurt the art

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to just kind of throw you in. You can't do

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that live. I have gone out and just been like, hey,

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can the people that make you take your shoes off

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before you come to their house just fucking cut it out.

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Nobody wants that. I mean, like you can't you kind

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of do. But for me, I would much rather the

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comedian be there, be in the room, be in the city,

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address what's going on before, just kind of like going

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into and doing the album, as we say, but when

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it's the album, just do the album now.

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That makes sense. I had the fortune I got to

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know Jerry Hamseley was George Carlin's manager, and he explained

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to me how Carlin would put together a set and

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that George would open up with the ratitat tat you

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ever noticed that, and then go into the long sweeping

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that he would warm up the audience, but then he

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had to let them breathe and go into the big

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statement of this particular hour that George was doing, and

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then finish up with the rat of tat tat. So

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I always look at this stuff analytically.

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It's right on and everybody can relate to this like

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you have a date. The beginning is when the nerves

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are high. Everybody's kind of like just sniffing each other's butts,

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you know what I mean? Like do that? Don't skip that?

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Like is a good date? Where like they just go like,

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so tell me your biggest fear? Like, that's not that's

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like a douchebags idea of a good date. You warm

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up to that. But then if I'm going to cut

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a movie and I want to give you the best

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part of the date, I might cut into so what's

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your biggest fear? Like, because that's a weird thing to

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say on a date.

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As the delivery system has evolved, I suspect I know

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the answer to this one. In your case the specials

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on the eight hundred pound Gorilla, it will eventually be

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on YouTube. Is there any thought into pacing for YouTube

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that let me do eleven minutes here and then take

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a breath so they can throw in the commercial break

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I just assume whoever's doing that is doing an awful job,

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and it's terrible. I've never I've never been like, I

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can't think about things like that. I hope this is

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literally the first time I've thought about that. My first

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special is on Comedy Central, and you did think you

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had some say you were like, and this will be

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where the commercial goes. You call it an act break.

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This is where the act break is. With this and

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with all YouTube, I'm just sort of like, God, I

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hope they have the sense to not put that little

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fifteen second go daddy ad in the middle of a bit,

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But I don't know. I can't control that. True, nobody

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asked me to control that. If they did, I would,

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I would chime in, But like it's an online streaming service,

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I'm at their mercy on that one.

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Sure, I felt like you were using more swear words

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early in this special that I'm accustomed to. Is that

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a conscious choice or am I imagining that? Then once

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we settled in and you were surfing the room, I

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felt they were less swears. But it just as I

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watched it, I was like, oh, interesting, I'm not offended.

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watch it, I noticed that. And what's interesting about filming

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a special is you're watching I'll go back to the

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date metaphor, like you're watching a date right, You're seeing

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this exchange of energy and different dates, different crowds respond differently.

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All I'm doing, and I'll use any color in my toolkit,

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is I'm trying to get them to laugh as hard

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as possible. I really want, I want to be understood,

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I want to be seen. That's in the mix, to

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just want to delight them and that crowd. I think

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the majority of the special was the late crowd. That's

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not entirely true, but the majority is the late crowd

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on a Friday night at the Aladdin in Portland. It

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might have been a Saturday, but I think it was

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a Friday. So I remember we were starting and like

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there were seats empty, and my opener, my friend Matt McCarthy,

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is doing a set, and I'm noticing people are rushing in,

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like there's stress in the room, like it's fucking Friday,

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it's late. We had to find parking, it was hard

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to get here. I'm feeling that energy. So when you're

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very right, when you're looking at an ingredient like swearing,

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I would include the volume and the pitch of my voice,

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like how am I delivering these jokes? It was that night.

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It was that crowd needed. That was my interpretation needed.

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That play called I'm mixing all my metaphors, but that

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was the play. It's not because this material needs it.

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It's not because that's how it was every time I

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did it. It's because that night I felt you need like, hey,

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and for some reason we're starting the game. We kind

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of feel like we're down a little bit, like I

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can feel your Friday stress a little bit. That's a

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completely different play than that you would call on a

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Saturday at seven or nine o'clock. This felt, you know,

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every special I've ever done the first show, I go, well,

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that wasn't it, And then I'm going in hungry for

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the second hour. We end up always using a lot

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of the first hour, but I inevitably think it's worthless

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the second one. I'm going in and the vibe the

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room is big, the energy was whatever. I mean, there

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were a great crowd, but there was a little chunk

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in the water. And the swearing is a and the

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and the way that I'm saying it delivering it, there's

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there's more oration going on. All of that is addressing

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a certain crackle in the room that I'm like, if

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I don't harness this and claim it. Here's another metaphor.

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Like a pilot going on the PA, there's a little turbulence,

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you have to get on and you speak in a

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different way. When there's turbulence, you're more calm, you know

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what I mean, You're more authoritative. So yeah, I bet

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I could play you the other three hundred times I've

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done that hour and I might not have said, like

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do the Q tip. People know what the fuck we're doing,

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But like I, I'm a scrapper, I Am not going to

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do badly on my special. You're coming with me on

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this joke? Would I prefer to be super laid back because,

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like you said, after I slap them around a little,

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my hands in my pocket, I come down. I bet

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you could look at my data, but my heart rate

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is lower. We're all eased in. But guess what, everybody sat.

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Everybody snapped in. Here's another metaphor. I'm like a substitute

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teacher that those first couple minutes, that's when they're deciding

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does this person have our respect? So that's why the

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beginning of that set I'm so with you has more

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fervor to it, and one of the symptoms of fervor.

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Is me saying fuck more because I'm like, this is happening.

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We got to do this. I need you to come

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with me. And then once they're with me, watch you know,

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once we get to the Mexico scorpion story, it's like, oh,

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it's almost a different flavor.

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once you settled in this wearing kind of went away.

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Now I come out of talk radio, so everything you're

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saying makes sense to me. I always teach my producers.

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We make a rundown, we make a script, but it's

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not a blood oath. You gotta feel the room. You

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gotta feel what's happening with the show.

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That's what I is infinitely fascinating about stand up. And

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I know we have too many podcasts with comedians talking

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about what's beautiful about stand up, But I've always envied

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golf and racketball, these games you can play your whole life,

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you know what I mean, and stand up talking about

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Carlin imagine being something so compelling as to keep in mind,

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like George Carlin's engaged until he died. And that's why

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it's like it's never the same. It's not an album.

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In a musical sense. It's way more like jazz. It's

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way more like a conversation. And that recording was that night,

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that mood, that dinner, that night's rest. It's a living thing.

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Like remember in Sideways, They're like, you open a bottle

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of wine, it tastes different than if you had opened

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it on any other day. That to me is stand up.

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I'm all over with the metaphors. But I think you

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understand what I'm saying.

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Sure, can I ask the magician? Are we looking at

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one show or two cut together? I think it is, Yeah, it's.

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Two in fact, same night, two shows Mexico. I think

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is the first time we cut to the first show

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because that gopher broke tone isn't always what you want,

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and you're like, let's bring it down, and it's always

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nice to have that that variance. So it's happened with

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this special and I'm not for everyone. Every single one

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of them is two, and every single one of them,

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I said, except for Nice Try the Devil, I believe

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that was one, But every single one of them. I

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said after the show that that was garbage. We couldn't

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use a second of that. And then it ends up

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being about thirty forty percent of the special, which is

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another reason why it's endlessly compelling. You don't know you

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have to be humble enough to be like or or

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feel paid. You don't have to be humble. I find

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one way to avoid the suffering of the process is

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to just go, yeah, I'm wrong all the time, I

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don't know what I'm talking about, and listen to great

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directors like Ricky and my wife who helped edit it

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this special as well.

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You mentioned podcasts. You're one of the ogs. You might

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be the og now that Maren gave up. Hey, should

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we tell maarn he retired five minutes too early? There

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was Netflix money that was about three weeks away.

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Bro Oh no, right, Ah. I just saw Mark. I

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was crossing the street in La and I saw him

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and it was he. I think he plays up how

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much he doesn't like me question Mark. But he's certainly

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like a big brother, like annoyed by my Golden Retriever

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energy kind of guy. And that's fine. I wouldn't change

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it for the world. But I again, this is me

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for the first time, considering that maybe Marin could have

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been acquired but his wasn't.

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Video Yeah, and I guess who knows.

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Who knows.

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I won't put you on the spot here. I could

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see you on a streaming service and I would absolutely

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watch that.

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I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, we'd do it.

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I've got you a couple of times. I definitely maybe

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five years ago you opened up Sorry, you hosted New

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Faces up at Montreal and I'm trying to remember did

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you do one of the shows? I know John Marco

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did one of them this year, and I'm like, did

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I see Pete this summer? And I'm just getting old

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and I can't remember or not, but you definitely did

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it in the past.

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I'm trying to remember too, I didn't do it. I

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think there was one I didn't do because I did

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it two years in a row. And I do to

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answer the question I think you were about to ask,

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I do enjoy I sound old, but being with the

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young people, I think it's really fun to do what

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no one in particular did when I did Montreal. And

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by the way, it turns out a lot of the

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kids don't even need this, So it's more about me

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feeling like I'm doing something because I noticed that so

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many of them are way cooler than I ever was.

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But The fantasy was do new faces, just to say

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guys like, we've all been here, please please just have

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fun and I'm here if you want to talk, and

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some people did. Some people did, but I really just

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wanted to be like, fuck this, they have a festival.

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You guys are the real thing. Own it. Own it,

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You're why they have the festival, Like you're the thing.

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Don't let them think they're the thing. I'm grateful for Montreal,

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but it's not the thing. It's container. The thing is

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the comedy. That's the thing. So I just wanted to,

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in an appropriate way, blow some wind in their cells

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and be like, just go do it. This is a

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victory laugh. Auditioning is when you should be nervous, go

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out and just fucking be yourself, all that classic stuff.

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I didn't do a big speech. I just wanted to

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say like, if anybody wants to talk, and like these

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kids were amazing. I didn't get the sense that they

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needed that speech. But then the other thing I wanted

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to do was just have the tone as the host

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way more than anything I would say in the green room,

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just have the tone of like fuck you laugh, like

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you have to laugh, stop taking notes. This is their dream,

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like give it up, don't? Oh is that good? Shut

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the fuck up? This is the kid's future. Give And

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I think that helped I could be pretty as a

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warm up comedian. I think I can be pretty insistent

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in a helpful way because I'm just like sweating, yelling

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at them, and then comedians who are amazing come out

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and clean up. That's a nice you know what I mean.

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I'm not going out trying to crush, trying to set

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a nice tone for the whole show.

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I've talked to other new Faces hosts about that.

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You.

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I was explaining my my son came with me one

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year and this was the one like twenty twenty two

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in the nice theater, the one with a balcony, and

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I said, I said, Pete's throwing at about eighty six here.

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I'm like, he's got more. But if he comes out

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and he does his a material and passes it off

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to a new bee, that's a little unfair. So I'm like,

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he's just soft tossing it in there.

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It's still that's all you do. Very funny. Yeah, it's

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more about when I every almost everything I've done, like

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when I did my talk show, I went out first

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and did my own warm up, and I just said, like, guys,

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no pressure, but this is my dream, you know what

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I mean. Like we're filming a pilot to maybe have

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a talk show, and I'm not trying to freak anybody out,

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but I'm you know, hey, this is real, this really matters,

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and please give it up, Please please be generous, and

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please have fun. And I had them chant let's not

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fuck this up. Let's not fuck this up. And that

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honesty and that icebreaker really made a difference. I was

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trying to do that for those guys, and then look

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who it was. Now. The people I'm talking about are

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Shane Gillis, Jean Marco, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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it's an incredible group. So yeah, they didn't they didn't

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00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:32.079
need it, it turns out.

462
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:35.279
More coming up with Pete Holmes. His special Silly Silly

463
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:38.119
fun Boy, available now via early access on the eight

464
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:40.920
hundred Pound Gorilla and it'll be on YouTube Tuesday, March

465
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:45.720
twenty fourth. Pete Holmes is on tour right now. He'll

466
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.000
be in LA on March seventh, and you get to

467
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.759
ask him about the tour because we went so long.

468
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:51.839
I asked for twenty minutes and I kept him for

469
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:53.720
forty so I didn't get to ask him about the tour.

470
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.440
It's just curious he's doing like two dates than taking

471
00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:02.759
a break, than doing some others. But let's see Royal Oaks, Michigan, Tallass, Irving, Texas, Madison, Wisconsin, Denver, During,

472
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:07.920
North Carolina, Charleston, Vancouver, Hey, Vancouver, October, Mike Chisholm, you're

473
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.799
listening Seattle and then Portland, Oregon. Now interesting to me.

474
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.480
He taped this special in Portland. He has taped a

475
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:16.680
previous special in Portland. I didn't get ask him about

476
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.640
that either. I wonder if he's going to wrap up

477
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:23.480
the Pete Here Now tour by recording another special. Time

478
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.079
will tell. But let's get back to Pete Holmes. As

479
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.880
I watched this special and listen to you with Taylor,

480
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.440
I couldn't quite get a feel for where you are

481
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:35.880
on spirituality or religion these days. You know, I don't

482
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:37.880
want to go deep here, but just at a top level,

483
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.880
are you? Is there a higher power?

484
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.680
Or where are you these days? I? You know, I

485
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.720
love that question. I'll starve by thinking. It's really hard

486
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:51.559
to talk about these things without while maintaining some sort

487
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.440
of felt experience of it, So I'm going to try

488
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:55.680
and do that. Usually you start getting in your head

489
00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.240
and all that feeling of connection or whatever goes away.

490
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:01.799
So I'm going to try and keep one foot in

491
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:09.079
each pool. The way that I would phrase it is

492
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:13.160
is what science calls consciousness is what I would call God,

493
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.400
meaning we're talking about the same mystery. So it's awareness.

494
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:22.119
But the difference with awareness as opposed to like thinking, oh,

495
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.960
I believe in God or I don't believe in God?

496
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:29.000
Is you right now? John, You're having the experience of awareness,

497
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.440
like you are present and you are aware. So that's

498
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.039
what makes it different from like reading a book like

499
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:40.160
the Bible all respect. I'm just saying reading someone else's experience.

500
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:44.200
It could be an Indian sage and reading about their experience.

501
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:50.160
What's interesting, infinitely interesting about awareness is you're having that

502
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:53.799
experience right now. So we're moving outside of the realm

503
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:57.440
of belief and we're moving into what mysticism is. Mysticism

504
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:03.799
is experiential spirituality. So you're going, Okay, I am present,

505
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.400
I am aware. Meditation or self inquiry is going in

506
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:13.200
and asking yourself what are the qualities of that awareness.

507
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:17.079
It seems like Pete's personality. Like, let's say my thoughts,

508
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:22.400
my thoughts emerge and they recede in what do they

509
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.839
emerge and into what do they recede? We could call

510
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.640
this consciousness. This is almost you seem interested, by the

511
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.440
way I'm just saying for the listeners, this is almost over.

512
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.799
We're looking at that which doesn't change. Your thoughts change,

513
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:39.839
your body changes, your feelings change. We might think of

514
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.640
awareness like a blue sky and everything else's weather. So

515
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:46.799
it's not just oh, I know what the meaning of

516
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:51.720
life is. That's sort of meaningless. What's meaningful is going, oh,

517
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:54.200
I'm not who I think I am. I am the

518
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:57.839
awareness in which everything that I call Pete and everything

519
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:01.640
that I call the world emerges. Now, what are the

520
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:05.599
qualities of that awareness? Well, it's very peaceful, it's spacious,

521
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.880
it's empty, it's quiet. You could also say it's full

522
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:14.000
of itself. It's fresh, it's alive, it's present. These are

523
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.960
all the attributes human beings would like. And the good

524
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.279
news is why they call it good news, is that's

525
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:23.119
what you are. You've just sort of forgotten yourself. Like

526
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.559
when you're looking at a movie, you think you're looking

527
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:28.119
at a landscape. You're actually looking at the screen in

528
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.279
the same way you think you're talking to me. What

529
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:34.000
you're actually knowing is knowing, and the qualities of that

530
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:38.519
knowing is fresh, alive, peaceful, no matter what's going on

531
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.599
in your life. That's what in the Bible they call

532
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:46.279
the piece that passes understanding. That's something greater than oh

533
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:49.160
I have this teacher, or I have this tradition. I'm

534
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.400
talking about something that you can tap into an experience

535
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.720
on a normal day like today, when you're dying, when

536
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.759
the chips are up, when the chips are down. Spirituality

537
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:02.559
is the exploration of that which does not change. And

538
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.880
I would call that your awareness. That's where I'm at

539
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:05.279
right now.

540
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.759
So we can do that on our own, unorganized. We

541
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.440
don't need a physical building.

542
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.279
Absolutely not. I like churches. I think they're very cool.

543
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:16.640
If you look at them. A lot of them are

544
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:22.240
very trippy. So churches can be very evocative places. Reading

545
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:25.920
books can be very evocative. Teachers can be very evocative.

546
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.359
But what are they evoking. They're evoking an experience that's

547
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.839
so familiar to you and I that we've overlooked at

548
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.880
and why should we recognize it? Because its qualities are

549
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.920
the qualities happiness. You might call it peace, you might

550
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.519
call it because it's what you really are, and that's

551
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:46.599
what people that are meditating are doing. But it is

552
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:50.200
sort of snuggling with your true self. But when it

553
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:53.799
starts bleeding into your life, you recognize that we're all,

554
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:58.799
to use a very overused metaphor, we're all waves in

555
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:01.680
the same ocean. So if I'm a wave and you're

556
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:03.799
a wave, I'm not going to be mean to you.

557
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.240
I'm not going to be cruel to you. I'm going

558
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.400
to be I'm going to love you. I'm going to

559
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.720
be concerned for you to I'm going to recognize our

560
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.279
shared being. That's what love is. It's not just I

561
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:18.000
like Johnny, he asked good questions. It's actually recognizing that

562
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.200
what I fundamentally am and what you fundamentally are is

563
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:26.039
the same awareness. Because there can only be one infinite, boundless,

564
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.000
boundaryless space, so we're sharing that in the same way

565
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.839
that Mario and Mario Brothers is made out of pixels,

566
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.200
and so are the clouds, and so are the blocks,

567
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.920
and so are the piranhas, and so is bowser. Mario

568
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.519
recognizes that whatever his essential nature is must be the

569
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.119
essential nature of the whole game, which it is, which

570
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:45.839
ends up at the end of the day being the

571
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.079
mind of the programmer. Let's do some ketamine.

572
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:54.079
I picked up somewhere in one of the things I

573
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.480
listened to in the past week getting ready for this.

574
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.359
Like many of us, you hit your forty and you

575
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.519
just kind of hit that spot of this is who

576
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.079
I am. I hope people like it. If you don't,

577
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.400
I don't care. And you just seem very comfortable and

578
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:10.880
understanding of who Pete Holmes is in twenty twenty six.

579
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.160
Oh yeah, I didn't know you were saying that about me.

580
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:16.400
Yeah I was. I'm right there with you the forties.

581
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.079
There's a great surrender to it. I think you know

582
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.319
we can try. Obviously, I'm still interested in growth. I

583
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.720
still go to therapy, I still accept feedback from friends

584
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:32.200
I need to. I'm always making an ass of myself.

585
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:38.200
But the great gift of your fourth decade is like,

586
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.519
I think I kind of know at least what my

587
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:46.119
patterns are, and I go, oh, there, I am overreacting here.

588
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.359
There I am, like I said, jackass, Like I'm a

589
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.400
jackass all the time, Like stand up stand up is

590
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:56.480
being a jackass at an allotted time, you know. So

591
00:32:57.559 --> 00:32:59.759
I've seen the pattern, I've seen the strings at the

592
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.000
pot A show, and that makes me take it a

593
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:06.400
little less personally while still being interested in improving whatever

594
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:07.079
that means.

595
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:09.359
I'll head for home. I want to be respectful of

596
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:11.759
your time. But for the listeners, can you talk about

597
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.400
that awesome Chicago comedy series at the turn of the century.

598
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:16.880
I think we're far enough now, and then I can

599
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:18.000
say the turn of the century.

600
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.400
Wow, I mean they were just in the century.

601
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.000
There were killers, and you were one of them.

602
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:29.440
I know. I sometimes am stupefied at you know. I

603
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.920
don't want to Please don't take this as me puffing

604
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:36.079
myself up. I just noticed that there are certain trends.

605
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:41.400
Bill Gates was seventeen when computers became available, so you

606
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.559
remember that phenomenon. So he was young enough to be

607
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:49.920
porous just when computers were becoming available in schools. Obviously,

608
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.960
I'm not saying i'm Bill Gates or at that level.

609
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.319
I'm just saying there's something about time and place, and

610
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.160
when you look back in your forties, you go, oh

611
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.400
my god, I'm the pro of a time and a place,

612
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.240
and that time in that place was Chicago in two

613
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.279
thousand and one, two thousand and two thousand and one,

614
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:13.519
and what's crazy, John Is? I swear I had a

615
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.519
sense of it at the time. I said to people,

616
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.599
they're going to write books about this, Like I'm a

617
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.639
kind of a mania kind of person, so that's not

618
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.880
entirely out of character for me. But there was a sense.

619
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.559
And Kumil was there when I said that, and he

620
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.760
didn't disagree with me. There was a feeling of like,

621
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.119
you know what it was. It was like bad news bears.

622
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.760
We weren't, you know, like nobody cared about Chicago in

623
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.480
a sense. It was the improv city, but here for

624
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.960
some reason, the open mic scene was really alive. And

625
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.440
Hannibal and Cumale and John Roy, Matt Bronger, I always

626
00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:00.480
forget people, but like Matt Bridenstein, just really really good

627
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.239
comics all coming together at this one open mic in

628
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:09.639
two thousand and one. And it gets even weirder for

629
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.880
me is I was resisting stand up because stand up

630
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:17.760
is rather scary. I had done it maybe five six times.

631
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.400
Then I moved to Chicago to do improv because I

632
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.519
wanted to be with a group. I thought that was

633
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.880
and it is in a sense more fun. You know,

634
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.840
you kind of have five people to either lick your

635
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:33.280
wounds afterwards or celebrate with. It's more communal. I started

636
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.800
getting frustrated with that because I realized I noticed that

637
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.039
I was way more committed and driven, Like I knew

638
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:40.800
I wanted to do it for my job, so I

639
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.519
wanted to rehearse more. I wanted to do more shows.

640
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.920
I was insatiable. So then I started getting curious about

641
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.039
doing stand up again. I'd only taken a couple months off.

642
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:54.800
It wasn't like I retired, but I every day it

643
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.440
was the Irving Park brown Line in Chicago. I would

644
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.760
go to work at Bennegan's restaurant downtown and I would

645
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:05.280
take the Irving Park brown Line. So I'd walk fifteen

646
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.199
minutes to that train stop and I would pass the Lions. Then,

647
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.320
which was the open mic, and it just said Monday comedy.

648
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:15.719
It didn't even say stand up comedy. You didn't see

649
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.760
open mic. It just said Monday comedy. And I was

650
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:22.400
still so, you know, like every hero's journey, you're supposed

651
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.960
to resist the call. Like I'm feeling called to do

652
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.039
stand up, but I'm resisting it. I'm a little afraid

653
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.920
of it. It's a lot, you know, these smoke filled

654
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.440
nightclubs and people talking about their balls, and I didn't

655
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:36.840
know if I could fit in there, very much like

656
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.880
the show Crashing, Like I really was that version of myself,

657
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.719
a little doe eyed, kind of sweet, didn't know what

658
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.159
if I could do it. Talking about Nate Bargatsi, he

659
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.840
and I had a similar experience in that way. You

660
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:50.960
walk into these clubs and everybody's talking about the g

661
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.519
spot and you're just kind of like, golly, like, what

662
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.920
am I doing here? My closer's about RoboCop, you know.

663
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:04.000
But I had to walk by the Lions then every Monday,

664
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.119
and one Monday, I remember it wasn't even a Monday.

665
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.199
One day, I just walked in and looked at the

666
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.559
stage like talk about putting a toe in, and then

667
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.800
I left. And then one Monday I went and I watched,

668
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.719
which to this day is still my advice to people

669
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.199
who are thinking about doing comedy. I'm like, just go

670
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:26.039
to an open mic and watch. Don't sign up, what

671
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:29.360
are you insane? Don't sign up the first time you

672
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.400
go to an open mic, Just go and watch. Like

673
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:34.599
it's masochistic to go. I'm gonna go to this crazy thing.

674
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.679
I don't know what it is, and I'm gonna do it. No,

675
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.159
go and watch, don't sign up. That's what I did,

676
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.079
and I met Robert Ruscemi that night. The next night

677
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.280
I did Covey Bear, which was another open mic. I

678
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.280
met Kunail He and I became really close, really fast,

679
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.599
and then I signed up and did it, and you

680
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.440
just see it's not It's like driving in Manhattan. You

681
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.199
think the people that drive in Manhattan have to be

682
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.719
special people. They're not. They're just people who took the

683
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.119
wrong exit off the FDR. They're just They're just like you.

684
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.639
And the people at the open mic are also just people.

685
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.800
They're just people. They're just trying. They don't know. So

686
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.559
you're in good company, don't be afraid. So then you know,

687
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.280
as that scene got better and better, it just it

688
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.840
just blew up. There are so many great comics that

689
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:29.880
had such a huge influence on all of us, and

690
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:33.719
you know, I don't want to say the rest is history,

691
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:37.519
but like it really kind of baked a certain generation

692
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.159
that I will always feel a kinship towards.

693
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.199
Yeah, all Stars, you mentioned crashing and I was checking

694
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.320
before we jumped on here to see where it's streaming,

695
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and it's pretty much streaming everywhere except Netflix. So here's

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my prediction. At some point that show is going to

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land on Netflix and it's you know, we see this

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with shows like Suits was the big one. This thing

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that's been a you could have watched it on some

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other streaming service like mad Men now right, so everybody

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was watching mad Mental stuff. But I feel like at

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some point, if Crashing gets on Netflix, people are gonna

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be like, oh my god with this. I had a

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college student today just in my class I teach, and

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I was telling them what I was doing later today

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and she knew about Crashing. I'm like, oh, good, this

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thing has legs because that was a fantastic.

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I look, I would love that. Obviously it happened. I

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don't know talk about my forties. It's not that I'd

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given up on those things. There was a time when

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I was a little itchier and I was like, why

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can't we get that on whatever? I'm happy it's on HBO.

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I had that more for some of my specials, some

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of my Comedy Central specials. I was like, if we

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could just get those acquired by Netflix, more people would

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see them. I always just got the run around. People

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were like, they don't really do that, and I was like,

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what about Millennia. They did it with Millennia and they're like,

719
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well it's mullany and I'm like, this is a weird

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phone call, Like I hate this phone call. So I stopped.

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I stopped kind of sniffing around in that way. But

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then something interesting happened was we're just doing Silly Silly

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fun Boy on YouTube, and then my special that was

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on Netflix because Netflix now leases special so they'll do

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it for three or four years. I don't know, so

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I Am Not for Everyone, which was my Netflix special,

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became mine again. So after I don't know when we're

728
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doing it, but in like a month or so, we're

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going to put I Am Not for Everyone on YouTube

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as well, so when you watch Silly Silly fun Boy,

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it'll say, hey, there's also this. I saw that happen

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with Nice Try the Devil, so Comedy Central put my

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full hour on YouTube. I don't know how it's doing it.

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Like I said, I stopped googling myself, but more people

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tend to see these things, and at the end of

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the day, anything that gets something I've done in front

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of people that would like to see it. That makes me,

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That makes me happy. Yeah.

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Final question, could you tell me how you say the

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title of your book? And the reason I'm asking is

741
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there are no commas and there are three different fonts.

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And I read it one way and I go, that

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doesn't sound like Pete and then I read it the

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other way. But there are no commas. So how do

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you say the title of that book?

746
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I say, comedy sex god. Okay, I put I.

747
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Put in You're not a comedy sex god.

748
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No, I wouldn't. I don't do a lot of regrets.

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I I did consider after we published it, calling it

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comedy and sex and god. You know those T shirts

751
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you see that say like Bono and Bruno and you know,

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like their favorites. I said, Bono, I'm old. But that

753
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could have been the style doing it again, Like you know,

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I tinker with another book from time to time. I

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would do a title that might be a little bit

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more clearer. That being said, my editor Luke Dempsey really

757
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loved the title. He loved the people would be like, what,

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like wanted the to use the word itchy again, the

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itch that picking up the book would solve. It's like,

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what does he mean, oh, it's about these three topics.

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It's about comedy, it's about sex, it's about God. But

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he really he was British, so he got a real

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kick out of the cheekiness of comedy, sex God.

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Pete Holmes, thank you for your time, my.

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Sincere pleasure, John. I really I enjoyed every moment. Thank

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you for having me. Boy.

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I love him. Pete Holmes. His special Silly Silly fun Boy,

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available now via early access on the eight hundred Pound Gorilla.

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Why don't just support Pete because he was really awesome.

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I hope you enjoyed that as much as I do.

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Back in the morning with a normal episode. Pete Holmes,

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thank you.

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Go Asian, African American types of people, races, mermaids, sunken ships,

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things under an aquarium, things in the sea, things in

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the ocean.

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I'm what you used to point at.

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People on your hand.

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You might say what a fingerprit said, the.

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Obituaries, parts of the newspaper, the ocean, the sky.

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Things that are blue. You want to take the time,

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little break Ramen, things he might be eat in a bowl.

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Let's get this don